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Post by boogaloo » Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:05 pm

And still the stupid deniers bleat:

The satellite measurements from the National Snow and Ice Center in Boulder, Colorado showed an increase in the extent of minimum sea ice this summer to two million square miles (5.1 million square km).

This is an increase of 224,000 square miles (580,000 square km) on last year and a 375,000 square miles increase (970,000 square km) on 2007 which was the lowest on record.

However this is still the third lowest recording on record and environmentalists fear the Arctic could be ice free by 2030 because of global warming.

Research scientist Walt Meier said the latest recording was well below the long term average. The lowest ten recordings since records began in 1979 have all been within the last 11 years.

"It is likely to be the lowest levels for thousands of years," added Mr Meier.

Scientists had feared that the summer sea ice would melt completely by 2013, however the fact that it has grown in the last couple of years suggest it may last for another 30 years.

Mr Meier said the recent growth in ice should not be used to deny global warming as the ice is getting thinner and so it will melt more quickly when a hot summer does come.

"I would not call this a recovery because the ice is very young and thin and if we get a warm summer next year we will be back to 2007 levels or even below."

Melanie Duchin, a campaigner on board the Greenpeace ship Arctic Sunrise, that has been monitoring the sea ice, said the latest figures are a "wake up call" for world leaders meeting in Copenhagen at the end of the year to decide a new deal on climate change.

“Another year of record sea ice melt here in the Arctic is a deafening alarm about the state of the world’s climate," she said. “Heads of state must heed this alarm and they must up with an agreement that is fair, ambitious and binding at the forthcoming climate summit."

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:25 pm

This is an increase of 224,000 square miles (580,000 square km) on last year and a 375,000 square miles increase (970,000 square km) on 2007


You dope.

Even when you post the facts yourself you still cannot see them.

And as for this, you silly little creature:

environmentalists fear the Arctic could be ice free by 2030 because of global warming.


Only someone utterly ignorant, or a deep religious believer could post something so absurd.

I have a feeling you are both imbecilic and a hand-wringing apostle for this religion for urban first world elites, as well as having the character defects (unthinking respect for authority, explosive anger at dissent) that you have already identified for us.

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Post by Son Of Spooner » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:21 am

The BBC is at it again, this story was third in the running order on their flagship radio news show Today this morning:

Arctic to be 'ice-free in summer'

The Arctic Ocean could be largely ice-free and open to shipping during the summer in as little as ten years' time, a top polar specialist has said.
"It's like man is taking the lid off the northern part of the planet," said Professor Peter Wadhams, from the University of Cambridge.

Professor Wadhams has been studying the Arctic ice since the 1960s.
He was speaking in central London at the launch of the findings of the Catlin Arctic Survey.
The expedition trekked across 435km of ice earlier this year.

Led by explorer Pen Hadow, the team's measurements found that the ice-floes were on average 1.8m thick - typical of so-called "first year" ice formed during the past winter and most vulnerable to melting.


But in the longer-term, losing a permanent feature of the planet risked accelerated warming, changing patterns of circulation in the oceans and atmosphere, and having unknown effects on ecosystems through the acidification of waters.

Pen Hadow and his companions Ann Daniels and Martin Hartley endured ferocious weather - including a wind chill of minus 70 - delayed resupply flights and starvation rations during the expedition from 1 March to 7 May.

When I met them on the ice, as part of a BBC team that joined the pick-up flight, all three had lost weight and were evidently tired from the ordeal.

The expedition had been blighted by equipment failures. A pioneering radar system, designed to measure the ice while being dragged over the ice, broke down within days. Another device to measure the water beneath the ice never functioned at all.

The technical breakdowns forced the team to rely on hand-drilling through the ice which slowed progress and meant the team's planned destination of the North Pole had to be abandoned.
Pen Hadow admitted that the expedition had not led to "a giant leap forward in understanding" but had been useful as an incremental step in the science of answering the key questions about the Arctic.

The survey route - to the north of Canada - had been expected to cross areas of older "multi-year" ice which is thicker and more resilient.
When the ridges of ice between floes are included, the expedition found an average thickness of 4.8m.

Professor Wadhams said: "The Catlin Arctic Survey data supports the new consensus view - based on seasonal variation of ice extent and thickness, changes in temperatures, winds and especially ice composition - that the Arctic will be ice-free in summer within about 20 years, and that much of the decrease will be happening within 10 years.
"That means you'll be able to treat the Arctic as if it were essentially an open sea in the summer and have transport across the Arctic Ocean."

