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What's the lesson from midterms?

Post by nycfellow » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:54 pm

So what was the big lesson you take away from the midterm results?

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Post by Citizen Baba » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:56 pm

Probably that the Dems should play a lot more dirty, running ads linking Trump to right-wing terrorists, racism, and Russian infiltration. To save our democracy, vote against him and his party.

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Post by eric84 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:05 pm

Geez, why didn't think of inventing a Russian caravan?
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Post by steveogolf » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:13 pm

Did anyone watch or hear the questions from reporters and Donald Trump's responses thereto on Wednesday morning following his East Room comments about the mid-term elections?
Trump's responses were disgusting, and included yet more verbal abuse against the CNN reporter, Acosta, who Trump called a rude terrible person. He put on a circus with his evasive responses and verbal assaults on those who asked the important relevant questions which he did not want to answer.
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Post by Citizen Baba » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:15 pm

steveogolf wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:13 pm
Did anyone watch or hear the questions from reporters and Donald Trump's responses thereto on Wednesday morning following his East Room comments about the mid-term elections?
Trump's responses were disgusting, and included yet more verbal abuse against the CNN reporter who Trump labelled as a bad person. He put on a circus with his evasive responses and verbal assaults on those who asked the important relevant questions which he did not want to answer.
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Post by steveogolf » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:24 pm

The press conference is worth watching for its shocking entertainment value.
Of course we know that this is the Trump style, but it is surprising to me that he won't tone it down and appears to try to outdo himself each time he faces members of the media who he doesn't like.
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Post by Usher73 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:26 pm

I look forward to two yers of gridlock.

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Post by steveogolf » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:35 pm

Agreed that there will be gridlock for the next 2 years, and that things will get outright combative once the House issues subpoenas for Trump tax returns and for "evidence" related to his business holdings and his alleged misdeeds re Russia and election tampering .
But the financial markets like it because there is now a balance of power in Congress so neither side can romp over the other. The Dow Jones is up over 400 points at the moment.
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steveogolf wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:13 pm
Did anyone watch or hear the questions from reporters and Donald Trump's responses thereto on Wednesday morning following his East Room comments about the mid-term elections?
Trump's responses were disgusting, and included yet more verbal abuse against the CNN reporter, Acosta, who Trump called a rude terrible person. He put on a circus with his evasive responses and verbal assaults on those who asked the important relevant questions which he did not want to answer.
Donald Trump is a disgrace.
When the media wants to make it about racism or sexism, Trump will win. That is why he will tweet outrageous things in the hopes that they will distract from his actual problems. Trump's comments will outrage the left, the media will eventually overreach in their responses, which will cause Trump's base to rally behind Trump and forget whatever scandal du jour has most recently been tied to him, and the circle continues. Suburban voters go to the Dems, a few more Republicans announce they're leaving the party, the Dems pick up a few seats in the house while the Republicans pick up a few in the senate. Whatever Trump's doing, it hasn't stopped working for him yet, and he couldn't do it without the help of CNN.

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Post by Higgs Bossom » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:47 pm

The GOP should retain control of the Senate for at least 6 more years. I suspect Trump will have the opportunity to appoint at least two more to the Supreme Court.

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Post by steveogolf » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:49 pm

I do see your point. There is a purpose behind his outrageousness (sic).
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It's "historic." The (((leftwing media))) has been trumpeting that word in bylines all day.

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Post by northern_goddess » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:49 pm

nycfellow wrote:
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So, what do you think the big lesson is from the midterms?
A decent economy and a big dose of FEAR!!! works quite well in certain circles.
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Post by Annotated » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:54 pm

The big lesson is yet to come.

Will the Democrats use their win to work for the people or to worship at the altar of spite and revenge?
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Post by eric84 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:57 pm

Annotated wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:54 pm
The big lesson is yet to come.

Will the Democrats use their win to work for the people or to worship at the altar of spite and revenge?
I don’t think there’s anything spiteful about being a proper check on executive abuse that occurred the last two years. Clearly, the last Congress didn’t do its job.
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Post by Zamuel » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:49 am

I'm waiting to see what kind of fallout the firing of Sessions immediately after the mid-term vote generates.
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Post by andybox » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:51 am

Annotated wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:54 pm
The big lesson is yet to come.

