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Post by leela » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:07 pm

Say you have a flight at 05:25. Would you:
a) Stay in the city as late as you could (lumbered with your backpack) then head to the airport and try to catch some zzzzs on a row of chairs*
b) Stay in the city as late as you could (lumbered with your backpack) then head to the airport and book a (not very exciting, so no sleep options) lounge
c) Check in at basic hotel near the airport (ten minutes shuttle) in the evening, try to get some sleep, and set an alarm for 3am
d) Other

The city/airport is Bangkok, if it makes a difference.

*Sleeping in Airports gives it a high rating, and says it's good for quiet areas with chairs with no arms to lie down on.
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Post by Chip_Oatley » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:12 pm

Is it a 24-hour airport?

I recently had a 6 am flight and just stayed up all night organizing paperwork and stuff. I fell asleep right away and flopped my head into the aisle. A FA had to nudge me.

Probably c, or a modification on b. if lounge is open all night (unlikely).

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Post by VinnyD » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:15 pm

Me? c.

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Post by erkat » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:19 pm

c.

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Post by leela » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:31 pm

The only thing about c that bothers me, is sleeping through my alarm. The worst nightmares I've ever had have involved that. I woke up screaming, once. I'm not sure I'd get any sleep for fear of missing my flight.

In the terminal, I'm only likely to nap, so less likely to sleep through because of random noises?
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Post by Lincoln » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:42 pm

Definitely a C for me.

I also worry about sleeping through my alarm...or at least I used to...now my alarm is on my iPhone so all I do is set 5/6 alarms 2 minutes apart....chances are I'm going to hear at least one of them.

I'd also ask to be woken by the hotel if possible.

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Post by leela » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:52 pm

While I'm trying to decide, I've booked (free cancellation) the very last one of these, from 6pm. Might be a compromise between a and c (though more expensive than each of the three options)

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Post by rider5 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:55 pm

I've only spent the night in an airport once, and it was against my will. It was a long and uncomfortable night so I'm voting c.

How many times have you slept through an alarm in your life?

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:59 pm

leela wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:52 pm
While I'm trying to decide, I've booked (free cancellation) the very last one of these, from 6pm. Might be a compromise between a and c (though more expensive than each of the three options)

https://www.expedia.com/Bangkok-Hotels- ... nformation
Thank goodness for the free cancellation!

$25.

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Post by leela » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:04 am

$25 is for the daytime slots.
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Post by snowgirl » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:35 am

D) re-book the flight so it's not at some ungodly hour that I kind of don't believe even exists.
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Post by leela » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:45 am

snowgirl wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:35 am
D) re-book the flight so it's not at some ungodly hour that I kind of don't believe even exists.
You're kidding me. It's a cheap 'no flexible anythings' ticket. I agree with you on getting up at 3am though. Does 3am exist?
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Post by snowgirl » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:47 am

Well, of course I wouldn't re-book now. But I have a serious aversion to sleep deprivation and hope I would never be so optimistic as to think I could manage a 5:00 am flight.
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Post by muthafunky » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:11 am

C, though I agree with the not booking ungodly hours anymore (along with always getting the direct flight and more legroom if available).

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Post by rezuar » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:12 am

Leela, If you stay awake all night, you ll sleep better on the plane.
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Post by rider5 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:18 am

In the US airports are designed to be diabolically uncomfortable for anything over an hour. The message is to keep moving.

I don't remember any major international airports being much better.

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Post by muthafunky » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:20 am

I know of a great spot to sleep in SeaTac- comfortable seats close together with no arm rests, it’s a bit out of the way, and no one ever sits there. Obviously I’ve never had a need to use it though.

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Post by northern_goddess » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:24 am

c)

I've never slept through an alarm and I am able to get to sleep pretty early if I need to. Is there a hotel right in the airport? I would probably pay extra for that rather than doing a shuttle in the morning. Well, depending on how much extra it cost.
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Post by rider5 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:27 am

muthafunky wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:20 am
I know of a great spot to sleep in SeaTac- comfortable seats close together with no arm rests, it’s a bit out of the way, and no one ever sits there. Obviously I’ve never had a need to use it though.
That is gold. I don't think I've ever seen seats that aren't individually divided with armrests anywhere. I've walked all over DEN, SLC, and PHX.

I've only flown into SEA once, on a layover. It's a pretty nice airport. I liked it a lot.

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:33 am

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Post by GLimpet » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:04 am

c) my days of wrecking my back trying to sleep in airports are over. I hope.

Although I wish that woman in the next room would stop screaming that she'd missed her alarm.

