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Post by TheRedWoman » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:25 pm

I came into the office this morning and found this on my desk from our CEO
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I like nice things. OK, I love nice things. But, I personally wouldn't spend this much on wine. I spend good money on safe place to live, safe car/safe transportation, Ok I like watches and decent clothes...I suppose I have my limits.

I'd have settled for 'good work' and a starbucks card just the same. Not to seem ungrateful. Grandiose gestures make me uneasy even when sincere.

Bah. Soooooo....who wants wine?
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Post by DCComic » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:26 pm

Sell it then.
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Post by dragon » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:28 pm

what'd you do to deserve it?
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Post by TheRedWoman » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:32 pm

dragon wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:28 pm
what'd you do to deserve it?
Apparently I'm good at my job and pulled off something at the very end of Q4 that made a huge difference...plus I was back and forth between SF and Toronto..which made it harder..

Meh. ***shrugs shoulders*** dunno.

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Post by Annotated » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:38 pm

dragon wrote:
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what'd you do to deserve it?
Same thing she did for me.

But I gave her a Schlitz and a pat on the head.

And she's not lying - she was happy with that.
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Post by northern_goddess » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:39 pm

I would share it with you but who knows if it even tastes that good. I would have preferred the cash. ;)
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Post by TheRedWoman » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:40 pm

northern_goddess wrote:
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I would share it with you but who knows if it even tastes that good. I would have preferred the cash. ;)
hahahahahah. Cash is KING oh, and it's 350USD so much more in Canadian coins.
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Re: 350 bottle of wine

Post by leela » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:41 pm

I'd sell it if I could.
Pass the wine...

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Post by northern_goddess » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:41 pm

Google tells me that is $440 in Canadian pesos.
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Post by northern_goddess » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:42 pm

leela wrote:
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I'd sell it if I could.
Yah, but if your boss found out that would not be cool. It must be consumed. C'est la vie.
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leela wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:41 pm
I'd sell it if I could.
Really?
I don't think I could sell something someone gave me even if it was worth a lot.

$440 Canadian pesos -that's good pesos.

So expensive wine piss-up in SF then.
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Post by section8 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:48 pm

Trade it for 100 bottles of Night Train.
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section8 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:48 pm
Trade it for 100 bottles of Night Train.
Do I have to google that?
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Post by lolasf » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:51 pm

I'd love something like that, though to honest I know it would be wasted on me. I'm no wine expert.
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Post by leela » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:52 pm

TheRedWoman wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:44 pm
leela wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:41 pm
I'd sell it if I could.
Really?
I don't think I could sell something someone gave me even if it was worth a lot.
I could if it was a work related thank you. Not so much if it was from a good friend or relative who'd taken time to choose me the exact gift (they thought) I'd like.
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Post by k2w3 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:52 pm

Drink it.
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Post by leela » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:55 pm

Years ago, a WTer sent me some expensive wine that a client had given to her. I think it was around £80 worth. The gesture was kind and great fun, and I drank it of course. But I couldn't have told it from an £8 one.
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Post by Iolar » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:58 pm

€500 here. I'd drink it, but as you aren't an oenophile I'd regift or sell it.

In the last five years I've become more and more interested in wine. I bought a Coravin a while ago, so that I could improve my cellar and enjoy a glass of wine without having to go through a €100 bottle* in a weekend.

*alcohol is expensive here - spending €100 on a bottle of wine isn't too difficult.
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Post by GLimpet » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:00 am

I'll pay packing and postage if you send it to me.

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Post by trixie » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:01 am

What is it?

I like wine. A nice bottle of wine would not be wasted on me.

It isn't easy to resell. At that price point the buyer wants a few guarentees, like how it was stored.

I'd just drink it.
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Post by trixie » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:02 am

Sorry. I clicked the link now I see what it is. Drink it. You won't regret it.
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Post by section8 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:02 am

Mix it with some 7-Up on a hot summers day.
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Post by VinnyD » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:06 am

TDBT.

Don't know about Canada, but in the US there isn't any way for an unlicensed individual to sell alcohol legally. And there is no such thing as a cheap one-bottle license. I have bought some at yard sales but it wasn't legal.

Willysnout, who used to post on TTUSA, once said something intelligent about this sort of thing. He was speaking of hotel rooms, but it has wider application. A $100 room will not be twice as good as a $50 room, but it will be better. And the higher you go in price, the smaller the difference will be between one room and a more expensive one, but still the $2000 room will have things that the $1800 room will not. If those things matter to you (say if you want a grand piano rather than an upright), and you have the money, then the $2000 room may be worth it to you.

Don't make the mistake of saving this forever hoping for an occasion big enough. Judging from the reviews at that site, it may not get any better than it is right now, and will deteriorate starting in ten years or so even with perfect storage conditions, which you probably don't have.

