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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:32 am

Oh dear.

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Post by rosstralia » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:03 am

Its antisemitic.
The poster below is a moron

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Post by Shavenhead » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:42 pm

Next to go - Billy Vunipola.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:38 am

Billy's input was a lot more measured, if not I'll considered.

He will get a slap on the wrist.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:40 am

Billy's Saracens lost a last minute try game to Bristol yesterday.

Billy was booed during the game.

Do you know what the supporter's of Bristol favourite song is by the way?

It's Raining Men!

lol - you couldn't make this stuff up.

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Post by Shavenhead » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:21 pm

Folau had to make a choice between Rugby and Jesus. He's chosen Jesus:

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/i-will-m ... ks-silence

This is going to hurt the Wallaby's world cup effort. He's their star player. They were already struggling, and now with Folau out, and possibly Pocock due to injury, their two best players are out of action.
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Post by harry_flashman » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:43 am

So white liberals behaving like neo colonials again? Maybe those islanders need to unionise and tell the fagits where to get off. Well said billy.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:45 am

Shavenhead wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:21 pm
This is going to hurt the Wallaby's world cup effort. He's their star player. They were already struggling, and now with Folau out, and possibly Pocock due to injury, their two best players are out of action.
Michael Hooper's feelings are hurt.

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Post by Red_V » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:52 am

It was the CEO of QANTAS,who just happens to bat for the other team that gave Rugby Australia the ultimatum - Terminate Folau or lose your major sponsor.
It turns out Alan Joyce wasn't too happy to hear of the path Israel had mapped out for him and his Oxford Street bar-hopping friends.

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Post by Shavenhead » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:58 am

Meanwhile, DMac has now also been ruled out of the WC, which means both Australia and New Zealand will be without their star full backs.

Now just holding thumbs that Willie le Roux doesn't get injured or do something stupid before the WC. He was on form this weekend, scoring a try which secured a win for Wasps over Exeter Chiefs.
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Post by Geoffers » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:20 am

D Mac has done us a favour getting injured, Bender is our man at fullback and plenty of others around too that the coaches don't consider to be a choice for 1st five too.
Shaven, Falau didn't choose Jesus, he chose Exekial who was thousands of years earlier.

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Post by jedgarandclyde » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:22 am

I do think Peter Fitzsimons put it best the other night in a TV interview, that he should keep his mouth shut while he was making the big bucks during the time he played, and when he stopped playing it was time to open his mouth again.

It was not anti-anything, but just a whole lot of common sense spoken i thought by Fitzsimons.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:29 am

Geoffers wrote:
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Bender is our man
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Post by Shavenhead » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:46 am

Bender meaning Ben Smith? Surely he's better off on the wing?
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jedgarandclyde wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:22 am

It was not anti-anything, but just a whole lot of common sense spoken i thought by Fitzsimons.
Fitzsimons like many white Australians like yourself clearly still has a colonial era mentality towards non whites.
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Post by Geoffers » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:40 pm

If Falau really believes he should live by everything written in Ezekial then he’s fine with slaves being taken from neighbouring countries. Say, Pacific Islanders being taken as slaves by white Australians.

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Post by Geoffers » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:41 pm

Ben Smith is our best fullback, we have planty of wings.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:07 am

Billy V given formal warning from English RFU.

To be held on his file for 5 years.

I think he should take the advice he gave himself last month when he said he was going to come off social media.

Meanwhile, Joe Marler has been trolling Billy, posting a photo of him leaving a nightclub in Dublin, completely scuttered. (Folau's tweet mentioned 'drunks' going to hell also).

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Post by VinnyD » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:29 pm

Mods, move this to the Israel-Palestine branch.

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Post by jedgarandclyde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:33 pm

' White Australians'


Harry, do please put your racist brain into gear, before you open your big mouth will ya?
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Post by Geoffers » Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:00 am

I reckon Falaus lawyers are going to ensure he keeps his $$$$ for the 4 years of his contract, so he’ll be shown to be dishonest, and the RA CEO will have to resign because she didn’t make sure they had a contract with him which said he couldn’t post hate messages on social media. Great for Falau, 3 years in club rugby to preserve his body at over a million bucks a year. Life is better than fiction, Rugby Australia are so inept it wouldn’t be believable in a novel if it was written this way.

