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Post by Lincoln » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:08 pm

How tall was that mountain you climbed EMG?


To me it looks,oh I don't know....perhaps 50 meters high....Nifty trip report!

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Nice photos.

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holy cow

I think it was about 1/3 of that when I was there last in the 90s, according to wiki it doubled since 2002 but that looks low to me
I was there in 1992, and can't believe how different it looks now. I was wondering about this recently because I watched that movie, 'Everest'. They showed Katmandu in the movie as a big bustling place, and that's not how I remembered it so I was wondering if they just made it dramatic for the movie. I guess not.

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leela wrote:
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Basically 48 hours or more of this

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Yeah. I'm not cut out for that. I'd probably cry.

Me too, but great pic.
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Post by muthafunky » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:13 am

I’d cry because of the snow obscuring the great views

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Post by section8 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:27 am

That’s be some great trail riding on a snow machine.
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Nice, awesome phots thanks EMG
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Post by Kikilamour » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:11 am

It's not fun. You're not getting any great views because you're looking at your feet the entire time making sure you're not slippping. The visibility is crap too. total torture bullshit. hahahaha. not my idea of fun. i'm sorry you're poor girlfriend cried. I hope you made her feel better at night.

stan, you make a good point. emg survived this trip!!!!! excellent news.

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Steve_in_Exile wrote:
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Awesome trip report. This picture of the telephone wires looks just like Manila. Can't they just rip all that shit down now that everyone is on cell phones?

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Some parts of Honduras were like that. Crazy.

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It's not fun. You're not getting any great views because you're looking at your feet the entire time making sure you're not slippping. The visibility is crap too. total torture bullshit. hahahaha. not my idea of fun. i'm sorry you're poor girlfriend cried. I hope you made her feel better at night.

stan, you make a good point. emg survived this trip!!!!! excellent news.
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Post by DianaHaddad » Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:52 am

These are amazing pics, EMG. I love the one of the people through the break in the prayer flags.

What is the name of the village that you showed before and after the snow?

Was this your first in-depth experience with snow? Did it change your feelings about cold weather?
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Post by EMG » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:18 am

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What is the name of the village that you showed before and after the snow?

Was this your first in-depth experience with snow? Did it change your feelings about cold weather?
That village is Tadapani, it sits at 2630masl.

I've been in snow before. Went snowboarding in Colorado when I was a teen. Went snowboarding in Japan last year. Been in some deepish stuff in Montana back in my teens as well, but this was my first time doing heavy trekking in deep snow.

I absolutely loved it. And I didn't mind the lack of landscape scenery because the snow scenery was just so pretty.

Also it was my GF's and her friends first time ever to see real snow. They were somewhat miserable in the cold but we all really liked the views.

Before and after the snow storm we were treated with really great views as well.

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Post by section8 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:27 am

So how long till you go back without the GF?
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Great photos...hard core carrying 25 kgs of other peoples stuff...
It was definitely a workout. Multiple days like this.

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I liked the dal baht but it's not the best thing ever. Most Nepalese food to me tasted like kinda bland Indian food. I actually opted for curry and Indian stuff a few times.

Scenery was hard to beat though

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Post by DianaHaddad » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:43 am

Glad it all went so well.
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Post by desertstorm » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:03 am

Glad you had a blast, and I hope the views came back after the snow.

Those 25kg backpacks were a bit hardcore.

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EMG wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:33 am
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Great photos...hard core carrying 25 kgs of other peoples stuff...
It was definitely a workout. Multiple days like this.

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I liked the dal baht but it's not the best thing ever. Most Nepalese food to me tasted like kinda bland Indian food. I actually opted for curry and Indian stuff a few times.

Scenery was hard to beat though

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My brother sent me plenty of stunning photos, even though I did the trek myself before, really happy going back there next week.

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Post by ExPat From Hell » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:43 am

So what was the highest you got? Were the girls impacted by the altitude?

Carrying their packs was also an awesome way to increase your endurance and cardio fitness.
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so, after you carried both of the girls bags all day, they both, you know, made sure you were comfortable in the evenings right?
Haha. The friend told the GF she's never allowed to break up with me after this.
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So what was the highest you got? Were the girls impacted by the altitude?

Carrying their packs was also an awesome way to increase your endurance and cardio fitness.
3180MASL was the highest sign I saw,that was in Deurali. But immediately leaving Deurali I'd guess we climbed 200-400m en route to the next stop over, so probably in the 3500 range.