According to Professor Wadhams, faster shipping and easier access to oil and gas reserves were among short-term benefits of the melting.
His view was backed by Professor Wadhams who said the expedition had provided information about the ice that was not available from satellites and that no submarines had been available to science at that time either.

Pen Hadow said he was shocked by the image of how "in my lifetime we're looking at changing how the planet looks from space."
He also described how polar explorers were having to change their methods from the days when sledges could be pulled by dogs over the ice.

"Dogs can swim but they can't tow a sledge through water which is what's needed now."

"Now we have to wear immersion suits and swim and we need sledges that can float. I can foresee needing sledges that are more like canoes that you also pull over the ice."


Only 10 years? That's a wild prediction.

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:33 am

Pen Hadow


People interested in this subject will remember the idiot Hadow from this when he led a half-starved expedition into terrible danger because he thought it would be warmer in the Arctic than it is. Further, he was then caught faking data from the expedition - but if this stuff is your religion - you're bound to believe it.

Here's some stuff about Hadow and his fellow apostles:

THREE shivering global warming activists, stuck on an ice floe in the Arctic, are helping to tear up the psychology textbooks.

In 1956, US psychologist Leon Festinger became instantly famous for giving us “cognitive dissonance”—the theory that humans couldn’t tolerate two conflicting perceptions. One would have to go.

Ha! It’s taken half a century, but warming believers are now making a monkey of old Festinger.

As proof, here are three recent news items about the latest pilgrimage to the North Pole of three scientists, all hot gospellers of our new faith and all convinced the ice cap is barely there.

February 13, 2009, from Britain’s Herald Express: The team of three will be measuring the thickness of the ice . . . The data they gather will give scientists a better idea of just how long the ice cap could survive.

February 19, 2009, from the online diary of team leader Pen Hadow: With unusually heavy snowfall in Britain just before we left for Canada, leave-taking from our families was not quite what we had planned.

March 18, 2009, from AFP: Project director and ice team leader Pen Hadow and his colleagues, Martin Hartley and Ann Daniels, are now down to half rations and fighting to survive in brutal sub-zero weather conditions.

Never mind. Hadow’s team may be deep frozen, half-starved and cut off from rescue by howling gales, while their loved ones shiver in Britain, but think they’ll stop believing the world is actually a sauna, and heating to hell?

Hell would freeze over first. This is a faith where believers can feel cold and think hot—displaying all the symptoms of Festinger’s cognitive dissonance, but without feeling any need to reconcile two conflicting perceptions. Theory kaput.

Need more proof? Consider last year’s Arctic pilgrimage, this time by eco-adventurer Lewis Gordon Pugh.

August 30, 2008, from the BBC: Lewis Pugh plans to kayak 1200km (745 miles) to the North Pole to raise awareness of how global warming has melted the ice sheet . . . This year, for the first time, scientists predict that the North Pole could briefly be ice-free and that has inspired Mr Pugh . . .

September 6, 2008, from Reuters: Pugh’s kayak trip ended at 81 degrees north, about 1000km from the Pole. (A) barrier of sea ice . . . eventually blocked his route north . . .

But not even 1000km of ice could stop Pugh from believing in a disastrous melting he couldn’t actually see: “The disappearance of this sea ice is happening considerably faster than scientific models predicted a year ago.”

Take that, Festinger. And for my coup de grace, consider 2007’s pilgrimage.

February 26, 2007, from PRNewswire: On March 4, world-renowned polar explorers and educators Ann Bancroft and Liv Arnesen will embark on a historic 75-day expedition to the North Pole and beyond to raise awareness of global warming’s impact on the fragile Arctic.

March 12, 2007, from AP: Ann Bancroft and Liv Arnesen . . . called off what was intended to be a 530-mile trek across the Arctic Ocean after Arnesen suffered frostbite in three of her toes, and extreme cold temperatures drained the batteries in some of their electronic equipment . . .

“They were experiencing temperatures that weren’t expected with global warming,” (spokesman Ann) Atwood said.

But even with her toes black with frostbite from a cold she hadn’t expected, Arnesen still kept preaching of a heating planet.