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Geoffers wrote:I reckon Falaus lawyers are going to ensure he keeps his $$$$ for the 4 years of his contract, so he’ll be shown to be dishonest, and the RA CEO will have to resign because she didn’t make sure they had a contract with him which said he couldn’t post hate messages on social media. Great for Falau, 3 years in club rugby to preserve his body at over a million bucks a year. Life is better than fiction, Rugby Australia are so inept it wouldn’t be believable in a novel if it was written this way.
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Post by Unwashed_Pom » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:16 am

There's a difference between free speech and hate speech. Folau is a conservative fuckwit who was probably baptized by the good reverend Fred Nile.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:19 am

You can be in breach of contract by code of conduct.

Arguing it is anothing matter.

The idiots today dont understand that if they are going to be active users of social media, 'in theory' they are never fully outside the reach of their employers.

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Unwashed_Pom wrote:
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There's a difference between free speech and hate speech. Folau is a conservative fuckwit who was probably baptized by the good reverend Fred Nile.
QED

Its the job of whites to educate those Polynesian heathens about how a 'civilised' society functions.

Good on Folau for standing up to the racists and good on Billy for backing up Folau.
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Post by Unwashed_Pom » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:53 am

Where did I mention race? I'd of said the same about a whitefella.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:14 am

harry_flashman wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:46 am
Unwashed_Pom wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:16 am
There's a difference between free speech and hate speech. Folau is a conservative fuckwit who was probably baptized by the good reverend Fred Nile.
QED

Its the job of whites to educate those Polynesian heathens about how a 'civilised' society functions.

Good on Folau for standing up to the racists and good on Billy for backing up Folau.
Because Billy is of high virtue in his behaviour off field of course.

The tweet wasnt just about homosexuals.

It also mentioned behaviours you probably indulge in on a daily behaviour, Harry.

Do you go to church, or are you just a mass troll?

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Unwashed_Pom wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:16 am
There's a difference between free speech and hate speech. Folau is a conservative fuckwit who was probably baptized by the good reverend Fred Nile.
Conservative is not yet punishable by mandat**y (**just in case) career extinction.
Fuckwit is a prerequisite for Rugby.
Probably is a Carlsberg ad campaign.
Baptism isn't yet illegal.
Fred Nile is irrelevant.

Free speech is about tolerating speech you disapprove of.

Any illiberal bigot can comfortably support officially-approved "free" speech.

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Fuckwit is a prerequisite for Rugby.
Unlike the head to toe fully inked bogans that infest Collingwood?

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Post by harry_flashman » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:41 am

Folau didn't suggest that fags should be killed by merely that bestial sexual acts are considered unchristian. The actions of Australian rugby football union are a breach of his human rights but the fact that those doing the postering are invariable white and those on the receiving end are often not white just underlines the covertly racist nature of this attack and Billy is standing up to what he probably sees as a neo colonial white supremacist complex.
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Post by GLimpet » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:38 am

This is the offending Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwEWt2uHcLI ... hcwkqt8gjh

As some commentated, that encompasses almost all Australians.

Although I doubt it was the drunks and fornicators who got him banned from rugby.

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Geoffers wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:00 am
I reckon Falaus lawyers are going to ensure he keeps his $$$$ for the 4 years of his contract, so he’ll be shown to be dishonest, and the RA CEO will have to resign because she didn’t make sure they had a contract with him which said he couldn’t post hate messages on social media. Great for Falau, 3 years in club rugby to preserve his body at over a million bucks a year. Life is better than fiction, Rugby Australia are so inept it wouldn’t be believable in a novel if it was written this way.
You're flat out wrong there Geoffers. Folau is an Australian representative, and writing what he did is bringing the game and the ARU into disrepute. Bye bye contract, bye bye Folau. Every professional sportsman and woman with an ounce of brain know this.

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Post by jedgarandclyde » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:10 am

I would suggest that Fitszimons did speak a lot of common sense in the interview, in that we that we all know Folau's stance on this issue.

