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Post by Argonheart_Po » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:22 am

The dozens of incidents highlighted in this thread have one common theme. Australian men treat their sportsman like teenage girls used to look at Justin Bieber, and from about the same age too. So it’s no wonder they begin to act like Justin Bieber. Add to that the Aussie sport willingness to allow these men to behave as they like and you get the shit culture that the Australian cricket team has just shown to the entire world.

Time for a #Metoo moment for the cesspool that is much of Aussie pro-sport.
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Post by OnTheBall » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:29 am

Why do so many poms get so worked up about Australian sports when their own sporting culture is exponentially worse?

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:38 pm

I agree with you on most things but not this.

When I moved to Australia I expected it to have the best pro sporting culture in the western world. Best and fairest. But it doesn’t. It has the worst pro-sporting culture. It’s a great floating turd cesspool.
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I doubted it for a while but this thread will definitely get to 2,000

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Post by OnTheBall » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:59 am

Oh come on...

Peter Beardsley's racist bullying of youth players at Newcastle...

Team Sky and the apparent prerequisite that one must be an asthmatic in order to make it as an elite rider in a British cycling team...

The English national team manager being caught offering advice for money to a third party on how to "get around" the rules...

I won't even go into how obvious it is that Anthony Joshua is on steroids. He has always passed the tests (as has Armstrong, and one must be a moron to fail dope tests nowadays), but anyone who is into weightlifting can easily tell. But like I said, I can't go into it because he has always "passed."

But the one that outdoes anything you have criticised Australian sports on, by a country mile...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-21/m ... al/8122926

One of these coaches coached ex-Welsh international Gary Speed, who ended up killing himself for "undisclosed reasons."

But yeah, some wankers in a crowd doing monkey noises or some cricket player trying to tamper a cricket ball is way worse than the above.



I am not saying the Australian sporting culture is the best in the world, but the English/British one is not lying on a bed of roses.

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You know don’t you that all of the Australian Olympic swimming team were diagnosed with excercise induced asthma? That they’re a statue of a convicted drugs cheat outside the MCG?

But it’s not just that is it?

It’s the whole attitude that Australian sportsmen can do whatever the hell they like. Normal rules don’t apply to them.
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OnTheBall wrote:
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One of these coaches coached ex-Welsh international Gary Speed, who ended up killing himself for "undisclosed reasons."
Well its a good job you're not talented enough in a sport to have access to social media where suggestible people might actually read what unfounded allegations and theories you might post.

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You know don’t you that all of the Australian Olympic swimming team were diagnosed with excercise induced asthma?
So, a little bit like Bradley Wiggins and Team Sky then or is that instance acceptable?

Feel free to supply a reliable link that supports your latest claim that all the 'strayan Olympic swimming team otherwise I'm calling bullshit.
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OnTheBall wrote:
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But yeah, some wankers in a crowd doing monkey noises or some cricket player trying to tamper a cricket ball is way worse than the above.

I am not saying the Australian sporting culture is the best in the world, but the English/British one is not lying on a bed of roses.
Not exactly. Although I can't help but suspect that the Russian hooligans can't wait to give the English hooligans an absolute kicking this summer......

"England fans' behaviour in the Netherlands 'appalling' and a 'worrying trend', say police chiefs"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43527587
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:03 pm

The last time they played in Amsterdam I was living there and they were exactly the same.

I hope the Russian "fans" target actual hooligans this time. If you're prepared to throw a bottle, then you should expect to receive whatever is coming your way.

Its as shame, as since 2006 it seemed that (mostly) England away support was no longer being hijacked by the complete Muppet brigade.

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Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:15 pm
You know don’t you that all of the Australian Olympic swimming team were diagnosed with excercise induced asthma? That they’re a statue of a convicted drugs cheat outside the MCG?

But it’s not just that is it?

It’s the whole attitude that Australian sportsmen can do whatever the hell they like. Normal rules don’t apply to them.
So again, does any of the above about the Australian swimming team (I have never heard of the above) equate to the systematic sexual abuse of boys in English football?

