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Post by OnTheBall » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:46 pm

veronica_inheels wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:31 pm
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So Polish investor is pissed off because Chinese investors are doing exactly the same thing as her.

Tough.
I am not a foreign investor. I am a local Canadian.
But it is perfectly legal for them to invest in Canada. It seems that instead of being annoyed at Vancouver becoming like Beijing, you should redirect your annoyance at your government. In 10 years time it could very well be Indians or another nationality , so focusing on the nationality of the investors seems rather pointless and hints at xenophobia. You are an investor and you're upset because of increased competition.

Tough.

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Post by OnTheBall » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:47 pm

Is Vancouver the only city in Canada?

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Post by veronica_inheels » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:51 pm

The only one where a buyer is decided by "a lottery system".
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Post by OnTheBall » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:53 pm

veronica_inheels wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:51 pm
The only one where a buyer is decided by "a lottery system".
So, again, maybe redirect your focus towards your government rather than the nationality of investors?

And maybe you should look at other cities in Canada if Vancouver is not conducive to investment
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Post by temporaryhandle2 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:54 pm

She'd be frothing at the mouth if the buyers were Jews.

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Post by BeatRaven » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:55 pm

Why not move to shitville like Eric64 and be done with this non-problem?

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Post by veronica_inheels » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:58 pm

You Australians limited china no?
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Post by OnTheBall » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:58 pm

I hear Whitehorse hasn't experienced the Chinese horde. Look into it.

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Post by veronica_inheels » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:59 pm

OnTheBall wrote:
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The only one where a buyer is decided by "a lottery system".
So, again, maybe redirect your focus towards your government rather than the nationality of investors?

And maybe you should look at other cities in Canada if Vancouver is not conducive to investment
The government here is hopeless.

I have more properties outside of Vancouver than you have fingers and toes.
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Post by veronica_inheels » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:01 pm

temporaryhandle2 wrote:
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She'd be frothing at the mouth if the buyers were Jews.
Jews and Chinese built vancouver.
Have you ever heard me complaining about Jews?
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Post by OnTheBall » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:03 pm

veronica_inheels wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:59 pm
OnTheBall wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:53 pm
veronica_inheels wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:51 pm
The only one where a buyer is decided by "a lottery system".
So, again, maybe redirect your focus towards your government rather than the nationality of investors?

And maybe you should look at other cities in Canada if Vancouver is not conducive to investment
The government here is hopeless.

I have more properties outside of Vancouver than you have fingers and toes.
Congratulations, but it doesn't change the fact that you are an investor bitching about increased competition, and that it seems like your competition has a lot more money than you.

Tough.

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Post by eric84 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:11 pm

veronica_inheels wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:43 pm
eric84 wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:41 pm
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Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:35 pm


Snowgirl, are you living under a rock? Vancouver is horrendous when it comes to real estate.
What kind of idiotic comment is "buy somewhere else"? Like where? China? Oops sorry hey they won't allow foreigners.
If its for investment purposes, then yeah, look elsewhere to park your money.
Love like those who don't have two pennies to rub together give out investment advice.
Hey you’re the one complaining about competing with he chinese
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Post by veronica_inheels » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:12 pm

You Neanderthal idiot.
I am not priced out
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:15 pm

Power to the people.

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Post by temporaryhandle2 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:16 pm

veronica_inheels wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:12 pm
You Neanderthal idiot.
I am not priced out
Shut the fuck up, then.

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Post by OnTheBall » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:20 pm

veronica_inheels wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:12 pm
You Neanderthal idiot.
I am not priced out
So again, why focus on the nationality of the investors and not on your government?

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Post by veronica_inheels » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:45 pm

Because one has to be a retard to consider a government as a solution to anything.
Idon't know how high on your pedestal a government is one ball but i have a government a bit below Chinese hordes in my value system.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/brit ... -1.4533520

See for yourself, our government is "doing everything to address the issues"
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Post by dBrother » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:48 pm

So non of you people are concerned that this is mostly crooked Chinese money whisked out of the homeland by the tax dodging Chinese elite?

Right..

I'm with vron, it's a bit fucked up when local bred vancouverites can't afford to buy into a home in their own city because of artificially inflated house prices caused by the Chinese super elite..

just telling them to go move to the sticks is fucked up advice.

But so long as the millionaire population keeps on exponentially increasing in a city with a finite real estate market them this is going to keep happening..

It's exactly the same situation in box hill.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:50 pm

A home is where you live yourself, you doughnut.

I have sympathy for first time buyers etc, not investors

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Post by BeatRaven » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:59 pm

The guy who bought my bullshit weaver's cottage in Suffolk got his money from selling his council flat. Oh, how he went on about how pretend-bad he felt.

When it comes to property, everyone's a greed hog.