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Post by cummy » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:57 am

c) is my choice.

i need my pre-flight routine whether the flight is at 5am or at 11am. i need to wake up, have a light brekkie if possible (or at least a coffee) and then head to the airport (by foot or by shuttle). or, i grab a coffee at the airport. after all of that, then i am excited to get on the airplane.

if you're worried about not waking up, then take 2 alarm clocks. that is what i do.

as for lounges, it depends on the country and the airport. all usa airline lounges at usa airports shut at night -- usually from around 11pm or whenever that last flight leaves until they re-open at 5am. non-usa airports tend to have lounges, shopping, food courts, etc open all night.

in my younger days i would stay up all night (in whatever city) and then turn up at the airport just in time to catch my flight.

in my younger days we would party all night at the "dorian gray" disco (sadly now closed) at frankfurt airport before catching our morning flights (at 10am!).

if you do stay in a hotel, do factor in the transport time. is the hotel with the 5 minute walk to the terminal (and a few dollars more) a better option than the cheaper hotel with the 15 minute shuttle ride?

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Post by Lost Soul » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:04 am

I'm a D) stay up all night, unless I'm flying from home.
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Post by lolasf » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:00 am

c) is my usual. If the flight was at 3am I'd maybe try to find a lounge and drink too much, but 5am is probably past my limits now.

You'll be so freaked out about missing your flight you won't let yourself oversleep. Plus, what if you do? Maybe a rebooking charge and a later flight, you'd survive. Your budget and time restraints probably aren't as strict as they used to be (though I agree that missing a flight would be stressful!).
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Post by DCComic » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:22 am

I’d stay in my hotel in Bkk for as long as possible (pay for a late checkout if necessary), leave my bags in their reception, go for a late dinner, get hotel to sort out an airport car. Plenty of places at BKK tomread and have coffee for a couple of hours.
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Post by fishface » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:13 am

Considering 6am is my usual departure time, I'd probably just treat it as an early flight as if I was at home. It's a bit late/early to just stay awake and I tend to have crappy sleep on planes; staying awake would just make me wild eyed for 12 hours or whatever.

Go for the hotel. If you really want to scrimp I suppose you could stay in a hostel room and just use all its facilities before checking out at midnight or whatever. But I assume in Bangkok you wouldn't need to do that (cheap?)

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Post by DCComic » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:18 am

I’m always at least three hours ahead of departure for an intercontinental flight.
2.25.
An hour to get to the airport.
1.25.

That’s a couple of coffees and a chapter or two past midnight.
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Post by VinnyD » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:58 am

Set the alarm and leave a wake up call with the hotel.

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Post by leela » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:12 pm

At the moment, I'm thinking those sleep pods are my best bet. They're actually in the airport, so less stress when I wake up, and I don't have to allow time for a shuttle/taxi.
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Post by Cyllarus » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:31 pm

Snowgirl said:
D) re-book the flight so it's not at some ungodly hour that I kind of don't believe even exists.
Not always possible. We have a 4:45 a.m. flight from Delhi to Paro, Bhutan in mid-March. Only 1 flight/day and only airline flying to Paro that day.

Leela, We are in same situation.
Am going with c) and expect to leave hotel at 2 a.m. and work hard to get through IGI security before our flight.

Good luck to you.
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Post by Cyllarus » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:33 pm

Leela said:
At the moment, I'm thinking those sleep pods are my best bet.
Also sleep pods at IGI but reviews state they have bugs and difficult to sleep as not sound insulated. Hotel 10-minutes away is our answer.

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Post by steveogolf » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:32 pm

My last sleep in an airport overnight was inside the Panama City International Airport where I found a spot out of sight in an upstairs corridor adjacent to shops which were closed overnight. It was fine.
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Post by Homerj » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:35 pm

Stay at an airport hotel.
Arrive to check in at 4:25 (but I would have already checked in online, and as I rarely if ever check bags would just have my bag with me).
I'd proceed through security and head to the lounge for a very quick bite to eat before boarding.
I'm going to the back seat of my car, with the woman I love, and I won't be back for ten minutes!

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Post by snowgirl » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:27 pm

Cyllarus wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:31 pm
Snowgirl said:
D) re-book the flight so it's not at some ungodly hour that I kind of don't believe even exists.
Not always possible. We have a 4:45 a.m. flight from Delhi to Paro, Bhutan in mid-March. Only 1 flight/day and only airline flying to Paro that day.
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Post by GLimpet » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:15 pm

I am blatantly breaking my business trips up with overnight stops these days, to avoid red-eyes and early mornings.

I've got an 09:45 tomorrow morning and I'll turn up at the airport at a leisurely 08:30.

