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Post by BulletPark » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:01 pm

Wonder if Kim Davis is shitting blood? Think maybe she'll marry a fifth time to drown out the pain?

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Post by desertstorm » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:09 pm

I hope he keeps his words this time.

Did he say anything about gay marriage during the campaign?

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Post by Homerj » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:10 pm

But things don't look so promising for Roe v. Wade.
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Post by BulletPark » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:14 pm

desertstorm wrote:I hope he keeps his words this time.

Did he say anything about gay marriage during the campaign?


I'm not sure he was aware it existed.

In fact, I'm not sure he knows what a gay is.

Otherwise he might have had a word or two with Ivanka before she became Jared's beard.

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Post by BulletPark » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:25 pm

Speaking of Kim Davis, BTW...it really knocks me out that this four-times married, adulterous whore thinks she has a God-given duty to protect the sanctity of marriage.

Not least because it means that three men stuck their cock into that pile of dried glue and one of them did it twice.

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Post by birdlite » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:37 pm

Homerj wrote:But things don't look so promising for Roe v. Wade.


Right - gay marriage is no longer a "thing" because Trump considers it "already settled" by a Supreme Court decision.
“These cases have gone to the Supreme Court. They’ve been settled. And I’m — I’m fine with that,”

But Roe v. Wade is not "settled" by the Supreme Court cases and decisions.

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Post by VinnyD » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:44 pm

If he appoints someone to the Supreme Court who thinks Obergefelder, Windsor, and Roe were wrongly decided, they could be overturned.

They wouldn't necessarily be overturned, but they could be.

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Post by Ped_Yai » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:45 pm

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Post by Ped_Yai » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:47 pm

Obergefelder


Obergefeld

Let's try that one more time.

Obergfell.

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Post by VinnyD » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:48 pm

Thank you.

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Post by muthafunky » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:02 pm

I wonder if Roe Vs Wade were overturned which states would make abortion legal and which would make it illegal. I'd guess most would go legal.

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Post by birdlite » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:17 pm

muthafunky wrote:I wonder if Roe Vs Wade were overturned which states would make abortion legal and which would make it illegal. I'd guess most would go legal.


Well, Alabama and Mississippi and Texas would outlaw it. So it would be self-service for poor women:
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Post by VinnyD » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:20 pm

muthafunky wrote:I wonder if Roe Vs Wade were overturned which states would make abortion legal and which would make it illegal. I'd guess most would go legal.


I think that most states would make it criminal, but that the states in which a majority of the population lives would keep it legal.

The male legislators in the criminalization states would figure their wives and daughters and mistresses could go out of state if necessary. As for women who couldn't afford that: fuck 'em.

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Post by Annotated » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:24 pm

birdlite wrote:Well, Alabama and Mississippi and Texas would outlaw it. So it would be self-service for poor women:
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If a woman is willing to take a pair a scissors to a baby, what's the problem in taking a hanger to it?
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Post by Andrea1 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:25 pm

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The male legislators in the criminalization states would figure their wives and daughters and mistresses could go out of state if necessary. As for women who couldn't afford that: fuck 'em.


That's what Trump thinks, too. Is it what anti-abortion Republicans think should happen?


Asked where that would leave women seeking abortions, Mr. Trump, on the CBS program “60 Minutes,” said, “Well, they’ll perhaps have to go — they’ll have to go to another state.”

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Post by Flobster! » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:25 pm

It's very often the woman who dies in backyard abortions.

Fetuses are not babies.
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Post by Annotated » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:29 pm

Flobster! wrote:It's very often the woman who dies in backyard abortions.

Fetuses are not babies.


Fetuses ARE humans. We've had this discussion. Ask Vinny, even he admits it. ... Well, he wouldn't admit it to you here, but I could very easily give you a link where he admits it.

So the woman wants to kill someone, but she doesn't want to get killed in the process? Makes sense, but it only seems fair that she has to AT LEAST take that gamble, doesn't it?
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Post by Flobster! » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:30 pm

Human fetuses are human fetuses, yes.
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Post by coffeeguy » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:30 pm

Amerikkka need more unwanted kids to make it grate again. Start building the prisons now chumps.

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Post by Annotated » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:33 pm

Flobster! wrote:Human fetuses are human fetuses, yes.


You do understand that a "fetus" is just an arbitrary label, right?

OH! ... Maybe you don't.
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Annotated wrote:
birdlite wrote:Well, Alabama and Mississippi and Texas would outlaw it. So it would be self-service for poor women:
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If a woman is willing to take a pair a scissors to a baby, what's the problem in taking a hanger to it?



I don't know. Ask your mom. I assume she chickened out once she got the hanger about halfway up there and that's why we have to put up with you.

You dumb fucking cunt.

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Post by Annotated » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:34 pm

coffeeguy wrote:Amerikkka need more unwanted kids to make it grate again. Start building the prisons now chumps.


So you're saying the best thing to do is kill unwanted kids?

That's the type of compassionate liberal we all know and love.
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Post by VinnyD » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:37 pm

Nobody said anything about killing kids, Annotated.

You yourself distinguish between murder and abortion.

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Post by Annotated » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:40 pm

VinnyD wrote:Nobody said anything about killing kids, Annotated.



What's the definition of a "kid?"
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Post by section8 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:41 pm

Annotated is against abortions because he somehow survived one. Can't say I blame the guy. Or his mom, really.
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Post by BulletPark » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:43 pm

Annotated wrote:
VinnyD wrote:Nobody said anything about killing kids, Annotated.