I'm lucky. I can never sell because of the family and no way would I ever get a nicer place for any amount of money.

So call me Mr. High Road.

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Post by OnTheBall » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:08 am

veronica_inheels wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:45 pm
Because one has to be a retard to consider a government as a solution to anything.
Idon't know how high on your pedestal a government is one ball but i have a government a bit below Chinese hordes in my value system.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/brit ... -1.4533520

See for yourself, our government is "doing everything to address the issues"
One doesn't correspond to the other, genius. Just because your government is useless it doesn't then mean that the focus should shift to the nationality of the investors.

I agree though, that if you view your government as useless then it makes sense to bitch about the situation on an internet forum. Sounds productive.
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Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:48 pm
So non of you people are concerned that this is mostly crooked Chinese money whisked out of the homeland by the tax dodging Chinese elite?

Right..

I'm with vron, it's a bit fucked up when local bred vancouverites can't afford to buy into a home in their own city because of artificially inflated house prices caused by the Chinese super elite..

just telling them to go move to the sticks is fucked up advice.

But so long as the millionaire population keeps on exponentially increasing in a city with a finite real estate market them this is going to keep happening..

It's exactly the same situation in box hill.
Stephen_Dedalus wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:50 pm
A home is where you live yourself, you doughnut.

I have sympathy for first time buyers etc, not investors
I agree with SD (and now I feel dirty). At the very least, that dirty Chinese money is now circulating within the local economy. A bit of a consolation.

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Post by leela » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:21 am

In London the problem is that a huge proportion of homes sit empty, because foreign investors bought them, not to rent out, but to sit there until they could be flipped. So instead of builders creating homes for people, they've built more and more fancy apartments in order to make money from those foreign investors.
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Post by dBrother » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:30 am

they should be occupied Leela, London has a fairly good history of militant squatters taking over unoccupied real estate, what's gone wrong with the youth of today..
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:37 am

Its not only London, but across the country.
And not only by foreign investors.
From my limited knowledge, I believe it is a lot, lot better than it used to be.
As it was under Labour in the real boom year of the naughties.
Councils have the power to target houses which are long-term empty.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:39 am

I've never understood the concept of just wanting to cash out on capital appreciation when you could be earning rental income at the same time.
And you can play someone to manage it.

I was reading an article at the weekend where younger less well off people are paying a lower rent to housesit luxury apartments and/or ones in sought after areas.

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OnTheBall wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:07 pm
So Polish investor is pissed off because Chinese investors are doing exactly the same thing as her.

Tough.
OnTheBall wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:46 pm
veronica_inheels wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:31 pm
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Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:07 pm
So Polish investor is pissed off because Chinese investors are doing exactly the same thing as her.

Tough.
I am not a foreign investor. I am a local Canadian.
But it is perfectly legal for them to invest in Canada. It seems that instead of being annoyed at Vancouver becoming like Beijing, you should redirect your annoyance at your government. In 10 years time it could very well be Indians or another nationality , so focusing on the nationality of the investors seems rather pointless and hints at xenophobia. You are an investor and you're upset because of increased competition.

Tough.
OnTheBall wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:53 pm
veronica_inheels wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:51 pm
The only one where a buyer is decided by "a lottery system".
So, again, maybe redirect your focus towards your government rather than the nationality of investors?
She is incapable of not focusing on the identity of the investors. It really is that simple.

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Post by veronica_inheels » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:46 am

Ya, but you still can go and buy some new development in Sydney or London no?

Cause here, in this case, "a lottery " will decide if you got it or not.

The empty houses, the unavoidability is a different issue.
Many local people can't afford to buy or even rent.
How can one rent to local middle class hardworking nurses when one has a Chinese International study who will pay a year in advance ? Or a bigger profit running airb?

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Stephen_Dedalus wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:39 am
I've never understood the concept of just wanting to cash out on capital appreciation when you could be earning rental income at the same time.
And you can play someone to manage it.

I was reading an article at the weekend where younger less well off people are paying a lower rent to housesit luxury apartments and/or ones in sought after areas.
Happens here with Chinese investors just holding onto city apartments, leaving them empty.
One way they get absolute numbers of permanent vacancys is the fact that the water isn't connected.
Old family freinds have kids living in London, one of them actually has a plush Apartment there somewhere they are house sitting for a few quid a week to keep the squatters out.
Might be a convent up for redevelopment or something like that..
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Stephen_Dedalus wrote:
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I've never understood the concept of just wanting to cash out on capital appreciation when you could be earning rental income at the same time.
It's because you don't understand Chinese
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Post by BeatRaven » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:52 am

In Thailand, non-citizens can't buy property except for condo's. They can't own land.

Would people here support restricting non-citizens from buying property in their country?