And the fact that it has gone on for decades suggests that English coaches, administrators, etc can also do whatever the hell they like and that normal rules don't apply to them

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:22 pm

Sure - if Barry Bennel had not been arrested charged and jailed you might have a point. While you’re thinking about that, you can watch ‘The King’ Wayne Carey, himself a convicted sex offender, wife beater, thug and cokehead present the AFL Women’s Round coverage.
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Argonheart_Po wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:22 pm
you can watch ‘The King’ Wayne Carey, himself a convicted sex offender, wife beater, thug and cokehead present the AFL Women’s Round coverage.
Argonheart_Po wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:22 pm
Sure - if Barry Bennel had not been arrested charged and jailed you might have a point.
Yeah, after how many decades of abuse?
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you can watch ‘The King’ Wayne Carey, himself a convicted sex offender, wife beater, thug and cokehead present the AFL Women’s Round coverage.
Don't follow AFL, so don't know what's going on there. Could I watch racist bully Beardsley be a VIP guest of the FA for the England/Italy game instead?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... endly.html

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Argonheart_Po wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:22 pm
Sure - if Barry Bennel had not been arrested charged and jailed you might have a point. While you’re thinking about that, you can watch ‘The King’ Wayne Carey, himself a convicted sex offender, wife beater, thug and cokehead present the AFL Women’s Round coverage.
That's a pissweak response even by your standards. It only took 30ish years for him to be arrested and convicted and even now Crewe won't hold an internal inquiry - if the countries were reversed you'd be shrieking like a lunatic about this.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... ing-barry/

Now, how about that link about *all* of the Australian swim team having "asthma".
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:50 am

Sorry. Can’t find the report. It was 2004 or 8.

Meanwhile let’s look at an easy example.

John Terry and Darren Lehman both called their opponents “Black cunts”. One was arrested, charged and taken to court. The other got a slap on the wrist, was made national coach and had a statue made of him.
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Argonheart_Po wrote:
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Meanwhile let’s look at an easy example.
Yeah, let's not, at least not until you answer how the Australian examples you have listed equate to 3 decades of covering up child sexual abuse in English football.

Eagerly awaiting your response.

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MELBOURNE (Reuters) - Australian swimming coach Scott Volkers, a former mentor to Olympic and world champions, has been arrested and charged with multiple counts of child ...

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Report of Case Study No. 15: Response of swimming institutions, the Queensland and NSW Offices of the DPP and the Queensland Commission for Children and Young People and Child Guardian to allegations of child sexual abuse by swimming coaches (PDF)...

https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.g ... %20DPP.pdf
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The experiences of men and women who were sexually abused as children in sporting clubs.
The response of Tennis Australia, Tennis NSW and the New South Wales Institute of Sport to allegations of child sexual abuse by a tennis coach.
The response of Football NSW to allegations of child sexual abuse by a soccer coach.
The systems, policies, practices and procedures in relation to child protection and for receiving, investigating and responding to allegations of child sexual abuse promoted and implemented by:
Australian Olympic Committee
Australian Paralympic Committee
Australian Sports Commission
New South Wales Institute of Sport
Netball Australia
Little Athletics Australia
Surf Life Saving Australia
Football Federation Australia
Football NSW
Tennis Australia
Tennis NSW
Cricket Australia
Queensland Cricket
A local Queensland cricket club

https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.g ... stitutions
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And on and on including the fact that a famous AFL player could kill a teenage girl with heroin, refuse to speak to the police about it and be let off scot free. And another famous AFL player who raped a teenage girl and his club engaged in an illegal conspiracy with the Victoria Police to cover it up, while also employing people to harass and intimidate the girl - for years.

Want more? I’ve got lots.
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Wellpisser wrote:
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I doubted it for a while but this thread will definitely get to 2,000
It’s Australian sport. Unless there is a #metoo moment (the cheating in SA might just be it) then this thread could go on for another few years.
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Er....Argo, the first link I posted notes that there are allegations made by more than 400 players against 155...155...one hundred and fifty five...coaches and administrators spread around 150 clubs...this is systematic.

Remember this? Liverpool showing support for Suarez, after Suarez made a racist comment towards a black French player

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Chelsea paying hush-hush money to a former youth player who made allegations against a scout


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... ve-broken/


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The Chairman of the AFL said yesterday that he’s quite happy thank you very much for clubs to pay hush money to the victims of sexual and violent assault of their players.

Only in Australia.
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The Chairman of the AFL said yesterday that he’s quite happy thank you very much for clubs to pay hush money to the victims of sexual and violent assault of their players.

