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Post by 5waldos » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:33 pm

^that is so true

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Post by fishface » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:09 am

Shit I just read that one of the holes they have to get through is only 38cm wide. I will re-read that again to make sure I have that right but if so...hell.

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Post by k2w3 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:11 am

That Stuff article? Interesting read. That Aussie Dr and diver is a top bloke.
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Post by fishface » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:20 am

Yep. Although I note that the article (plus others) seem to swap between saying the boys were the four weakest and the four strongest. So I have no idea about that.

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Post by EMG » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:31 am

I love night dives AND confined space dives.

Don’t think I would after nine days in a cave though. Or for my first dive.

Hope they get the rest of them out today.

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Post by Moethebartender » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:18 am

Someone on one of the SEA forums I peruse has posted that one of the four that were rescued was the coach. This has since been confirmed by the Bangkok Post:
Three were boys on the football team and the fourth was their coach, Ekapol Chantawong, 25. He was reportedly among the first extracted because he was in the worst conditions because he had given the boys his share of the group’s meagre food supply before they were found.
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Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:39 am

That is quite a surprise but makes some sense. Suggests that they may also have extracted first the weaker boys. Wonder who is staying with them now?

Just wish they would get back to it- and if it is anxiety provoking for me I cannot imagine what it has to be like for the parents, families, and all those closer to them,

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Post by DianaHaddad » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:42 am

I seem to remember that when they rescued the Chilean miners, they started with someone who was strong and healthy. That way they tested out the whole process, without any additional complications. Then they went with the weaker people who needed rescue, and finished up with the stronger and healthier people who remained.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:17 am

I'm hearing the adult is not part of the ones already released.

Although malnutritioned he has said he will be the last to leave, and has written a letter to apologise to the parents (of course you would feel guilty, regardless)

That's from BBC news live.

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Post by andybox » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:05 am

Yeah the coach gave all his food to the young boys and literally went 9 days without food. He’d be very weak.

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Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:07 am

SD that was what I had heard. I think I will sit back and accept that we are being told almost nothing at all and that rumors are flying wildly.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:51 am

I hope the boy in the England top was one of the 4.

He should probably stay in defence

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Post by andybox » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:30 am

FIFA have invited all the boys and the coach to the World Cup final, if they get out in time and are fit enough to travel.

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Post by rezuar » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:58 am

I just woke up and hoped for more good news. Ah well.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:05 am

There is. They are underway again.

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Post by DCComic » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:52 am

andybox wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:30 am
FIFA have invited all the boys and the coach to the World Cup final, if they get out in time and are fit enough to travel.
Shamelessly exploiting their trouble for a little self-promotion.
Ffs.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:58 am

Did you miss the title of the OP?

Has bliss ended?

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Post by rezuar » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:06 am

DCComic wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:52 am
andybox wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:30 am
FIFA have invited all the boys and the coach to the World Cup final, if they get out in time and are fit enough to travel.
Shamelessly exploiting their trouble for a little self-promotion.
Ffs.
I, for one, think it´s a lovely gesture. The boys will be over the moon for it.
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Post by desertstorm » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:12 am

I don't have a strong opinion about the FIFA invitation, but I hope against hope it won't turn into a media circus with the boys, it's not good for their mental health to get too much media attention, and it's disrespectful to the (family of) Thai navy seal who died in the operation.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:14 am

I don't think it would be enough enforced trip.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

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Post by DCComic » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:18 am

Don’t be so naive.
McDonalds have offered the boys free Cheeseburgers for life.
Marlboro have given them free tabs.
Boris fucking Jonhson would like to take them on a personally guided tour of his Brexit.

Tney’re not out yet.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:22 am

Thanks for the update!

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Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:30 am

Fifth boy now confirmed out.

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Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:39 am

I know it is not the top priority but with millions watching around the world, you would think that they could have someone at the mouth of the cave to confirm immediately when a child emerges and that they are alive. Better than the hodgepodge of reporting that everyone is having to rely on. And the officials felt the need to chastise the press yesterday.

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Post by DCComic » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:41 am

5waldos wrote:
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And the officials felt the need to chastise the press yesterday.
Good.
Intrusive fuckers.
Our prurient 'need to know' is a sideshow.
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Post by erkat » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:43 am

Happy to wait for the confirmations and let the parents find out first, before the media swoop on them if the news were to be bad.