Of course, warming spruikers will be furious with me for so mocking their faith. Don’t I know that weather isn’t climate? Don’t I know that one day’s temperatures don’t prove the world is either cooling or warming?

Actually, I do. But do they?

After all, it only took Melbourne to last month record its hottest day since 1851 for warming worriers here to scream it was global warming.

Did you hear the ABC’s Jon Faine? But there’s a man so cognitively dissonant that he last year broke off preaching against global warming gases for just long enough to joy-drive a four-wheel-drive from Melbourne to London.

It’s astonishing how desperately such believers cling to their warming faith, even as their toes fall off from the cold.

What more prompting would they need to use their remaining digits to Google the satellite record of world temperatures—which would tell them that the world in fact stopped warming a decade ago, even though we each year pump out yet more of the gases we’re told are baking us?

Doesn’t happen. Again and again we see instead protests against warming held in weather so cold that Festinger would have bet all Tim Flannery’s frequent-flyer points on the protesters going mad from the cognitive dissonance.

March 2, 2009, from CNSNews: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif) had to cancel an appearance Monday at a global warming rally in Washington, DC, that was hit by a snowstorm because her flight was delayed (by) inclement weather.

In fact, the moment politicians demand cuts in greenhouse gases, the mocking heavens open up.


October 29, 2008, from London’s Register: Snow fell as the House of Commons debated global warming yesterday—the first October fall in the metropolis since 1922.

Veterans of the global warming debate will have by now spotted a rich variant of the famous “Gore Effect”—the theory that wherever green guru Al Gore speaks of global warming the temperature promptly plunges.

We saw that for ourselves when the Inconvenient Truth star visited Australia in 2006 to give we’re-doomed sermons (and gimme-cash absolutions). It may have been November, but Melbourne on that very day got no warmer than 14 degrees, as hail pelted our suburbs and snow coated our mountains.

But the joke has blossomed, like a triffid, into something more alarming—a mass psychosis where whole populations, and especially journalists, no longer register any mismatch between theory and observation, or even between thought and deed

March 13, 2009, from AFP: Prince Charles, 60, and Camilla, 61, were on a 10-day, three-nation tour taking in Chile, Brazil and Ecuador’s Galapagos Islands . . . to draw attention to the challenges posed by climate change.

Yes, they’re crossing continents to warn against the gases they’re blowing out the back of their big jet.

February 15, 2009, from The Australian: Charlie’s private Airbus A319 will seat just 29, but the aircraft holds 134 passengers when used commercially.

Mind you, what you’d call hypocrisy in Prince Charles is Standard Operating Cognitive Dissonance for professional warming alarmists, who fly in their many thousands to air-conditioned conferences to instruct the rest of us to walk and sweat to save the planet.


2007, from the United Nations’ Framework Convention on Climate Change website: The conference (which the UNFCCC called to cut global warming gases) took place at the Bali International Convention Centre and brought together more than 10,000 participants, including representatives of over 180 countries . . .

Even your garden green is no better. Quantum Research last year surveyed 2000 Australians on how much they’d “embraced the green culture”, and ranked them in five groups, from Ultra Green to Un-Green.

While the Ultra Greens were, not surprisingly, most likely to join green groups, Quantum found they were also most likely to join frequent-flyer clubs.

Poor old Festinger. Forget the polar bears, more numerous today than in the professor’s time. No, the real victim of global warming is his theory that we’re too sane to long tolerate two conflicting cognitions.

He’d never have guessed we could in fact grow so mad as to now be standing in the snow, howling at the heat.


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Post by Argonheart_Po » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:14 pm

*cough*
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:43 pm

This is an increase of 224,000 square miles (580,000 square km) on last year and a 375,000 square miles increase (970,000 square km) on 2007


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Post by Argonheart_Po » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:37 am

Argonheart_Po wrote:
This is an increase of 224,000 square miles (580,000 square km) on last year and a 375,000 square miles increase (970,000 square km) on 2007


You dope.

Even when you post the facts yourself you still cannot see them.

And as for this, you silly little creature:

environmentalists fear the Arctic could be ice free by 2030 because of global warming.


Only someone utterly ignorant, or a deep religious believer could post something so absurd.

I have a feeling you are both imbecilic and a hand-wringing apostle for this religion for urban first world elites, as well as having the character defects (unthinking respect for authority, explosive anger at dissent) that you have already identified for us.