What with stops and all, I'll spend all day tomorrow travelling, then have meetings late next morning, rather than get up at 03:30 for an 05:30 flight just so I can fit meetings in on the same day.

Did that for years and did I get any thanks for it? No, I did not.

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:39 pm

No, you did not.

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Post by cummy » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:33 pm

GLimpet wrote:
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Did that for years and did I get any thanks for it? No, I did not.
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for many many many years i never had a normal 2 day weekend (saturday and sunday). why? every sunday morning i would take a 6am (or 7am or 7:45am) flight from the left coast to the east coast, so that i would be chipper and perky for work on monday morning. because of the time zone differences (and flight duration), it is not possible to fly from the west coast in the morning and arrive on the east coast any earlier than the later afternoon. the only thing i got out of it was an extra hotel night (sunday night) while the other fools were able to fly in on monday morning. ah the jetsetter life!

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Post by leela » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:46 pm

I've just realised that setting off from Asia to the UK at that time (and there's a five hour layover in Doha) means that my entire journey of 20 hours will be in 'daytime'. Which means the cabins are going to be light throughout, and it'll be impossible to sleep (for me - even with eyeshades) Even unsuccessful attempts at proper sleep, pass some time. I'm going to be SO bored.
I'm really regretting this flight now.
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Post by Chip_Oatley » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:14 am

I recall arriving in an African country after a straight shot east coast-Europe-Africa, and having a meeting right away with someone giving us a lot of important information. My colleague looked like I felt. At one point, she gave me a look that said, "am I conscious right now and not drooling? I am not sure. Are you retaining any of this? No, nor I."

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Post by BeatRaven » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:10 am

Tons of good cheapies by the airport under $20. Most are near good massage places.

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Post by polardude1 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:19 pm

I'm done with sleeping over night at airports. My last over night was in New Delhi's airport. That transfer lounge from international to domestic flights was air conditioned with soft leather seats
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Post by GLimpet » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:55 pm

cummy wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:33 pm
GLimpet wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:15 pm
Did that for years and did I get any thanks for it? No, I did not.
while we are griping...

for many many many years i never had a normal 2 day weekend (saturday and sunday). why? every sunday morning i would take a 6am (or 7am or 7:45am) flight from the left coast to the east coast, so that i would be chipper and perky for work on monday morning. because of the time zone differences (and flight duration), it is not possible to fly from the west coast in the morning and arrive on the east coast any earlier than the later afternoon. the only thing i got out of it was an extra hotel night (sunday night) while the other fools were able to fly in on monday morning. ah the jetsetter life!
Fuck that cummy.

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Either at home or at the destination.

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Post by harry_flashman » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:26 pm

D

Not way would sleep if I knew I had to catch a slight at 5 with a check in about 2-3. Unless the hotel was literally opposite the airport I would arrive early try and try and get some shut eye in the airport. Suvarnabhumi has never struck me as particularly sleeper friendly airport however.
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Post by Andrea1 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:11 pm

Well, I tried sleeping at Singapore airport, airside, in a really comfy lounger, when I arrived there around midnight, Was woken up at 3am, escorted to landside with 3 others. Which was slightly less embarrassing than had it have been just me. Managed to lose a plug, somewhere.

Spent 5 hours airside in transit 2 nights ago at KL. found a comfyish chair, Drowsed a little, plenty of people were sleeping on the carpeted floor. Managed to lose another plug - the replacement one, plus iphone cable. I 'm blaming being knackered. Time for me to give up sleeping at airports, I guess.

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Post by leela » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:32 pm

My sleep pod link didn't make it, I've just realised.

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:02 pm

I would do it for the experience alone.

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Post by Homerj » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:17 pm

You folks do realize that there are hotels that are actually in or part of the airport right?
I'm going to the back seat of my car, with the woman I love, and I won't be back for ten minutes!

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Post by leela » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:57 pm

Homerj wrote:
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You folks do realize that there are hotels that are actually in or part of the airport right?
Yes. And they cost like £120 a night. For one person. C'mon homer, we're not all you. I'm a retired teacher, ffs.

ETA I was wrong. The airport hotel at Bangkok is £150 a night. And I'd be getting up at 3am at the latest.
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Post by bundes » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:12 am

I would book an extra night at the Bangkok hotel you are already staying at and then head to the airport from there.

I do this all the time when I have a late evening flight that is way past a late checkout.

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Post by leela » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:45 am

I think I'll see what my Bangkok place is like. Last time I had a stupid time flight (I think it was 2 or 3am) I was staying at a hostel where the staff were lovely and said I could hang out there as long after checkout as I liked. There was a decent social area and nice people around so I lazed on the sofas in the evening and chatted until midnight.
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