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Post by shilgia » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:49 am

Not sure if this is a false rumor, too, but the press is reporting that not even the parents are being told who is out and who is still in.

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Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:54 am

I’ve read the same and it was (supposedly) a quote from one of the fathers. Really not sure what that is about.

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Post by VinnyD » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:55 am

5waldos wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:39 am
I know it is not the top priority but with millions watching around the world, you would think that they could have someone at the mouth of the cave to confirm immediately when a child emerges and that they are alive. Better than the hodgepodge of reporting that everyone is having to rely on. And the officials felt the need to chastise the press yesterday.
What difference does it make if you find out immediately or a couple of hours later?

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Post by EMG » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:06 am

I've seen about a dozen cave diving videos being shared on Facebook now, all claiming to be of the incident, but I'm not sure if any of them are from the actual site. I'd guess not.

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Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:06 am

We are all anxiously awaiting good news. True in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t matter but it is human nature. Besides what is happening is that much false information is being put out. I suppose we could all just ignore it all and wait till the end of the week and read the summary. You are welcome to do that if you like- most of us aren’t built that way.

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Post by rezuar » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:10 am

What waldos said. I just want to know that all trapped boys and their teacher are out and well.
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Post by VinnyD » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:12 am

That explains why you want immediate reports. It doesn't explain what difference it would make.

Which would you rather have: Child brought out at 8 AM and you find out at noon, or child not brought out until noon, but you find out immediately? In either case you find out at the same time.

I think that's a good guess, EMG.

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Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:15 am

Reports now coming out of sixth boy coming out. The Guardian has an excellent live feed.

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Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:20 am

If it doesn’t make sense to you it doesn’t. It is not a logical thing but an emotional thing. Nevertheless there are now reports of another child being brought out now- and the world simultaneously cheers.

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Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:21 am

Now confirmed.

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Post by VinnyD » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:25 am

Waldos, I am happy they are getting out, and still keeping fingers crossed. But I am OK with some delay while they check condition, notify families, make sure all the media find out simultaneously, etc.

In other news from Thailand, the death toll from the tourist boat sinking off Phuket is now at 41 and expected to rise.

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Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:26 am

Can’t google this without losing my link but is is ‘bated’ breath or ‘baited’ breath?

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Post by VinnyD » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:28 am

Bated = abated, halting.

Although you hear about the cat who ate Limburger cheese and waited by the mousehole with baited breath.

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Football team and coach found alive

Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:29 am

Vinny they aren’t telling the parents and as it is the press is doing their own confirming from multiple sources/ some more reliable than others. And other than a very general statement we still have no information about health.

I guess the whole world cheering together has a greater impact in the cosmos than cheers dribbling out here and there. And for sure the world could use a bit of gold news.
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Post by VinnyD » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:32 am

In any case, to be honest I never expected them to found alive after being missing for more than a week. So that any have survived and are out is great news. I can wait to hear news like that.

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Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:40 am

So no difference to you - We just found the kids all alive!!! And Last week all the football team was found alive.

Okay.

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Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:59 am

And to clarify the lack of clarity- some sources are reporting 7 out some 6 out. Suspect it is 6. But that is my guess.

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Post by DCComic » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:02 pm

It's a great story so far - nail biting edge of your seat stuff - real human drama with bravery, jeopardy and sacrifice.
But who would it harm if the press took a step back and waited for events to be clear and confirmed before they spread their stories?
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Post by VinnyD » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:03 pm

I would rather hear a week from now that they were all alive than find out now that some of them were not.

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Post by 2wilzgood » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:05 pm

NPR broadcasts, "Four more boys out, bringing the total to eight having been rescued. "
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Post by 2wilzgood » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:07 pm

"Reuters and CNN report a seventh and eighth boy being rescued, citing witnesses. The Guardian is trying to confirm these reports."
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Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:11 pm

That would be great news if true. Waiting with bated breath.

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Post by jessica_fletcher » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:13 pm

VinnyD wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:03 pm
I would rather hear a week from now that they were all alive than find out now that some of them were not.
Yeah I'm not really fussed with the constant ANOTHER ONE IS OUT! Updates.
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Oops.

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Post by 5waldos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:15 pm

VinnyD wrote:
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I would rather hear a week from now that they were all alive than find out now that some of them were not.
That is not the issue Vinny. In both cases they will either be all alive or some not. The timing of the announcement does not impact that.

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