Will the Democrats use their win to work for the people or to worship at the altar of spite and revenge?
Why haven’t the Republicans used the last 2 years to work for the people?
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Post by cowtown » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:57 am

the lesson is racism still wins elections and the Red State's identity politics will play even at the expense America

dems did better then they are getting credit for, don't believe Trumps declared victory -it serves the Dems well for 2020. He has been weakened greatly and few blues were appeased

now the dems just have to get their shit together, it'd be nice if they nullified Pelosi (not speaker of the house and no presidential run)
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Post by rider5 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:11 am

White Nationalism isn't going away. I only see it getting stronger over the next four to six years. It's going to take that long before it gets taken seriously as a threat instead of considered some sort of misplaced patriotism.

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Post by Andrea1 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:03 am

Trump is a pussygrabbing, lying, violence-inciting pig. Many People love him. Many of the People who love him are scum. Jealous, resnetful envious, nasty scum of low intelligence. Trump is the lowest common denominator with a huge appeal amongst varmints.

Yes, we always knew that. We also knew that plenty of additional including stalwart republicans who can't stand Trump (Homerj's mates) people are prepared to hold their noses and vote for him. This is still the case, as long as the economy is good, as long as Trump's bullshit, infantile, reckless gamesmanship doesn't blow up,

Plus what cowtown and Rider said.

It's clear you shouldn't fight fire with fire - fight nasty with nasty, the Democrats are held to a higher standard, just look at the nasty pigs here who demand that.

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Annotated wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:54 pm
The big lesson is yet to come.

Will the Democrats use their win to work for the people or to worship at the altar of spite and revenge?
Feeling a little bit....oh, I don't know....scared, you dumb cunt?

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andybox wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:51 am
Annotated wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:54 pm
The big lesson is yet to come.

Will the Democrats use their win to work for the people or to worship at the altar of spite and revenge?
Why haven’t the Republicans used the last 2 years to work for the people?

Because pieces of shit like Anno haven't required them to.

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Only now liberals are mad and some of them are in power.

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Probably that the Dems should play a lot more dirty, running ads linking Trump to right-wing terrorists, racism, and Russian infiltration. To save our democracy, vote against him and his party.
Yes.

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Post by BulletPark » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:35 am

Argonheart_Po wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:31 am
Citizen Baba wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:56 pm
Probably that the Dems should play a lot more dirty, running ads linking Trump to right-wing terrorists, racism, and Russian infiltration. To save our democracy, vote against him and his party.
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rider5 wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:11 am
White Nationalism isn't going away. I only see it getting stronger over the next four to six years. It's going to take that long before it gets taken seriously as a threat instead of considered some sort of misplaced patriotism.
Wow. Cuchforbrains5 has never come out as an Australia hater. Until now.
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Post by coffeeguy » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:24 am

What we learned is that a large part of the US voting public are complete idiots - you can constantly lie and manipulate them for two years straight against their best interests and they will still vote Republican. God help us all.

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coffeeguy wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:24 am
What we learned is that a large part of the US voting public are complete idiots - you can constantly lie and manipulate them for ten years straight against their best interests and they will still vote Democrat. God help us all.
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Post by Logg » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:45 am

cowtown wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:57 am
the lesson is racism still wins elections and the Red State's identity politics will play even at the expense America

dems did better then they are getting credit for, don't believe Trumps declared victory -it serves the Dems well for 2020. He has been weakened greatly and few blues were appeased

now the dems just have to get their shit together, it'd be nice if they nullified Pelosi (not speaker of the house and no presidential run)
I wonder who they should replace Pelosi with and why.

The one thing that went right for them this time was the House...and as a result they should replace Pelosi. Why and with whom?

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Post by andybox » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:50 am

Lost Soul wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:37 am
coffeeguy wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:24 am
What we learned is that a large part of the US voting public are complete idiots - you can constantly lie and manipulate them for ten years straight against their best interests and they will still vote Democrat. God help us all.
Indeed. Berniezuela is the only way. Everything's free!
Including decent health care
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:55 am

Not in Venezuela.
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Argonheart_Po wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:55 am
Not in Venezuela.
Where it's "free".
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Argonheart Soul “heart” STrump.
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Godjira wrote:
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Yeah, that’s right boys. You have to spend $2000 a month for insurance with a $2000 deductible because otherwise it’s Chavez.
Argon doesn’t, he’s benefiting from a decent social safety net that includes affordable, sometimes free, healthcare. But he doesn’t want that, because STrump!
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Post by Godjira » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:10 am

Hmm. But it’s okay for Americans.
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Post by andybox » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:13 am

Argon can go to a doctor and pay nothing (if there’s a bulk billing doctor available), or pay $70 and get a $37 refund. Yet he is a Trump supporter.
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Lost Soul doesn’t even have insurance, at least last time I checked.

