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Post by ben_hanscombe » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:43 pm

I'm not doing this just to say I have.
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Post by Lincoln » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:19 pm

Some of my favourite travel experiences have been when i've washed up in a place where there's nothing to do and not many people around...so those photos of Aktau remind me of "nothing" towns i've been to ,they kind of force you to search out something decent so you end up making more of an effort...you focus more on the people you meet etc...sometimes in places like that you can just sit in cafe/restaurant all day reading a book....sometimes when there's fcuk all to see/do it forces you to slow down.

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Post by Bill Barilko » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:36 pm

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In Almaty I particularly enjoyed the "Museum of Kazakh Folk Instruments" in which I was one of the only visitors and was given a personal tour by distinguished local folk musician Abylev who played various instruments ....

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Re: Trip update: Kazakhstan

Post by GLimpet » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:40 pm

Oh, that looks like him.

Abylai, I remember now. Not Abylev.

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Post by Flora » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:55 pm

Mash just on holiday being a tourist in Georgia.

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Re: Trip update: Kazakhstan

Post by ben_hanscombe » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:30 pm

ben_hanscombe wrote:
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I'm not doing this just to say I have.
Maybe to say to myself that I have.

Kazakhstan isn't exactly fun in the standard sense, but there's still satisfaction for me in "because it's there" travel. I've felt good here since I've relaxed into it a bit.
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Re: Trip update: Kazakhstan

Post by ben_hanscombe » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:41 pm

I didn't relax much in Atyrau. It made me nervous. I didn't explore all that much bit I'm unconvinced I missed much. The top attraction listed on TripAdvisor was a fairly ordinary-looking mosque.

Here's the river, from the Asian side.

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Re: Trip update: Kazakhstan

Post by ben_hanscombe » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:47 pm

Here's the river again, from the Astana bar where I stopped for a couple of beers.

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I should have had dinner here, but I didn't. I was staying at a business hotel with three restaurants attached, which was good for me because I wanted to have a coupe of drinks with dinner and not have to worry about getting home afterwards. Unfortunately, two of the three were shut the day I was there and the third shut two hours earlier than advertised, five minutes before I arrived.

So I ate dinner at the next nearest place to my hotel, which was a Burger King that had run out of Whoppers. I was very sad.
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Post by Bill Barilko » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:51 pm

GLimpet wrote:
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Oh, that looks like him. Abylai, I remember now. Not Abylev.Thanks for that Bill.
At your service-I saved that video since the player is So Good-great vocalist and a linguist as well.

FWIW There are parts of Kazakhstan that have stunning landscapes like the Tien Shan but OP isn't there quite yet.
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Re: Trip update: Kazakhstan

Post by ben_hanscombe » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:53 pm

The next day I got a share taxi to Uralsk, also known as Oral depending on who you ask. More of the same scenery, but this time, from a car!

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With, as Scrubb says, occasional weird little villages.

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That looks like eastern Colorado.

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Re: Trip update: Kazakhstan

Post by ben_hanscombe » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:57 pm

It was only five and a half hours. Fuck all really.

I'd booked a room in a hostel but they were full when I arrived so they put me up in a random apartment in a tower block half a mile away. I love it when you chance across accommodation that's completely different from the usual ho(s)tel room.

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Post by ben_hanscombe » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:01 pm

You'll be pleased to know it's not as hard to make Uralsk look pretty as it is to make Aktau look pretty.

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Post by ExPat From Hell » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:10 pm

Do you see a lot of athletic activity? That river looked like you could have a nice run for instance.
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Post by GLimpet » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:26 pm

It's known as Oral in Kazakh, if that helps.

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Post by Troll_Handle » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:29 pm

Congratulations on at least trying a beer, even if it did turn out to be quite shit. Love the update!

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Re: Trip update: Kazakhstan

Post by lolasf » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:56 pm

ben_hanscombe wrote:
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With, as Scrubb says, occasional weird little villages.

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For some reason, I love the look of that. I would have loved to see it up close.
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Re: Trip update: Kazakhstan

Post by ben_hanscombe » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:58 am

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Do you see a lot of athletic activity? That river looked like you could have a nice run for instance.
Don't think I saw a single jogger in Atyrau.
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Post by ben_hanscombe » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:00 am

lolasf wrote: For some reason, I love the look of that. I would have loved to see it up close.
Me too, absolutely. Truth be told it's about the most central Asian looking thing I've seen so far in central Asia. Everything else has just been greater Russia or oil town anywhere.

I like greater Russia, though. I have good memories from my last trip.
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Re: Trip update: Kazakhstan

Post by lolasf » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:23 am

It reminded me of the villages off the highway on the way back from Mole Park in Ghana. I didn't want to see anything but a bed at that point, but they were still interesting.
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Re: Trip update: Kazakhstan

Post by GLimpet » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:58 pm

ben_hanscombe wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:47 pm
Here's the river again, from the Astana bar where I stopped for a couple of beers.

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My matching view from 2003, a bit further up toward the Chagala:

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Post by GLimpet » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:59 pm

Please tell me the beach umbrellas are still there.

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Post by leela » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:21 pm

He can't. He's been band. Or at least he's not able to log on and the email he requested to reset a password hasn't been sent.