What's the definition of a "kid?"



A young goat.

You dumb fucking cunt.

Now get the fuck off my thread, this is where I mock you and your shithead comperes for the fact that gay marriage and Mr. Trumpy are Besties Forever and you can lick four husband's worth of jiz out of Kim Davis's Cayman Trench.

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Post by VinnyD » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:46 pm

You are the one who used the word.

I imagine it is equivalent to child.

This word has two meanings in law: (1) In the law of the domestic relations, and as to descent and distribution, it is used strictly as the correlative of "parent," and means a son or daughter considered as in relation with the father or mother. (2) In the law of negligence, and in laws for the protection of children, etc., it is used as the opposite of "adult," and means the young of the human species, (generally under the age of puberty,) without any reference to parentage and without distinction of sex. Miller v. Finegan, 26 Fla. 29, 7 South. 140, 6 L. R. A. 813.(Black's Law Dictionary)

Is killing a fetus with malice aforethought always murder, Annotated? Let's say in the event of rape or incest. Should the woman carrying the fetus be subject to the death penalty?

If not you are distinguishing between abortion and murder, which is the taking of a human life with malice aforethought. On the basis of the status of the supposed victim.

Which means you are distinguishing between the life of the fetus and the life of a human being.

We have been through this before.

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Post by VinnyD » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:47 pm

Do you disagree with Trump about gay marriage, Annotated?

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Post by Annotated » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:49 pm

section8 wrote:Annotated is against abortions because he somehow survived one. Can't say I blame the guy. Or his mom, really.


Nasty Trump voter.
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VinnyD wrote:Do you disagree with Trump about gay marriage, Annotated?


I don't know that Trump thinks about gay marriage. Do you?
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Post by Godjira » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:01 am

Abortion isn't killing a "kid"

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Post by incognita » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:02 am

Texas already has a defacto ban on abortion. They also have the highest maternal mortality rate in the developed world.

As far as LGBTQ rights go, I believe there is an anti-gay RFRA bill in the House right now that strips all protections. I'm not sure if Trump has said he would sign it.
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Post by korgy » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:04 am

on Roe v Wade, my understanding is you would have to have precisely the right kind of case come before the SCOTUS for it even to be addressed again -- which could be a long way off. from what i'm hearing, doesnt seem likely.
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Annotated wrote:
Flobster! wrote:Human fetuses are human fetuses, yes.


You do understand that a "fetus" is just an arbitrary label, right?.


As is 'baby' and 'human' etc.
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Post by incognita » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:13 am

RvW will not he overturned, the GOP won't kill their golden goose. They Wil just regulate it out of existence, with TRAP laws. Like they have in TX & MS
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Post by Godjira » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:15 am

Everything is an arbitrary label. "Apple" is arbitrary. Why is it called an "apple"? What isn't arbitrary is what it stands for. An apple is an apple, not a peach. Likewise, a fetus is a fetus, not a "kid".
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Post by northern_goddess » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:41 am

Homerj wrote:But things don't look so promising for Roe v. Wade.



Donald Trump stands by campaign promise to overturn Roe v. Wade

In an interview with 60 Minutes’ Lesley Stahl broadcast Sunday night, Trump said he would stick to his campaign pledge to appoint pro-life judges to the Supreme Court in an attempt to weaken or reverse the landmark 1973 decision on abortion.


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Post by korgy » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:43 am

the question i think is not so much about whether a "pro-life" judge will be appointed, but how possible it is to actually overturn Roe v Wade, and what that would entail. the appropriate case has to come along -- SCOTUS doesnt just sit around deciding to throw out past rulings.
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Post by Lost Soul » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:47 am

One less anti-Trump lie from the press has been revealed after the election.

Which means one less trigger, and a few less fuzzy blankets needed for the people who insist on being lied to by the leftardic press.

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Post by temporaryhandle2 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:51 am

Are there US any lawyers here?

Can anyone tell me how original jurisdiction works there?

Unless it can be established, it seems to me that it could take a lot longer than 4 years to get Roe vs Wade overturned. If at all.

Why do so many of you have so little faith in your institutions?

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temporaryhandle2 wrote: Why do so many of you have so little faith in your institutions?

Because Maobama hates the US.
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Autocrat.

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temporaryhandle2 wrote:Autocrat.

Yes he is.

A Communist autocrat.
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Post by temporaryhandle2 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:47 am

Yes, darling.

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Post by Lost Soul » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:56 am

BTW, original jurisdiction is whatever a majority of the Supreme Court says it is.

In practice, they don't reach beneath them for cases, but there is nothing saying they can't. Bush vs. Gore in 2000 was a classic reach around.
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No. Fucking. Idea.

Bush vs Gore was a Court of Disputed Returns decision.

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Post by Lost Soul » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:12 am

Who's O. J. was the Florida supreme court, then federal circuit court, then federal appeals court, then the US SC.

They reached down four levels for that one, as I stated above, dear.
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Post by temporaryhandle2 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:22 am

Ok, sweetie but do you really think its Ok for any President to say SC decision gay marriage ok. It stands. Roe v Wade not Ok, so I'll stack the Court to get it changed?

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Post by temporaryhandle2 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:32 am

Lost Soul wrote:Who's O. J. was the Florida supreme court, then federal circuit court, then federal appeals court, then the US SC.

They reached down four levels for that one, as I stated above, dear.


Ps that's not what original jurisdiction means, but never mind.

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