But main thrust of his argument was why doesn't Folau shut the fuck up, while he is still playing?

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
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Post by Shavenhead » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:37 pm

They should have kept him on for the WC and then fired him.

Now they're not going to win the WC.

Sad.
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andybox wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am
Geoffers wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:00 am
I reckon Falaus lawyers are going to ensure he keeps his $$$$ for the 4 years of his contract, so he’ll be shown to be dishonest, and the RA CEO will have to resign because she didn’t make sure they had a contract with him which said he couldn’t post hate messages on social media. Great for Falau, 3 years in club rugby to preserve his body at over a million bucks a year. Life is better than fiction, Rugby Australia are so inept it wouldn’t be believable in a novel if it was written this way.
Folau is an Australian representative, and writing what he did is bringing the game and the ARU into disrepute. Bye bye contract, bye bye Folau. Every professional sportsman and woman with an ounce of brain know this.


And so is the ARU. By undermining this guys human rights you are underlying why Australia is and continues to be a 3rd rate shithole.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:03 pm

Billy V got a warning from the English RFU.

That stays on his file first years, and will be considered should he bring the game into disrepute for anything un the future.

Are you saying England is also a 3rd rate shithole?

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Post by harry_flashman » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:16 pm

All the monotheistic faiths take a dim view of buttfuckers none more so than Islam. Andy was recently vehemently defending the right of an muslim American member of congress to royally put her foot in it and yet the same rules don't seem to apply Folau. He is known as Andy 'Box of rocks' for a reason.
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Post by andybox » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:17 pm

harry_flashman wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:16 pm
All the monotheistic faiths take a dim view of buttfuckers none more so than Islam. Andy was recently vehemently defending the right of an muslim American member of congress to royally put her foot in it and yet the same rules don't seem to apply Folau. He is known as Andy 'Box of rocks' for a reason.
Vehemently defending who? Link or shut the fuck up Harry.

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Post by jedgarandclyde » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:32 am

The latest from here is that the Sans Folau 'Tahs did win on the weekend.
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Post by Geoffers » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:44 am

Ignore Harry, he’s trolling everyone.
I agree with you Andy and hope that I am wrong, but give it time and see if Falau gets his contract money or not. Either way he’s been paid very well for 10 years so should be set up for life, unless he’s as stupid as he seems to be.

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Post by jedgarandclyde » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:48 am

I do think his advisor, should advise him to shut the fuck up.

No, no not Harry, i mean Falau.

Though both of them doing so would be a win-win.
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Geoffers wrote:
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Ignore Harry, he’s trolling everyone.
I agree with you Andy and hope that I am wrong, but give it time and see if Falau gets his contract money or not. Either way he’s been paid very well for 10 years so should be set up for life, unless he’s as stupid as he seems to be.
I'll revise what I said above slightly. He DOES have a right to free speech, just like all of us do. But pick your audience or suffer the consequences. Even though the post is a direct quote from the old testament (I think), it doesn't give him free rain to vilify certain groups of society, his team mates, their families, his supporters, the hand that feeds him (ARU) etc etc. He can do and say what he likes, but if his workplace have rules about saying this stuff publicly (and they certainly do), then he's in breach of his contract.

I could be totally wrong in that this is his rights as an Australian citizen with regards to free speech; I guess the courts will decide on that.

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Post by harry_flashman » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:40 am

Freedom of speech and freedom of conscience is the norm in any civilised society but Australia right now is right up their with Brunei when it comes to civil rights violations. I vote we boycott the place.
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Post by Flobster! » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:58 am

Folau has freedom of speech.

But his employment contract limited what he could say and retain that contract. Just like every employment contract in the world.
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Post by harry_flashman » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:16 am

So clearly australia does not have freedom of speech. Even somebody as stupid as you should realise that attempting to put arbitrary limits on freedom of expression is both repressive and regressive. What folua says in his own time is his own affair.
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Post by Unwashed_Pom » Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:31 am

Most unlikely you'll be caned, beheaded or drawn and quartered. Terribly civilised, us.

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