Only in Australia.
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Disgraceful and illegal.
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This week an AFL coach has been charged with trafficking meth and ecstasy. Turns out no one is surprised. Everyone knew - “he’s been doing it since 2001”. The clubs he’s been employed by knew, the media knew. No doubt the police knew too. But this is Australia, in particular Melbourne, so naturally he was allowed to do whatever he liked.

One AFL coach trafficking meth. Another was murdered recently by someone on meth. A third had his son killed in a car where meth was involved. About 20-25% of all players tested positive in recent hair tests.

Is there a worse western sporting culture?

No. No, there is not.
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The week after another AFL coach is mentioned - not sacked - because of his sexual harrassemrnt of a young female employee. The woman is paid hush money - hush money being the AFL approved method (genuinely) of dealing with these problems - and the coach is still coaching.
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This week an AFL coach has been charged with trafficking meth and ecstasy. Turns out no one is surprised. Everyone knew - “he’s been doing it since 2001”. The clubs he’s been employed by knew, the media knew. No doubt the police knew too. But this is Australia, in particular Melbourne, so naturally he was allowed to do whatever he liked.

One AFL coach trafficking meth. Another was murdered recently by someone on meth. A third had his son killed in a car where meth was involved. About 20-25% of all players tested positive in recent hair tests.

Is there a worse western sporting culture?

No. No, there is not.
Fuck. Who? Which club? 25% of players using meth-that is extraordinary.

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Two years ago they had an out of season hair test. It was released by a whistleblower.

In some clubs 50% of the roster tested positive. Others only a few. A conservative estimate is 25%.

Meth is the drug of choice for AFL players. No calories, increases other atributes useful in a contact sport and because of the AFL drug test regime you can never test positive. What you do is tell the doctor what might be in the sample. Then - because of their regime - it becomes a medical problem, is not reported to the club and remains secret. The drug testing system is designed to keep things secret.

I was chatting to an ex player in our town. A nice young lad. Played about 15 games for Fremantle and was released. Says it’s common place, especially if you’re injured. Players will gather in groups, take meth and play video games.

In addition, almost every suburban or country club has a meth problem.
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Two years ago they had an out of season hair test. It was released by a whistleblower.

In some clubs 50% of the roster tested positive. Others only a few. A conservative estimate is 25%.

Meth is the drug of choice for AFL players. No calories, increases other atributes useful in a contact sport and because of the AFL drug test regime you can never test positive. What you do is tell the doctor what might be in the sample. Then - because of their regime - it becomes a medical problem, is not reported to the club and remains secret. The drug testing system is designed to keep things secret.

I was chatting to an ex player in our town. A nice young lad. Played about 15 games for Fremantle and was released. Says it’s common place, especially if you’re injured. Players will gather in groups, take meth and play video games.

In addition, almost every suburban or country club has a meth problem.
I have to say that I am not surprised, I know that many places in NSW such as Kempsey or Nowra have dreadful meth problems and of course the AFL helps cover up player usage.

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I imagine that the much-better-paid Euro soccer players use cocaine the same way that AFL players use meth.
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Speaking of which, this was in the paper this weekend......

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... -fit-crime

No matter how audacious the effort the shot is unlikely to fly into the top corner – even though Cas accepts that Guerrero, who says he accidentally ingested cocaine in a tea, did not intend to enhance his performance.

How do you accidentally ingest gak with your tea?
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I believe it’s difficult not to in Peru.
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I imagine that the much-better-paid Euro soccer players use cocaine the same way that AFL players use meth.
Maybe, but I doubt it. If you’re paying someone 350,000 pounds a week you’re damn sure they’re following the rules. Their blood sill be tested within an inch of its life, if such a thing is possible. Those testing positive are usually sacked immediately. One even had to pay back his 14 million quid transfer fee.

A friend of mine is a chef in Melbourne. She worked in a restaurant partly owned by three AFL players, one of whom is on the TV and radio all the time. Says they’d come in coked off their nuts. Use coke in the back rooms - often with footy journalists and broadcasters - and hang around with Hells Angels. Remember that coked up footy player shooting guns with the Hells Angel murderer in the centre of Melbourne? Guess what happened to him? Nothing of course.

Players have simply moved onto meth. It’s footy culture.
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Post by Flobster! » Tue May 22, 2018 11:42 am

A quick google will disabuse you of those romantic notions.

