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L00ser Clique Advice

Post by WhosieWho » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:27 pm

So Scumbag Clique is the excons and the tatooed muscle brahs (some Chad, some not), we get it.

But what is the waif-ish teen who spent a year in prison (that IS possible!) and lives in state-funded program, getting a GED and working at Panera to make $s for Newport Menthols, who dreams of working at Home Depot? Gah. This is all true.

No, we are NOT a career counselor - we basically know nothing about the Poors' plight (tragic broken families, bankruptcies, constant moves, etc. = cycle of poverty for many) - but can't someone 18 actually DO better than that?

What career advice do you give the dim, sheepish neighbor's kid, now? Mass. is ridiculously generous with FREE education/training programs for Addicts - isn't it insane to leave that money on the table? What kind of job training (for $$) should he get?
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Post by EMG » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:30 pm

Work hard and one day you could be a call center manager in the Philippines!

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Get Own Life?

Post by WhosieWho » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:36 pm

He's so beaten down or traumatized or mental, the idea of walking into a resto for an application is terrifying.
Impromptu, we walked with him, sent him in to 2 places and both were very encouraging (and probably WOULD hire) ...he was amaaaaaazed that could happen. "You could just walk in to a resto in a teeshirt and land a job?!" Uh, yeah.

He should get a trade, right? Welding? Some specialty electrical or what?
We basically forbid him to work at HomeDepot, because he'd prob never leave: it must be a ring in hell that Dante missed.
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Post by cowtown » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:38 pm

prison, GED, Newports and you have to ask?

scumbag

what is he interested in?

its the only thing worth training in as it's the only thing that will stick

he likes Home Depot, learn a trade; plumber, carpenter, electrician
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Post by section8 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:40 pm

If I was going with a trade I’d probably go electrician.
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Re: L00ser Clique Advice

Post by EMG » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:41 pm

Hey, he could go on to do great things if a lot of favorable circumstances come his way!

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L00ser Clique vs. Scumbag Clique

Post by WhosieWho » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:46 pm

Tell us more, Glitter! (You're NOT dim tho.)

He is looking forward to living in state-funded dorm housing (think Salvie) for 3 more years. No savings, nada. He does jerkoff to RE porn, but that might be others here too (Felix, not long ago!) "Craigslist Shared Bed w/ Dieter" ads are his dreams.

Scumbag Clique has N*gger Flash and Vegas hookers at least; L00ser Clique has No Own Bicycle and a welfare T pass.

Scumbag Clique beats on L00sers for kicks.

How do you pull/goad someone out of L00ser Clique?
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Re: L00ser Clique Advice

Post by cowtown » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:48 pm

EMG wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:41 pm
Hey, he could go on to do great things if a lot of favorable circumstances come his way!

-Former prisoner, Newport smoker, with a GED
^ nicely teed up, we'll let someone else take the first shot



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Re: L00ser Clique vs. Scumbag Clique

Post by EMG » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:49 pm

WhosieWho wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:46 pm
How do you pull/goad someone out of L00ser Clique?
If prison didn't do it... might not be much hope.

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Post by strife » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:50 pm

WhosieWho wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:27 pm

But what is the waif-ish teen who spent a year in prison (that IS possible!) and lives in state-funded program, getting a GED and working at Panera to make $s for Newport Menthols, who dreams of working at Home Depot? Gah. This is all true.
(Low) Loser. Tell him to Stay in his Lane. The Best he can hope for is Becliqued Loser, e.g., Hipster.
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Oh, he's SEVERAL RUNGS below Hipster

Post by WhosieWho » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:55 pm

Honestly, Cowtown: someone may have done that already. :(

The bright side is 'Very Low L00ser' can only move up! What's the Best Working Class Job (USA), looking forward 10 years?
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Post by cowtown » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:00 pm

see if he wants to do house cleaning for Manch Vegas
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Lol: The Meth Farm (Or Trailer Porn)

Post by WhosieWho » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:01 pm

This is not good advice.
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Post by EMG » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:02 pm

At 18 he's got like 3 years left to become a boytoy for a millionaire.

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Re: L00ser Clique Advice

Post by Shavenhead » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:04 pm

Fuck this.
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Post by WhosieWho » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:07 pm

Is there any money in that? The Yoga-For-My-Vagina board recently had a cute daffy Bernie chick "teaching" a mindfulness class for $75 hr.