Watch this. Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC7bE9jo ... r_embedded



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Post by بھائی اوتار لینا » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:04 am

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 111128.htm
The Arctic Ocean could become ice-free in the summer in the next 20 years due to a natural, long-term warming phase in the tropical Pacific that adds to human-caused warming, according to a new study.

Computer models predict climate change will cause the Arctic to be nearly free of sea ice during the summer by the middle of this century, unless human greenhouse gas emissions are greatly reduced.

But a closer examination of long-term temperature cycles in the tropical Pacific points towards an ice-free Arctic in September, the month with the least sea ice, on the earlier side of forecasts, according to a new study in the AGU journal Geophysical Research Letters.

"The trajectory is towards becoming ice-free in the summer but there is uncertainty as to when that's going to occur," said James Screen, an associate professor in climate science at the University of Exeter in the U.K. and the lead author of the new study.

There are different climate models used by researchers to predict when the first ice-free Arctic September will occur. Most models project there will fewer than 1 million square kilometers of sea ice around the middle of this century, but projections of when that will occur vary within 20-year windows due to natural climate fluctuations.

The climate model used in the new study predicts an ice-free Arctic summer sometime between 2030 and 2050, if greenhouse gases continue to rise.

By accounting for a long-term warming phase in the tropical Pacific, the new research shows an ice-free Arctic is more likely to occur on the earlier side of that window, closer to 2030 than 2050

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Post by بھائی اوتار لینا » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:08 am

and 7 out of the 10 lowest ever maximum sea ice years have been since the OP was written..

scroll down.
https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2019 ... te-record/

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Post by Lost Soul » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:17 am

The Arctic Ocean was ice free all summer long, for at least 1000 years between 5000 BC and 4000 BC. They know this thanks to the wave cut land forms in Northern Greenland, full of datable remains of people who disappeared when it got cold again.

I blame the Sumerian Hummers myself. But others have different theories. And none of them involve CO2.

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Post by eric84 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:23 am

Sure, back then, there were not nearly as many of us to move and adapt. Can’t do that today without impacting millions and millions of people. We’re enabling a major social experiment and we have no idea how it will turn out.
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Enabling?

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Lost Soul wrote:
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Enabling?

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Post by Godjira » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:37 am

And, the changes back then weren't as sudden or, of course, caused by humans pumping ton after ton after ton after ton of CO2 into the atmosphere.
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Post by eric84 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:44 am

I was at a talk tonight from a sea ice expert and he did say that in one 10 year period the temperature went up 9 degrees. As i said though, easier to adapt when the global population is much lower.
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Post by Godjira » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:26 am

That is too drastic, like the sudden yearly temperature shifts they found evidence of in the Greenland ice cores.

The steady yet noticeable change in temperature we have now can really only be attributed to one cause.
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That is too drastic, like the sudden yearly temperature shifts they found evidence of in the Greenland ice cores.

The steady yet noticeable change in temperature we have now can really only be attributed to one cause.
Fascinating.

The earth, as I'm sure you're aware, is currently getting cooler.

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Post by Godjira » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:40 am

The space inside your head is getting colder.

Oh, didn't AnchorRAGE have the hottest summer on record, Weather Boy?
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I am honored to finally learn that Anchorage controls the global climate.

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Post by Godjira » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:25 am

I was just copying your ridiculous style of citing weather (one year to one year, or an average to one year) and local climate (North America, etc.)
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Post by Lavite » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:23 am

Wow. Care to explain the sea shells that are still found where I live? And I am far from the coast. You can melt all the ice in the world, I love it. I then have a house on the beach.
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Post by بھائی اوتار لینا » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:09 am

is good to look on the bright side lavite..

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Lavite wrote:
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Wow. Care to explain the sea shells that are still found where I live? And I am far from the coast. You can melt all the ice in the world, I love it. I then have a house on the beach.
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Post by بھائی اوتار لینا » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:41 am

Again, as in the other global warming thread from 2009, the new normal since 2009 when this OP was made is different from the old normal.
On August 13, ice extent dropped below 5 million square kilometers (1.9 million square miles). This never occurred prior to 2007, but has occurred every subsequent year apart from 2009 and 2013.
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Post by Lost Soul » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:51 am

I guess you haven't yet heard of the global warming crusaders who recently got stuck in the ice north of Norway, and had to be rescued?