I started the girls on Diamox the day we started climbing but they both got pretty sick anyway. Headaches and vomiting and so on. I didn't have any issues myself.

Didn't mind carrying the bags either, my shoulders got a bit sore but didn't even register in my legs.

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So, youve been rewarded since you got back right?
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Post by Kikilamour » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:48 am

trekking in the snow, moe. that's what's not fun. his girlfriend cried! i would have too. I hate cold.
when i did poon hill in february it was gorgeous and sunny and only slightly cool in the valleys.

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EMG wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:03 am
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so, after you carried both of the girls bags all day, they both, you know, made sure you were comfortable in the evenings right?
Haha. The friend told the GF she's never allowed to break up with me after this.
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So what was the highest you got? Were the girls impacted by the altitude?

Carrying their packs was also an awesome way to increase your endurance and cardio fitness.
3180MASL was the highest sign I saw,that was in Deurali. But immediately leaving Deurali I'd guess we climbed 200-400m en route to the next stop over, so probably in the 3500 range.

I started the girls on Diamox the day we started climbing but they both got pretty sick anyway. Headaches and vomiting and so on. I didn't have any issues myself.

Didn't mind carrying the bags either, my shoulders got a bit sore but didn't even register in my legs.
3500 meters is high enough for altitude sickness, you were pushing it if they were headachey and vomiting, ye are meant to rest and take it easy for a couple of days if that happens, or if possible go downhill a bit.

or is there really just a pill for that nowadays.?

first time I went to china i got lethargic and dull headache at 3000 meters, rested for two days in this tibetan manor style guesthouse, then was fine for the rest of the trip, even saw 5000 meters on a pass.. (near dege)
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Post by EMG » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:08 pm

Yeah by day 3 when they were really sick we were pretty much peaking out anyway, so it was mostly downhill from there. They weren't sure if it was altitude sickness or bad food or water. I had no stomach issues at all until the very last day when we left. Not sure if it was water or what but it passed quickly.

When I did Mt. Apo back in October it was over 2000m of ascent in like 7 hours, but I hear the longer you're up the more likely you are to get sick, so maybe it was the duration we spent at altitude.

ETA: I actually gained weight on this trip. Too much rice and dal.

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Post by dBrother » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:11 pm

I've heard of other people gaining weight, while in nepal, trekking up mountains, ye wouldn't reckon it eh?
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Post by EMG » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:15 pm

Yeah funny that. Tomorrow I'll be back to running and eating lighter.

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Post by Kikilamour » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:17 pm

maybe it's just fart gas?

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Post by EMG » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:24 pm

Nah I'm fat, but I've also been slacking on my running for the last month or two, so it's been a gradual buildup.

After carrying 3 bags all day I was eating 2 or 3 portions of the dal baht. Which is a lot. My GF doesn't like curry-ish foods and her friend doesn't like anything spicy, so they ate a lot less. Then when we got back to Thailand my gf had like 50 prawns at a seafood buffet.

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Great photos and report!

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Post by ceylon_tea » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:29 pm

nice trip report!

Just curious why did you decide to go in the winter?

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nice trip report!

Just curious why did you decide to go in the winter?
It was my birthday (2/25) so I always go somewhere for my birthday, and the tickets were pretty cheap. That was my primary motivation.

I did a lot of Googling and it said the end of February and early March would be cold at night but pleasant during the day, which it was, and that the visibility would be very good, which it mostly was, and there would still be snow, which I really like.

Another big thing was it said by April it gets so packed with tourists it can be difficult to find vacancies in teahouses, and you'll be bumping into people left and right.

It was pretty empty when we went. You could hike for hours without seeing anyone except maybe a lone porter or some trail animals. Some of the tea houses we stopped in only had one or two rooms occupied (of maybe 5-8).

We took a gamble on the pass being open, and unfortunately it wasn't, but otherwise I think it was a good time to go.

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Post by Total Reject » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:40 pm

I'm guessing the Filipinos had never been much above sea level for more than a few hours. Their bodies just weren't used to processing oxygen that way. Glad you enjoyed it...

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Post by EMG » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:47 pm

Right. I did consider that Manila is at 12 meters above sea level or so. And neither of them hike very often.