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Post by madmonday » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:13 am

TheRedWoman wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:32 pm
dragon wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:28 pm
what'd you do to deserve it?
Apparently I'm good at my job and pulled off something at the very end of Q4 that made a huge difference...plus I was back and forth between SF and Toronto..which made it harder..

Meh. ***shrugs shoulders*** dunno.

This stuff brings out my impostor syndrome.
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Post by 5waldos » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:24 am

Just be sure you breathe it for long enough and find some perfectly matched food/missed what it is exactly. Then poor four glasses and I will offer you a toast as I sip.

Wish someone thought I was doing such a good job.

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Post by TheRedWoman » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:30 am

5waldos wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:24 am
Just be sure you breathe it for long enough and find some perfectly matched food/missed what it is exactly. Then poor four glasses and I will offer you a toast as I sip.

Wish someone thought I was doing such a good job.
I'm sure someone does.
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Post by ben_hanscombe » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:10 am

leela wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:41 pm
I'd sell it if I could.
Would you? Colour me mildly surprised.

I’d drink it. How else am I going to find out what a $350 bottle of wine tastes like? There’s no-one I could regift it to who wouldn’t be weirded out, and if I sold it the money would just disappear unnoticed into my current account unless I spent it on something dumb and extravagant like, shit, I dunno, a $350 bottle of wine.
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Post by Steve_in_Exile » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:13 am

That is roughly $345 more than what I normally spend on a bottle of wine.

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Post by k2w3 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:23 am

It's worth drinking even as a story to tell the grandkids. Think of it as an opportunity to do something you wouldn't normally do - ie the perfect gift.
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Post by guruwil » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:38 am

$350 is cheap for that one. It is a stunning wine, however It is not $250 better than $100 wines and it isnt $300 better than $50 wines. Since it was free drink it with a great steak and enjoy it. I wouldnt buy it for drinking, maybe as an investment but they haven’t been increasing in value as much these last few years either. You buy it to impress other people.
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Post by temporaryhandle2 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:07 am

I doubt very much I'll ever taste Grange. Ever. In my whole life.

Wine is made for drinking. If you don't like wine, send it to me.

Call it a charitable donation and claim a tax deduction. :P

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Post by madmonday » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:14 am

Actually keep it until next year....will be back in the US for another road trip!
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Post by temporaryhandle2 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:16 am

So not fair! You get to have America and the Grange?

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Post by Steve_in_Exile » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:26 am

From the link in the OP. My God what a load of bullshit.
96 points Wine Enthusiast
This wine, Australia’s most famous, is literally black. Aroma of sweet charred American oak dominates, with associated vanilla. Underneath is pepper, tobacco, spice and blackberry; complex and beautiful. Tremendous extract, marvelously thick like fruit purée, enormous and bone dry. The finish lasts forever. A huge, effusive wine that needs 15 years to settle down. 89% Shiraz and 11% Cabernet Sauvignon. (10/1999)


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*Top 100 Wines of 1999* A magnificent edifice of a wine, elegant and refined in structure but dripping with flavor--a virtual cascade of plum, black cherry, blackberry, anise, pepper and exotic spices that lingers on the finish; this just doesn't quit. (HS) (11/1999)


91 points Robert Parker's Wine Advocate
This is the first vintage where Grange went to a bottle with laser-etched identification numbers to preclude the possibility of fraudulent bottles. The wine, a blend of 89% Shiraz and 11% Cabernet Sauvignon, shows some toasty oak mixed with notes of root vegetables, damp earth, blackberry liqueur, prune, and licorice. The wine is dense, full-bodied, not terribly complex in the mouth, but layered and rich. I would not be surprised to see the rating on this wine improve as this youthful Grange continues to evolve. Anticipated maturity: 2004-2020. (RP) (1/2002)


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89% Shiraz, 11% Cabernet Sauvignon. Barossa Valley, McLaren Vale, Coonawarra. 18 months in new American oak hogsheads. Chocolate, milk, blackberry jam, cinnamon and clove spice. Supreme intensity. Very sweet and ripe, with velvety tannin and smooth texture. Perfumed finish with delicacy despite the intense fruit. 18/20 points. Drink to 2030. (RH) (7/2016)

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temporaryhandle2 wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:07 am
I doubt very much I'll ever taste Grange. Ever. In my whole life.

Wine is made for drinking. If you don't like wine, send it to me.

Call it a charitable donation and claim a tax deduction. :P
I'd share it with you. You deserve it.