And Didak (in the 11-year-old incident, which changed AFL consorting rules) was never accused of firing the gun.
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I imagine that the much-better-paid Euro soccer players use cocaine the same way that AFL players use meth.
Highly unlikely-top clubs treat the players the way race horse owners treat their top thoroughbreds and generally think of them in the same way too-their diet is strictly monitored as is their exercise regime. In addition to which the binge drinking culture has largely disappeared from top flight football, mostly because of the number of players from countries who lack the boozy lad culture.

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I imagine that the much-better-paid Euro soccer players use cocaine the same way that AFL players use meth.
Highly unlikely-top clubs treat the players the way race horse owners treat their top thoroughbreds and generally think of them in the same way too-their diet is strictly monitored as is their exercise regime. In addition to which the binge drinking culture has largely disappeared from top flight football, mostly because of the number of players from countries who lack the boozy lad culture.
Samir Nasri came back for pre-season 2kg overweight. Guadiola outrage. Train with the reserves. Sold as soon as possible. Gone.
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Argonheart_Po wrote:
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I imagine that the much-better-paid Euro soccer players use cocaine the same way that AFL players use meth.
Highly unlikely-top clubs treat the players the way race horse owners treat their top thoroughbreds and generally think of them in the same way too-their diet is strictly monitored as is their exercise regime. In addition to which the binge drinking culture has largely disappeared from top flight football, mostly because of the number of players from countries who lack the boozy lad culture.
Samir Nasri came back for pre-season 2kg overweight. Guadiola outrage. Train with the reserves. Sold as soon as possible. Gone.
Australians simply won’t understand this level of professionalism and focus.

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:18 am

I see that David Warner is back playing cricket.

That didn’t take long. The first step in the public rehabilitation that will end up with him back in the national team. Naturally, as I normal human being I hope this doesn’t happen - but this is Australia. Sport warps morality.

Meanwhile - it turns out that PowerPoint slides sent to players in the national team used to contain headings like “Watch The Ball Cunt”.
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Re: Drug Cheats in Australian Sport

Post by Flobster! » Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:17 am

Why would you object to that? That's a great way to send the message.
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Post by Geoffers » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:15 am

Someone off their nut on meth isn't going to sit down and play video games.Get real.
I worked on a FIFO site, because of random drug tests, guys stopped smoking marijuana, as it can be detected for many weeks afterwards, and started taking coke, meth, and other drugs that cleared from the system in days. In effect, the drug screening forced them onto stronger drugs, rather than make them eliminate drugs from their life.Unintended consequences that multinational companies don't think of or take into consideration. It might well be the same with professional sport.

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:20 am

Geoffers wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:15 am
Someone off their nut on meth isn't going to sit down and play video games.Get real.
I worked on a FIFO site, because of random drug tests, guys stopped smoking marijuana, as it can be detected for many weeks afterwards, and started taking coke, meth, and other drugs that cleared from the system in days. In effect, the drug screening forced them onto stronger drugs, rather than make them eliminate drugs from their life.Unintended consequences that multinational companies don't think of or take into consideration. It might well be the same with professional sport.
It’s why 25% of AFL players take meth.
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Re: Drug Cheats in Australian Sport

Post by Wellpisser » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:00 pm

So what happened in the Phillipines? The Australian mens basketball team beat up the Filipino team or some such? I don’t follow basketball- what happened exactly?

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Re: Drug Cheats in Australian Sport

Post by Wellpisser » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:08 am

This is interesting and I have not seen much coverage of it in Australia but then I don't read Te Australian except when they give it to you free at the airport


Did the chief suspects past life as a rugby league player influence the local Northern Beaches police?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/worl ... -n00frjqss



Teacher’s Pet podcasts reignite search for Lyn Dawson

Gilwinga Drive in the north Sydney suburb of Bayview is a quiet, subtropical oasis. Expensive houses stand well back from the road. It is hard to tell what is going on behind the white fences.

Something happened here 36 years ago that has never been solved, and now the mystery has come back to grip a worldwide audience in a series of podcasts called The Teacher’s Pet. The case has become not just an internet sensation but also a police probe into a murder and a school sex ring.

Hedley Thomas, national chief correspondent of The Australian, sister newspaper of The Sunday Times, has done what the police failed to do and properly investigated the disappearance of a young mother, interviewing dozens of people who knew her.