Yes, both the getting stuck, and the rescue, took a lot of diesel, and a dollop of helicopter jet fuel. Thanks, assholes.
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Post by بھائی اوتار لینا » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:03 am

Oh c'mon, satellite photos dont lie.

You can even see the couple of acres i ran a drag blade over on my gold patch from google sat, shitfull as it is..

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Post by andybox » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:21 am

How’s Antarctica these days?

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Post by بھائی اوتار لینا » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:25 am

Dunno, have to find a 2009 OP on it to compare

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Post by Lost Soul » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:27 am

Here is a proper primer on the subject, Dbro. Go forth with your sword based on nothing, as you were; or at least something, which is preferable to your leftardic propaganda feeds from cradle to grave.

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/poli ... locations/
A study by meteorologist Anthony Watts found that almost 90 percent of the 1221 weather stations in the U.S. did not meet the National Weather Service’s setting standards, which requires that they be at least 100 feet from any artificial heat source or radiating surface. You can see some of the most egregious violators here. To deal with this defective information, climate scientists, have “adjusted” the data to solve this problem. Invariably, these adjustments have made earlier data show lower temperatures, and recent data show higher ones.

To develop reliable data, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) placed 114 state-of-the-art weather stations relatively evenly spaced about the lower 48 states. They were carefully sited to be away from urban areas, which are heat islands, airports, which can be affected by jet exhaust, etc.

The system became operative in 2005. Now, realclearenergy.com is reporting that there has been no increase in average temperatures in the continental United States over the last 14 years, as measured by these new stations. If anything, overall temperatures are slightly cooler than they were.
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Post by Godjira » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:32 am

Anthony Watts is a bullshit artist.
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Post by andybox » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:33 am

Interesting, L-S. I maintain a weather station at the airport I manage, and it’s located within 15-20 metres of our wind sock, which has a 5m circular bitumen Base. I’ll have to look at the Australian standards and see if it complies.

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andybox wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:33 am
Interesting, L-S. I maintain a weather station at the airport I manage, and it’s located within 15-20 metres of our wind sock, which has a 5m circular bitumen Base. I’ll have to look at the Australian standards and see if it complies.
is it an official BoM site Andy..

https://environdata.com.au/faqs/what-ar ... uirements/

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Re: Arctic sea ice at record third lowest level

Post by andybox » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:41 am

Yeah it is, and thanks for the link.

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Post by بھائی اوتار لینا » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:58 am

maybe L.S is right then.. and youve played an unwitting part in it all andy..?

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Re: Arctic sea ice at record third lowest level

Post by eric84 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:09 pm

Lost Soul wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:27 am
Here is a proper primer on the subject, Dbro. Go forth with your sword based on nothing, as you were; or at least something, which is preferable to your leftardic propaganda feeds from cradle to grave.

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/poli ... locations/
A study by meteorologist Anthony Watts found that almost 90 percent of the 1221 weather stations in the U.S. did not meet the National Weather Service’s setting standards, which requires that they be at least 100 feet from any artificial heat source or radiating surface. You can see some of the most egregious violators here. To deal with this defective information, climate scientists, have “adjusted” the data to solve this problem. Invariably, these adjustments have made earlier data show lower temperatures, and recent data show higher ones.

To develop reliable data, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) placed 114 state-of-the-art weather stations relatively evenly spaced about the lower 48 states. They were carefully sited to be away from urban areas, which are heat islands, airports, which can be affected by jet exhaust, etc.

The system became operative in 2005. Now, realclearenergy.com is reporting that there has been no increase in average temperatures in the continental United States over the last 14 years, as measured by these new stations. If anything, overall temperatures are slightly cooler than they were.
So, if 10% of the weather stations met the standards, what were their findings, ditchdigger? Even if it were true that the US hasn't experienced warming in 14 years (it has), the world is a big place.
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Re: Arctic sea ice at record third lowest level

Post by Lost Soul » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:40 am

The earth cooled by a degree two years ago, reversing all global warming in the 20th century.

I blame the CO2 rise, personally.

And yes, we're all going to die in 11 years unless the Bolshevik Bartender gets the power to destroy in her hot little hands.
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Re: Arctic sea ice at record third lowest level

Post by Godjira » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:35 am

You're talking about one year. That is fucking weather, not climate, you planet raping scumbag.
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