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Apparently I also had the choice of a $650 dollar bottle....if I can work miracles for Q1, I'll take the 650 dollar bottle one and 40% raise.
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Post by nycfellow » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:27 am

Yeah, I'd sell it, if I could. That stuff is way overrated. I just googled the current price of what I was guessing was the most expensive wine I've ever had - it's now $9000. The one I tasted was off, because it was so old, and tasted like crap. Please note I did not pay a cent toward it. Friend with too much money.

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Steve_in_Exile wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:26 am
From the link in the OP. My God what a load of bullshit.
96 points Wine Enthusiast
This wine, Australia’s most famous, is literally black. Aroma of sweet charred American oak dominates, with associated vanilla. Underneath is pepper, tobacco, spice and blackberry; complex and beautiful. Tremendous extract, marvelously thick like fruit purée, enormous and bone dry. The finish lasts forever. A huge, effusive wine that needs 15 years to settle down. 89% Shiraz and 11% Cabernet Sauvignon. (10/1999)


96 points Wine Spectator
*Top 100 Wines of 1999* A magnificent edifice of a wine, elegant and refined in structure but dripping with flavor--a virtual cascade of plum, black cherry, blackberry, anise, pepper and exotic spices that lingers on the finish; this just doesn't quit. (HS) (11/1999)


91 points Robert Parker's Wine Advocate
This is the first vintage where Grange went to a bottle with laser-etched identification numbers to preclude the possibility of fraudulent bottles. The wine, a blend of 89% Shiraz and 11% Cabernet Sauvignon, shows some toasty oak mixed with notes of root vegetables, damp earth, blackberry liqueur, prune, and licorice. The wine is dense, full-bodied, not terribly complex in the mouth, but layered and rich. I would not be surprised to see the rating on this wine improve as this youthful Grange continues to evolve. Anticipated maturity: 2004-2020. (RP) (1/2002)


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89% Shiraz, 11% Cabernet Sauvignon. Barossa Valley, McLaren Vale, Coonawarra. 18 months in new American oak hogsheads. Chocolate, milk, blackberry jam, cinnamon and clove spice. Supreme intensity. Very sweet and ripe, with velvety tannin and smooth texture. Perfumed finish with delicacy despite the intense fruit. 18/20 points. Drink to 2030. (RH) (7/2016)
LOL. I read it with similar reaction. I used to be a red wine connoisseur-then I started get headaches/migraines and gave it up.
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Post by TheRedWoman » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:32 am

Why would I sell it or why would anyone unless one really needs $350??? Selling it is ridiculous. It's 350 bucks...I'd sooner give it away as a re-gift.
Selling it is kind of tacky.
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Post by 5waldos » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:33 am

It is very possible that your boss has a wine cellar and this bottle has been in it for a long time- when the wine was new or nearly so and cost far lest. At least possible that he doesn't even know exactly what the going rate would be today.

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5waldos wrote:
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It is very possible that your boss has a wine cellar and this bottle has been in it for a long time- when the wine was new or nearly so and cost far lest. At least possible that he doesn't even know exactly what the going rate would be today.
He doesn't. He's 30 yrs old running a 300 million dollar company, living with room-mates and loves karaoke, he's a brilliant engineer...but not some sophisticated wine collector. Plus, I know he picked this out for me based on the following random convo:

Him: 'hey Red, random questions... do you drink?'.
Me: yes...I like Australian reds when I indulge.
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Re: $350 bottle of wine

Post by Wilster » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:44 am

Excellent documentary movie, Sour Grapes, I downloaded on my iPad for a long-ass flight not too long ago:




I'm with Steve on the wine I drink; sure, I can get up to the $15, $30, maybe $50 bottle of wine, but then it becomes all wasted on me pretty much after that; and I'm talkin' wholesale, not those prices in a restaurant mind. Forget two-buck Chuck since they raised their prices above $2.00 now. I guess I'm rolling in dough now; I have no problem paying for a BV twin-bottle-pack at Costco for $10.

Also, a bit of a misnomer about reds (usually, wouldn't apply to whites) that you gotta wait for a red to be better with time. It doesn't necessarily become better, just different over time with age. A decent red will ebb and flow with time sure, but it just depends on what you're looking for.
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Re: $350 bottle of wine

Post by 5waldos » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:46 am

Oh well- it was a guess. But then the wine is nearly as old as he is. He should have done a real bit and gotten one from his year of birth. Sounds like a nice boss to have around.

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Post by nycfellow » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:48 am

Mmm, well, depends on the wine, Wilster. A one year old premier cru Bordeaux will actually taste bad. How long it will keep getting better will depend on the vintage. But lots of reds are fine to drink young.

