Argentina pulls out of World Cup warm up game.

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Argentina pulls out of World Cup warm up game.

Post by Lincoln » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:25 am

Argentina have pulled out of a friendly against Israel today aparently in protest against the violence in Gaza.

Are they right or wrong to do that?

Should sport and politics be kept separate ?

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Post by Lincoln » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:27 am

I'll go first because lets be honest I am by far the most intellygent poster on here...

I think they should have played the game...Sport is one of the few things that unites us as a species, there should be no political interference in sport.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:19 pm

Yup. They should have been aware when arranging the friendly with Israel that there could be potential flashpoints. Have the expressed solidarity between the dispossessed Palestinians and the Argentinians in Las Malvinas?

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Post by Iolar » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:14 pm

The match was supposed to take place in Haifa. According to the Israeli press, a government minister pushed for the game to take place in Jerusalem where it was going to be used as a celebration of the foundation of Israel. The Israeli government appears to have politicised the match. Subsequent to the postponement, Netanyahu urged Macri to intervene. Cementing the Argentines' decision!

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.pr ... -1.6154648
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:29 pm

Well, in that case, I understand Argentina's position

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Post by polardude1 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:34 pm

Dear Iolar, in all likelihood the match would have been in a stadium located in W. Jerusalem. Legally it's not occupied land .
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:35 pm

It should have been played in the agreed stadium.

Mods, please move this to Talk Politics


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Post by Iolar » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:38 pm

polardude1 wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:34 pm
Dear Iolar, in all likelihood the match would have been in a stadium located in W. Jerusalem. Legally it's not occupied land .
It should have been played in the stadium that was agreed to - in Haifa.
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Post by polardude1 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:42 pm

why?
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Post by Iolar » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:10 pm

Do you not think that the Israeli FA should have stuck to its agreement with the Argentine FA to play in Haifa? I expect people I do business with to adhere to agreements. I think it's a reasonable expectation.
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Post by polardude1 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:21 pm

Venues change. The Argentine pussies surrendered to BDS pressure.
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Post by Iolar » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:39 pm

In exceptional circumstances venues may change. Not just on the whim of a government minister.
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Post by Kilombo » Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:03 pm

IMO they should haver never accepted to play this match in Jerusalem specifically after the move of the american embassy to this plays and the violent protests generated due to this decision. I agree that politics should not mix up with sports but often you cannot avoid it and in these cases you should handle it with care. Undoubtly the argie football asociation handled it very very shitty
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Post by Kilombo » Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:09 pm

polardude1 wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:21 pm
Venues change. The Argentine pussies surrendered to BDS pressure.
Well Polar, I have told you before but Nethanyahu and his government has managed that the public world opinion in most of the world is getting more and more upset with those extremist decisions by your government. Later you and your fellowers complain about the left, liberal and everbody being antisemite but your government is doing every effort to make this happen and to see the palestineans as the victims. As you have said before, you don´t care but it is just a matter of time. If ypu jews in Israel and around te world cannot accept that you are on some lands and sacred places which aren´t yours or not only yours, you cannot complain later about it. Most argies fully back the decision to cancel the match and any other southamerican nation would have done the same.
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Post by polardude1 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:11 pm

Kilombo, the match would have been held in West Jerusalem but you knew that already.
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and the violent protests generated due to this decision.

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Post by polardude1 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:14 pm

Kilombo, the match would have been held in West Jerusalem but you knew that already.
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and the violent protests generated due to this decision.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:37 pm

Suffice to say, following squeezing through qualification, and getting stuffed 6-1 by Spain in March, Argentina haven't had the best preparation.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:39 pm

Croatia, Nigeria and Iceland

They could find that group tough.

Croatia are big game hunters.

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Post by harry_flashman » Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:56 pm

Iolar wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:10 pm
Do you not think that the Israeli FA should have stuck to its agreement with the Argentine FA to play in Haifa? I expect people I do business with to adhere to agreements. I think it's a reasonable expectation.

Well since the filthy Argies do not have a problem claiming other people’s lend and have used and abused sport to politicise these claims I say fcuk them.
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Post by Agent009 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:05 pm

FFS, a bipolar jew debate on teh world cup sport branch.... Meh.
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Post by bundes » Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:14 pm

Stephen_Dedalus wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:37 pm
Suffice to say, following squeezing through qualification, and getting stuffed 6-1 by Spain in March, Argentina haven't had the best preparation.
Why even agree to play Israel in the first place?
How is that preparing them for the style of the 3 games they have ahead.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:18 pm

bundes wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:14 pm
Stephen_Dedalus wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:37 pm
Suffice to say, following squeezing through qualification, and getting stuffed 6-1 by Spain in March, Argentina haven't had the best preparation.
Why even agree to play Israel in the first place?
How is that preparing them for the style of the 3 games they have ahead.
Exactly

Our warm up games are Nigeria and Costa Rica.

We play Tunisia and Panama.

And for the game against Belgium, we played Germany, Italy and Holland.

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Post by Agent009 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:30 pm

bundes wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:14 pm
Why even agree to play Israel in the first place?
How is that preparing them for the style of the 3 games they have ahead.
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Post by polardude1 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:33 pm

why is ths so important in Agent's life?
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:38 pm

I've just had a look at the Argentinian team.

Their 3 goalkeepers are all over 30 (not necessarily a bad thing)

9 caps between them.

A guy at River Plate, some guy in Mexico and Willy, a 36 year old reserve for Chelsea

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:44 pm

Up front though.

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Post by Kilombo » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:00 pm

I don´t think Argentina is a serious candidate for the WC. If Messi plays top all games it could be but lots of improvisation so far and the coach did not have it very clear either. The 6 - 1 with Spain was a result of improvisation. But usually the matchs before the WC do not mean much, Germany did not win none of the past 5 matches and IMO it is still the favorite together with Spain and Brasil.
BTW, the coach of Argentina didn´t want to play the friendly with Israel either due to preparations.
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Post by Kilombo » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:02 pm

Stephen_Dedalus wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:38 pm
I've just had a look at the Argentinian team.

Their 3 goalkeepers are all over 30 (not necessarily a bad thing)

9 caps between them.

A guy at River Plate, some guy in Mexico and Willy, a 36 year old reserve for Chelsea

lol
The guy of River Plate, Armani had a terrific season. Great performance but he never played a match in the national team so far. The usual goalkeeper, Romero is injured and will not make it.
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Post by jedgarandclyde » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:07 am

I do think that the question that needs to be answered here is why the game was moved in the 1st place, it seems to be the catalyst all the fallout.

So, why in the hell was it moved?
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