That's what Vron is suggesting. At least it's a solution of sorts.

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veronica_inheels wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:46 am
Ya, but you still can go and buy some new development in Sydney or London no?

Cause here, in this case, "a lottery " will decide if you got it or not.
The Chinese market new Apartments directly to Chinese here, there's no way of avoiding the subject of nationality like some on here pathetically insist.

I can go to box hill today and take a photo of a stall in the middle of box hill central mall attended by Chinese, selling apartments to other Chinese, handing out real estate brochures written in Chinese..

I'll probably sell out to Chinese one day meself, whoever wants to pay the better dollar I guess..
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Post by veronica_inheels » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:54 am

No party will put it on their platform, they would be elected but Canada grovels at China's feet for trade.
Like Theresa May did last week
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Post by veronica_inheels » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:57 am

And Vancouver is about 30% white. When I went to London in the summer I had a culture shock- white people everywhere .

They vote. So there.
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BeatRaven wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:52 am
In Thailand, non-citizens can't buy property except for condo's. They can't own land.

Would people here support restricting non-citizens from buying property in their country?

That's what Vron is suggesting. At least it's a solution of sorts.
Non citizens can only buy newly built housing here, that's why the new apartment market is so hot with Chinese money, a couple of years ago i was looking at local box hill real estate and 2nd hand apartments only a couple of years old were suprisingly cheap at the time.
I suspect they are poorly built.

Once the get their PR visa they can buy my place
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:58 am

Was have to grovel. Get on your knees Theresa. Think of England!

Our electorate fucked us with BREXIT.

I think they were pissed off at living in council houses, and being on the rock n roll.

Whilst fat cats in places like London have been coining it in on things such as property.

It was a revolution of the great unwashed and ignorant.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:00 am

As for it being the 100th anniversary of women getting the vote, I think it should be celebrated by everyone having to do an exam to get the vote.

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Vron, full marks for your honesty in saying you'd happily sell to a Chinese buyer, but:

Live by the sword, die by the sword. Motherfucker.

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Post by dBrother » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:03 am

Why not just put major decisions, like election a government, to a panel of experts to deal with in the best interests of society and the country.
The common person hasn't really got the depth of knowledge to deal with these things.
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BeatRaven wrote:
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Vron, full marks for your honesty in saying you'd happily sell to a Chinese buyer, but:

Live by the sword, die by the sword. Motherfucker.
You talking to me?
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Post by veronica_inheels » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:04 am

Oh no SD, your electorate fucked you over .

How sad.

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Post by veronica_inheels » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:05 am

BeatRaven wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:02 am
Vron, full marks for your honesty in saying you'd happily sell to a Chinese buyer, but:

Live by the sword, die by the sword. Motherfucker.
Im not racist
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dBrother wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:04 am
BeatRaven wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:02 am
Vron, full marks for your honesty in saying you'd happily sell to a Chinese buyer, but:

Live by the sword, die by the sword. Motherfucker.
You talking to me?
You're got big tits but your name isn't Vron

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dBrother wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:03 am
Why not just put major decisions, like election a government, to a panel of experts to deal with in the best interests of society and the country.
The common person hasn't really got the depth of knowledge to deal with these things.
What a good idea. I'll make all your decisions for you, dbro.

First up, you can't post anymore stream of consciousness bullshit.

Second, you must stop posting with that faux ocker tone.

That's a start.

I'll tell you more about how you must live later.

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^^ temp meet SD, SD meet temp..
I'll leave yers to it then...
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:10 am

You gave it to.me with a bow attached!

It was an open goal.

A free dunk with a step ladder.

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Post by veronica_inheels » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:14 am

Immigration does not bother me. Chinese or otherwise ( maybe I am not into Allah people).
I don't like foreign investment in Canada in real estate, it screws the locals. I am not talking about myself, but others.

I sometimes sell to Chinese, often rent to them. I find Polish, Chinese and Koreans good renters.
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veronica_inheels wrote:
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And Vancouver is about 30% white. When I went to London in the summer I had a culture shock- white people everywhere .

They vote. So there.
I thought the investors were foreigners. And what does being white or non-white have to do with anything?
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:22 am

veronica_inheels wrote:
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And Vancouver is about 30% white. When I went to London in the summer I had a culture shock- white people everywhere .

They vote. So there.
White people in London the summer?

Most likely be Yankees tourists (were they loud and obnoxious?)

Or Polish builders (were they carrying beer, wearing tracksuits with flat haircuts?)

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Post by OnTheBall » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:25 am

Anyway, seeing as you are a real estate mogul, aren't you benefiting from all this influx of demand?

The properties you own must have shot up in price, and you must be swimming in a sea of equity, which in turn, is allowing you to further invest in RE, or am I missing something here?

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