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Mmm, well, depends on the wine, Wilster. A one year old premier cru Bordeaux will actually taste bad. How long it will keep getting better will depend on the vintage. But lots of reds are fine to drink young.
How could the premier Bordeaux taste "bad?" I mean what is your definition of "bad?" Sure, it may not reach it's full potential of that crush (vintage), but "bad?"
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Re: $350 bottle of wine

Post by section8 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:52 am

I’ll trade you 50 pounds of salmon fillets for it. I won’t have them until early July though.
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Re: $350 bottle of wine

Post by nycfellow » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:59 am

No, actually bad. Tannins will make your mouth pucker. After two years it will probably be fine to drink, but not anywhere near peak.

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Re: $350 bottle of wine

Post by TheRedWoman » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:09 am

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Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:48 am
Mmm, well, depends on the wine, Wilster. A one year old premier cru Bordeaux will actually taste bad. How long it will keep getting better will depend on the vintage. But lots of reds are fine to drink young.
How could the premier Bordeaux taste "bad?" I mean what is your definition of "bad?" Sure, it may not reach it's full potential of that crush (vintage), but "bad?"
Wilster, NYcfellow is one of the biggest wine snobs ever! He used to laugh at me liking a Zinfandel.
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Re: $350 bottle of wine

Post by guruwil » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:10 am

Steve_in_Exile wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:26 am
From the link in the OP. My God what a load of bullshit.
96 points Wine Enthusiast
This wine, Australia’s most famous, is literally black. Aroma of sweet charred American oak dominates, with associated vanilla. Underneath is pepper, tobacco, spice and blackberry; complex and beautiful. Tremendous extract, marvelously thick like fruit purée, enormous and bone dry. The finish lasts forever. A huge, effusive wine that needs 15 years to settle down. 89% Shiraz and 11% Cabernet Sauvignon. (10/1999)


96 points Wine Spectator
*Top 100 Wines of 1999* A magnificent edifice of a wine, elegant and refined in structure but dripping with flavor--a virtual cascade of plum, black cherry, blackberry, anise, pepper and exotic spices that lingers on the finish; this just doesn't quit. (HS) (11/1999)


91 points Robert Parker's Wine Advocate
This is the first vintage where Grange went to a bottle with laser-etched identification numbers to preclude the possibility of fraudulent bottles. The wine, a blend of 89% Shiraz and 11% Cabernet Sauvignon, shows some toasty oak mixed with notes of root vegetables, damp earth, blackberry liqueur, prune, and licorice. The wine is dense, full-bodied, not terribly complex in the mouth, but layered and rich. I would not be surprised to see the rating on this wine improve as this youthful Grange continues to evolve. Anticipated maturity: 2004-2020. (RP) (1/2002)


Jancis Robinson
89% Shiraz, 11% Cabernet Sauvignon. Barossa Valley, McLaren Vale, Coonawarra. 18 months in new American oak hogsheads. Chocolate, milk, blackberry jam, cinnamon and clove spice. Supreme intensity. Very sweet and ripe, with velvety tannin and smooth texture. Perfumed finish with delicacy despite the intense fruit. 18/20 points. Drink to 2030. (RH) (7/2016)
It’s no more bullshit than any other wine review, I actually have a half dozen bottles of this year Grange (fell off the back of a truck, Dont ask, but I certainly didn’t pay for it) and I would say that the reviews are as accurate as any other reviews are. I have drunk quite a few Granges over the years, and I haven’t paid for any of them. It is without doubt a lovely wine but seriously when you get past the good wines in the $50-100 range it would take a more sophistaced palate than mine to tell you that it was worth another $250. It is also well known to be a wine that has the legs if well stored to continue to improve for 10-20 years.
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Re: $350 bottle of wine

Post by Wilster » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:11 am

nycfellow wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:59 am
No, actually bad. Tannins will make your mouth pucker. After two years it will probably be fine to drink, but not anywhere near peak.
Well, the tannins are not going to disappear out of the bottle; if you mean they will be muffled, mellowed or whatever, then I "guess" you are right. And peak? There is never a precise window when all of that will happen; I mean one can predict, but man, don't wait forever.

Anyway, we are probably talkin' about much different wines ($$$-wise)...if you look at my doc link above, the whole industry can be fooled. My only point is that a wine, most wine doesn't have a sign-on date where it can't be enjoyed as-is, where-is. Sure, it will taste different, but not "bad."
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Re: $350 bottle of wine

Post by TheRedWoman » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:12 am

section8 wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:52 am
I’ll trade you 50 pounds of salmon fillets for it. I won’t have them until early July though.
That's a great offer! I might take you up on it if it's wild salmon. I went to buy fish at Whole Foods and bastards had FARMED salmon! Everyone knows farmed fish is shitty and not good for you. I can get wild salmon and wild rainbow trout (my favourite) in frozen Canada, I should be able to to get it in San Francisco.
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