I've been hiking with both of them in the past. The GF and I did Mt Pulag recently which is actually at like 2900MASL, but it was a dayhike and we left that evening, so maybe if she was going to get altitude sickness there it would've taken a bit longer to kick in.

Or maybe they both just had food poisoning.

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Post by DCComic » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:02 pm

AMS is pretty random. I’ve been ill at 3500m and fine at 5500. I’ve heard of Nepali porters dying at Annapurna base camp. (4200)

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Post by muthafunky » Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:08 pm

Another big thing was it said by April it gets so packed with tourists it can be difficult to find vacancies in teahouses, and you'll be bumping into people left and right.
Crazy how much that’s changed. I was there in March and April and never ran across any tea house that didn’t have vacancy. Also, the trails were pretty empty, particularly the higher up you went.

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Post by EMG » Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:46 pm

Even at the time I went there were occasional huge groups that would pass us, or, worse, keep pace with us. Seemed like half the tourists were Germans, and some of the guides even spoke fluent German. I think one group must have been over 20 of them.

I was amazed how developed some of the lower stops were too. Ghorepani was a full fledged town with multiple story tea houses and convenience stores and a pub.

But then up at elevation they were just shacks with a fireplace in the common area and a few small rooms with beds in the back.

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Post by northern_goddess » Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:51 pm

I enjoyed the pictures and I'm glad you had such a great trip. How are you feeling about being back to reality? Have you started your new job yet?
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Post by muthafunky » Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:55 pm

Annapurna has gotten really developed now that they have a road that goes all the way up to Jomsom

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I enjoyed the pictures and I'm glad you had such a great trip. How are you feeling about being back to reality? Have you started your new job yet?
I'm going in tonight to sign my contract and meet with the 'mobility team' who are going to be the ones to process my visa and all my hiring stuff. I told my team tonight I was resigning.

Will be starting the new job April 1.

Feeling pretty checked out of the current job but doing my best.

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Post by Kikilamour » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:06 pm

you got me all vinny about how many calories were in a cup of dal. turns out 220 or so. did you eat buckets of it? because it says it takes 21 minutes of running to burn that shit down.

you must have been snarfing down snickers bars too.

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Post by EMG » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:09 pm

A dal baht meal is a cup of dahl, a bowl of rice, a bowl of curry potatoes, some kind of wafer bread thingy, and then some assorted vegetables and pickles. The dal baht was the best value meal because you get unlimited refills on everything. So I'd eat like a double portion of that most days. I'm sure it's a lot of calories.

There were shirts in Pokhara that had printed on them "Dal Baht power = 24 hour!" I laughed.

I didn't have any snickers. I ate mostly hard boiled eggs along the trail.

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Post by Kikilamour » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:24 pm

ooooooooh, three PLATTERs of food with potatoes and bread and rice. i see now. it's delicious. you'd think the hot sauces would burn the calories. heh

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Post by EMG » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:28 pm

Like this. As much as you wanted for about $4-5US.

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I had that for most dinners, or occasionally vegetable curry.

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Post by Flobster! » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:00 am

Are the girls talking about it as, "Wow, that that really hard but listen to these gruesome stories!" or ""Worst time of my life, I don't wanna talk about it'"?
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Post by Kikilamour » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:36 am

hahaha! Good question flobby.

that looks like i could eat 3 platters of it no problem. i had farty fart giardia when i was there and had a bloated gut but lost weight. me and my friend emily both did.

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Post by muthafunky » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:55 am

The dal baht I had in Nepal was usually very bland. The main reason I ate it in the mountains is 1) The locals ate it so I trusted it more and 2) I built up a big appetite trekking all day and could eat a couple platefuls.

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Post by EMG » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:27 am

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Are the girls talking about it as, "Wow, that that really hard but listen to these gruesome stories!" or ""Worst time of my life, I don't wanna talk about it'"?
They both said (at least to me) they were really happy they did it. But for them I think it was always a “let’s do this so we can say we did once” trip. For me it was just another hike and I’d do loads more

But yeah they didn’t like the food, loved the scenery but didn’t really like the hiking, so all they got was photos. We’re going to a beach next

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Post by desertstorm » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:00 am

There are a lot of 'It's the hardest thing I've ever done IN MY LIFE' videos on YouTube about these treks, not from 65 year old beer bellied men, but some young, fit and stylish looking travel bloggers.

My brother and I sent each other those things and giggled about them.

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