And doq-walker or handiman to the elderly could be side-gigs. When it's too cold out, for the naked, full moon sage-smudging ceremony ...

hey Shavenhead! varmints got to et

p.s. there's always the Army (and yes he's talked about that too)
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Post by Higgs Bossom » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:09 pm

Electrician. Not as physically demanding as carpentry or plumbing work.

Does he have any ambition and just does not know or realize the options available to him or is he a deadbeat type?

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"What should I do?" means what?

Post by WhosieWho » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:15 pm

Does he have any ambition and just does not know or realize the options available to him or is he a deadbeat type?
He's 18; there's that.
He does show up, but he's dim.
No hustle, no.
Clueless on options (well: we too. Different universe!)

He calls and asks stoopid questions like "Should I take the Saturday night shift?" that don't really make sense from context.
"What should I do?"
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Post by strife » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:20 pm

WhosieWho wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:07 pm

p.s. there's always the Army (and yes he's talked about that too)
Probably not. If he's been to prison, he's a convicted felon, a deal-breaker for enlistment.
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Re: L00ser Clique Advice

Post by EMG » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:24 pm

Does this line of 'work' never make you feel that people just do what they do? My own experiences taught me that outside influence is mostly inconsequential. I'm always happy to lend a helping hand or a bit of what I consider good advice to people I see going down the wrong path, but nothing in me feels like I will change anyone, unless they have already decided to change, at which point there are millions of positive paths and influences to follow, and then I am inconsequential.

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Post by Higgs Bossom » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:30 pm

The challenge is in getting someone who it seems like has only ever known surviving week to week to think in terms of a career. Young people in general, and then add in this guy's background, have trouble seeing the bigger picture or longer term view. I hope you can get him to open his mind to larger possibilities and encourage him to seek training in a trade. Not just in terms of getting a job, but to have a life. Good luck, and I hope he makes it.

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He wants to earn more money, have appt.

Post by WhosieWho » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:33 pm

EMG:
He has no idear how to get from Point A (shelter) to B (Own Life.)

People (addicts) definitely "do what they do" - and it's usually a Terrible Outcome. He came back from an o.d. and is 7 month clean.

Re: our 'work' (help)
No, we don't agree "that outside influence is mostly inconsequential" because Death, Crime and Misery. But you can believe whatever you want; free country and all that.
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Post by EMG » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:34 pm

Fair enough. Best of luck.

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Post by Lost Soul » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:37 pm

If he is dumb and lazy I would not recommend him being an electrician, operator, plumber or carpenter.

One option is to go to trucking school to get his Class A CDL. He has to pass a test and not get any DUIs etc., but truckers can be fat, dumb and lazy and still make six figures. Also, there is a budding trucker shortage in the US, at least until they perfect the self-driving truck.
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Post by DianaHaddad » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:49 pm

What about community college style training to be an IT support desk tech? Or something in the allied healthcare field? Growth industries and all.

See here for example: https://bhcc.edu/academics/departments/
Xray tech, etc.
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Um, think BEDPANS ... Orderly Jelly!

Post by WhosieWho » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:15 pm

He mentioned a kind of nursing job we didn't know, "Sanitation"? We replied "That sounds like cleaning bedpans!" Or maybe it's scrubbing Boomers' *ssholes? Urggh.

btw 'wiping off bodily fluids' isn't so different from the dangerous part of porn, without the pleasure.
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Re: L00ser Clique Advice

Post by cuchulainn » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:16 am

Truckers won’t have jobs for long. He should marry Kylie Jenner.

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Post by dBrother » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:41 am

Trucks are not going to go driverless that soon, come back here in ten years and there will still be drivers behind the wheel.
It is a job that will put him in proximity to meth though.
Whosie said further up he aspired to looking after old people in nursing homes, or the disabled , why not encourage him to do this, its shit work and i wouldn't do it for quids, but people do do it and find some type of satisfaction out of it..

Hearing him described it sounds like the people I see that work in the community based care homes for the severely disabled, safe job, big future, until society starts just euthanasing the old and disabled I s'pose.

Which will probably happen about the same time trucks go driverless
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Post by cummy » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:23 am

he'll fit right in here... the TSA.

https://www.tsa.gov/about/jobs-at-tsa

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Post by Lost Soul » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:23 am

cummy wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:23 am
he'll fit right in here... the TSA.

https://www.tsa.gov/about/jobs-at-tsa
I was meaning to add, any low-level bureaucratic job is a perfect goal for the dumb and lazy- see Ereich.
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