It’s a joke like this is a joke:


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If there is administrative gridlock the GOP will blame the Dems for every bad thing that happens until Trump is elected for a second term. Any success will be his, any failure will be on the Dems. This election should have been a rout. Instead enough of the US has endorsed him to make his tone the new reality.
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DCComic wrote:
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If there is administrative gridlock the GOP will blame the Dems for every bad thing that happens until Trump is elected for a second term. Any success will be his, any failure will be on the Dems. This election should have been a rout. Instead enough of the US has endorsed him to make his tone the new reality.
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Post by Godjira » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:39 am

The election was a rout. The Democrats got millions more votes. 10% more, maybe even more. Vis a vis a booming economy, that’s a rout. The GOP should have gained governors. They should have kept Congress.

Republicans love Trump. Absolutely. But, most everyone else hates him. There’s a district in NJ that just flipped that has only gone Democrat once before in the last 100 years- after Nixon resigned.

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Post by Godjira » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:44 am

Trump is more popular than Reagan among the right, but among normal people? It’s a tumor of loathing. It’ll be interesting to watch it end.
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Godjira wrote:
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The election was a rout. The Democrats got millions more votes. 10% more, maybe even more. Vis a vis a booming economy, that’s a rout. The GOP should have gained governors. They should have kept Congress.

Republicans love Trump. Absolutely. But, most everyone else hates him. There’s a district in NJ that just flipped that has only gone Democrat once before in the last 100 years- after Nixon resigned.

Trump is done.
And yet he kept control of the Senate. All presidents get a similar knock back at this stage. He is America now.

Every fucking idiot who attacked Clinton , this is on you.
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Post by Godjira » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:13 pm

Well, first, it hard to get those senate seats in very conservative states, and these senators have hugely disproportionate amounts of power and represent very few citizens. My congressional district has more people in it than Wyoming, and they have their own senators AND a congressperson.

And, second, it’s really not all about Trump. Some states elected a senator of one party and a governor of another.

But I agree. Hillary would have been a fantastic President and the criticism of her was absurd.
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She was the alternative to Trump, who was evidently a vile POS from the get-go.
But a bunch of arseholes stamped their spoiled little feet because they wanted something that wasn't on the fucking menu.
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Post by Chi_Rup » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:09 pm

Here’s my interesting thought from the midterms:

If you take Florida as an example, what does it mean when amendments on the ballot enfranchising ex-felons and restricting offshore oil and gas drilling pass with 60%+, but the governor candidate associated with these measures loses? Are Republican voters supporting regulations far to the left of Republican leaders or what?

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Hillary was more than just an alternative to Trump.

She would have been a great president.

Instead, we got the worst, beloved by ignorant and spiteful cunts. Dickens warned, ignorance is worse than want.

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Argonheart_Po wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:31 am
Citizen Baba wrote:
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Probably that the Dems should play a lot more dirty, running ads linking Trump to right-wing terrorists, racism, and Russian infiltration. To save our democracy, vote against him and his party.
Yes.

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Chi_Rup wrote:
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Here’s my interesting thought from the midterms:

If you take Florida as an example, what does it mean when amendments on the ballot enfranchising ex-felons and restricting offshore oil and gas drilling pass with 60%+, but the governor candidate associated with these measures loses? Are Republican voters supporting regulations far to the left of Republican leaders or what?
I expect more of the people who voted republican didn't bother with the other issues.
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What's the lesson from midterms?

Post by Godjira » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:39 pm

There are plenty of people who voted Republican who didn’t think about Trump.

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Re: What's the lesson from midterms?

Post by coffeeguy » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:07 pm

For the bulk of trump supporters it’s all about the caravan of ISIS and MS-13 members. Nothing else matters. That’s why they voted trump.

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