Oh well. It was nice while it lasted.

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Huh?

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Post by Klara » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:47 pm

Ben's been band????111!!!!

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Post by GLimpet » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:09 pm

leela wrote:
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He can't. He's been band. Or at least he's not able to log on and the email he requested to reset a password hasn't been sent.

Oh well. It was nice while it lasted.
I would treat that as a message from God to get off the fucking internet and do some work.

Not applicable in ben's case I guess.

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Post by ben_hanscombe » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:51 pm

Nah, I'm back. God gave up sending me messages to get off the internet in 2007.
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ben_hanscombe wrote:
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lino (vinyl) floor??

are you going to see the Aral Sea?

that's my main sight to see in kazahkstan, if I ever get there.

I guess the abandoned desert boats may be gone to scrap now..

and what Lola said about that funny looking little village, love to just go in have a look at a place like that.
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Post by GLimpet » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:00 am

The floordrobe appears well laid-out though.

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The floordrobe appears well laid-out though.
I thought that was the dryer.
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Re: Trip update: Kazakhstan

Post by lolasf » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:27 pm

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are you going to see the Aral Sea?
I believe he's headed there (with Leela) in the next day or so. I'd never heard of the Aral Sea before he told me, sounds kinda interesting.
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Post by dBrother » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:32 pm

Yeah, I'd love to sea it...
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Post by veronica_inheels » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:50 pm

. i feel dirty just looking at that apartment
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Post by ben_hanscombe » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:23 pm

Being less hot and less scary than Aktau or Atyrau, Uralsk is a lot better for walking around than either. So that's what I did.

It's got some pretty architecture. Not up to BulletPark standards, but nice enough.

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My apartment was just off the main road through town. The yellow building above and the church I posted a couple of days ago are on the main road in the centre of town. It gets steadily more run down as you go further south.

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Though still kinda pretty in places.

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Eventually, marooned way out of the centre, you get to the town's cathedral.

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Then you turn round, because what else is there to do.
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Post by Flora » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:23 pm

I wrote my BEng dissertation about irrigation 'issues' and the Aral Sea. 20 years ago. When it was probably just still a sea.

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Post by ben_hanscombe » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:26 pm

I suppose you could go and look at the war memorial.

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And from there it's a short walk to the Ural river, where you can again stand on one continent and look at another.

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You could take photos of the Red Mosque, which looks like anything but a mosque.

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And you'll probably run across some weird shit on the way, like a pretend British phone box...

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...or a demo headstone outside a stone mason's shop by the cemetery, advertising his skills with a depiction of two authentic Kazakh film stars.

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I suspect there are rivers of shit when it rains.

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Post by ben_hanscombe » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:38 pm

veronica_inheels wrote:. i feel dirty just looking at that apartment
No need. I only saw cockroaches in the kitchen and the bathroom.
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lolasf wrote:
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are you going to see the Aral Sea?
I believe he's headed there (with Leela) in the next day or so. I'd never heard of the Aral Sea before he told me, sounds kinda interesting.
This is Correct. We're taking an Aral Sea tour on Saturday, overnight in the desert. Uzbek side rather than Kazakh side; to my knowledge the Uzbek side is still fucked.
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Post by ExPat From Hell » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:10 am

What type of places are you staying in? You mentioned apartment? How are you trip planning?

Are you in touch with Leela? What's the plan for your rendezvous?
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rider5 wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:55 pm
That looks like eastern Colorado.
The second pic, with the town, looks like Niger.
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Post by leela » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:27 am

I won't speak for ben on his beloved thread, as I'm sure he'll be starting a new chapter for Uzbekistan. But the rendezvous went very smoothly, ex-pat.
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Re: Trip update: Kazakhstan

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ExPat From Hell wrote:
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What type of places are you staying in? You mentioned apartment? How are you trip planning?

Are you in touch with Leela? What's the plan for your rendezvous?
Leela and I met yesterday morning in Tashkent. I'm a little behind on my trip report.

I'm trying not to plan ahead too much - usually only a day or two in advance. This whole route through Kazakhstan was planned about six hours in advance of the train to Atyrau leaving.
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Are you staying in hotels or is there an Airbnb-like alternative?
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What are the metal tubes in those photos?
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This is the kind of Kazkh I want to see pics of


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Post by ben_hanscombe » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:42 am

ExPat From Hell wrote:
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Are you staying in hotels or is there an Airbnb-like alternative?
Hotels and hostels; I'm not doing AirBnB. I know this isn't something you're supposed to admit on here, but I'm not above sleeping in hostel dorms if the place I want to stay doesn't have private rooms available.

The apartment thing in Uralsk only came about because the hostel where I'd got a reservation was unexpectedly full. I think the apartment was just a vacant place thru kept for when that happened because there was no sign that anyone lived there.
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Post by ben_hanscombe » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:55 am

This is the lobby of my place in Atyrau. Nothing says budget travel like a jewellery shop in the lobby.Image
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Post by ben_hanscombe » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:58 am

snowgirl wrote:What are the metal tubes in those photos?
I confess I've no idea. But they've been really common since I got to the former Soviet Union.
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