Thomas has unfolded his shocking story in the series of podcasts, downloaded more than 12m times, that are topping the charts in America, Canada, Britain and New Zealand.

Family and friends in Sydney’s northern suburbs have long been sharply divided over whether Lyn Dawson, a nurse, bolted in 1982 or was murdered. Thomas leaves little doubt that he thinks she was killed.

Lyn’s husband, Chris, was a star rugby league player who became a PE teacher. They had been sweethearts since high school, but he had a fierce temper and friends noticed her bruises.

The couple had two daughters, Shannelle and Sherryn — aged four and two when their mother vanished — who were often looked after by one of Chris’s students, Joanne Curtis, 16.

Just before Christmas 1981, Lyn discovered that Chris and Joanne were having a sexual relationship. Barely two weeks later, Lyn vanished. Chris maintained that she had told him she was going away for a few days and “not to worry about her”.

To the consternation of Lyn’s friends, Joanne moved into the house on Gilwinga Drive, wore Lyn’s jewellery and acted as mother to the two little girls. Two years later she and Chris moved to the Gold Coast in Queensland and married.

It did not last. Joanne returned to Sydney in 1990, bringing new information and prompting the police, who had shown little interest in Lyn’s disappearance for nearly a decade, to question Chris at length.

Their investigation petered out, however — until in 1998 a former friend of the missing woman told police that she suspected foul play.

A proper investigation began, including a dig in the Gilwinga Drive garden that unearthed a cardigan with what appeared to be slash marks — but no body.

In 2001 a coroner concluded dramatically that Lyn had been murdered by her husband, but the New South Wales director of public prosecutions (DPP) ruled there was insufficient evidence to charge him.

Two years later, another coroner reached the same verdict but again the DPP ruled there was insufficient evidence for a murder charge. Chris denied being a wife-killer, and again inquiries petered out.

Now, however, even so long after the event, Thomas’s podcasts have had an extraordinary effect: witnesses have come forward to fill in some of the gaps in the mystery and to reveal the sordid background to it.

Former pupils at Cromer High School, where Chris was employed, said that the grooming of schoolgirls was common practice among several members of the staff there and at other nearby schools in the early 1980s.

These claims have been taken so seriously that the police have set up a taskforce to investigate the allegations.

One of the women who made the complaints said some of the teachers, who would now be in their seventies, would be shaking in their boots. A former student at a school Chris subsequently taught at in Queensland told Thomas that he had tried to groom many of her friends and would wrestle on the beach with bikini-clad girls as young as 13.

As a result of the podcasts, detectives have stepped up their inquiries into Lyn’s disappearance. The New South Wales police commissioner, Mick Fuller, has apologised for the past handling of the case when some “pretty poor” assumptions were made.

The police had received “a lot of information” as a result of the podcasts, he said, and might return to Gilwinga Drive with radar and body-finding dogs as they “need to be absolutely sure that Lyn Dawson is not buried there”.

Fuller added: “If we don’t dig again ... it will be an open wound for lots of people.”

Will there be justice for Lyn? Her former husband, who still lives on the Gold Coast, has always protested his innocence and maintained she is still alive.

Some years ago he wrote to Shanelle, his eldest daughter, that he had spotted her mother in the background of an edition of the BBC’s Antiques Roadshow filmed at Padstow in Cornwall.

“The likeness of your mum is uncanny and has given a strong sense of hope that at last her whereabouts may be known,” he wrote.

Shanelle feels she is close now to getting an answer to what really happened to her mother.

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Re: Drug Cheats in Australian Sport

Post by Wellpisser » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:18 am

Podcast here:

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/the-teachers-pet

I can just sense Lincs and Diddles hovering - desperately waiting to get that biggest boundary yet...

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:13 am

That story wouldn’t surprise me. Gary Ablett was able to kill a girl and the judge game him a nice cup of tea and asked for his autograph. Wayne Carey is a talking head, despite his sexually assault and woman bashing. Eddie the racist McGuire is still the head of the AFL, at least in media terms. St Kilda colluded with a serving officer to steal information on the victim of one of their rapist players, around the same time their players were swapping numbers with 15 year old girls on a school visit. A Collingwood player was firing guns in the City, without going to prison. The NSW state of origin team - last year - was riddled with women beaters, drug and sexual offenders.

And on and on. If you kick a footy straight here, the normal rules of society do not apply to you.
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