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Post by Lost Soul » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:21 pm

Yes, Herr Drumpf is 1.8% up on the crooked little lady, according to the most accurate poll from 2012- the IBD poll.

Get out your prayer beads and smelling salts.

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With 16 days to go until November 8, Donald Trump leads Hillary Clinton by 2 percentage points — 43% to 41% — in a four-way race, according to the latest IBD/TIPP presidential tracking poll.

Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson saw his support held steady at 7%, while the Green Party's Jill Stein dipped to 3%.

Unrounded, Trump leads 42.6% to 40.8% — a 1.8-point edge — with Johnson at 7.2% and Stein at 3.3%.

Trump also holds a nearly one-point lead in a two-way matchup — 43.2% to 42.3%.


http://www.investors.com/politics/trump-up-2-points-nationwide-while-clinton-campaigns-as-if-the-race-is-already-won-ibdtipp-poll/
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Post by korgy » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:32 pm

meanwhile, ABC just came out with a poll showing Hillary 12 points ahead in the 4-way race -- and their included dates are more recent:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -5952.html
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Post by section8 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:37 pm

It's funny that every time IBD is mentioned on AM radio, they throw in the "most accurate" bit. And if you search the term, it's IBD that started the meme.

Even if it was the most accurate in 2012 it was still way off. National polls aren't as useful as state polling, or aggregating data. This is a weird election, though. How off could the polling be? And in which direction will it swing?
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Post by korgy » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:02 pm

what's interesting to me is that in two of the three latest polls in Texas, Trump is only leading by 3 points.

*TEXAS*.
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Post by NorthAmerican » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:18 pm

I think I've said all along that I wouldn't count Trump out. I don't think either candidate is good, but I think of him as the worse of the two.
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Post by korgy » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:20 pm

no one is doing that NA. why do you and Vinny feel the need to post this every time someone tries to be honest about where the polls are?
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Post by eric84 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:23 pm

C'mon, ditchdigger, how much are you willing to bet on a Trump win? Your refusal to do tells everyone that you don't actually believe ths.
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What's Aleppo, Reich?
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Post by eric84 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:28 pm

C'mon, tough guy. Stop avoiding the question.
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by eric84 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:23 pm
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Post by eric84 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:43 pm

Is fake libertarian better?
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Post by Jim-2012 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:47 pm

Even inner city is moving to Trump:
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Post by 5waldos » Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:35 pm

I will continue to semi-panic until the election is called (very early I suspect) on Nov. 8 (actually- stations may not call the election until at least the west coast polls close so as not to influence voters). Until then- given the way that Trump projects I am certain he is doing his best to figure out how he can rig the election. The actual votes, not the media etc etc. He has already set in place voter intimidation by calling for his supporters to "monitor" polling sites. Something which may or may not be forbidden depending on whether or not he is acting on behalf of the Republican Party as they were banned from doing just that for several more years after having been found to be intimidating voters.

So- the man who has nothing to lose is a dangerous man.

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Post by eric84 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:41 pm

The problem with saying the election is rigged is that it depresses his own base so that seems counterproductive

Real clear politics has Texas in the toss up category now.
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Post by 5waldos » Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:55 pm

True- unless he actually does find a way to rig it.

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Post by Jim-2012 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:07 pm

Republican Party as they were banned from doing just that for several more years after having been found to be intimidating voters.

It was the New Black Panthers (Democrats) who were intimidating voters in Phila.
They were found guilty, but the head of the DOJ [sic] dropped the case when Obama took over in 2009.
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Post by eric84 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:16 pm

5waldos wrote:True- unless he actually does find a way to rig it.


I'm with Obama on this. How do you rig a national election when the elections are run at a local and state level. It can't be done.
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Post by StrangeLove » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:21 pm

The only voter intimidation I see is Canadian hockey ruffians trying to manipulate American voters. Fuck off back to your trailer parks, eh?
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5waldos wrote:I will continue to semi-panic until the election is called (very early I suspect) on Nov. 8 (actually- stations may not call the election until at least the west coast polls close so as not to influence voters). Until then- given the way that Trump projects I am certain he is doing his best to figure out how he can rig the election. The actual votes, not the media etc etc. He has already set in place voter intimidation by calling for his supporters to "monitor" polling sites. Something which may or may not be forbidden depending on whether or not he is acting on behalf of the Republican Party as they were banned from doing just that for several more years after having been found to be intimidating voters.

So- the man who has nothing to lose is a dangerous man.
i'm with you, waldos. two more LONG weeks to go. normally, the race would pretty much be over by now with these stats. but the problem with Trump is that the most important thing to him in the universe is not being a loser. which means he will not hesitate do whatever it takes to put his own ego ahead of the country, ahead of democracy, ahead of the well-being of others, including his family, ahead of the relationship of the US to the rest of the world, ahead of our country's future, etc etc etc. he doesnt care about any of that -- the only thing he cares about is not appearing to be a loser. i genuinely believe if there were anything he could do to change the outcome of this election in his favor, he would do it. anything whatsoever.

and there are plenty of people like Lost Soul who would enjoy gloating about that.
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Post by eric84 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:26 pm

You got that wrestler-style chirping patter. You can turn Maryland red, I know it.
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Post by 5waldos » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:41 pm

Figured out why he sniffs (has this been suggested?) he does it when ever he lies bigly. To crowds who might call him on it.

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Post by eric84 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:58 pm

That's not terribly helpful.
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Post by VinnyD » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:17 pm

538 gives him about a one in eight chance of winning. That is by no means negligible.

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Post by korgy » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:26 pm

^ this is so funny Vinny, after what i wrote above under NA's post. i guess you didnt read it.

is someone here saying that Trump's chances are negligible?
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Post by 5waldos » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:29 pm

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Republican Party as they were banned from doing just that for several more years after having been found to be intimidating voters.

It was the New Black Panthers (Democrats) who were intimidating voters in Phila.
They were found guilty, but the head of the DOJ [sic] dropped the case when Obama took over in 2009.


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Post by northern_goddess » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:32 pm

korgy wrote:^ this is so funny Vinny, after what i wrote above under NA's post. i guess you didnt read it.

is someone here saying that Trump's chances are negligible?


Why do you care, Korgy? You also get upset if I post that I don't like Hilary but would vote for her anyway. What is it about these posts that pushes your buttons and compels you to demand posts stop saying them?
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Post by jedgarandclyde » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:33 pm

I still find it hard to believe Trump leads in some polls.

It makes you wonder, who is running these polls?

After what has come out about him in the election, i do find it un-f*****g-believeable!!!
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jedgarandclyde wrote:I still find it hard to believe Trump leads in some polls.

It makes you wonder, who is running these polls?

After what has come out about him in the election, i do find it un-f*****g-believeable!!!

I see your media has taught you nothing about the Hilldebeest. Sad.
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-americanjoe- wrote:by eric84 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:23 pm
C'mon, ditchdigger,
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Why do you use that as an insult?
Stop it.
The guy works for a living and as I understand it he makes about 4 times what you.
It makes you look like a pretentious ass.

Thanks for the defense Joe. He thinks I mind, but I don't mind. Carry on.
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Lost Soul wrote:
jedgarandclyde wrote:I still find it hard to believe Trump leads in some polls.

It makes you wonder, who is running these polls?

After what has come out about him in the election, i do find it un-f*****g-believeable!!!

I see your media has taught you nothing about the Hilldebeest. Sad.

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Lost Soul wrote:
-americanjoe- wrote:by eric84 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:23 pm
C'mon, ditchdigger,
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Why do you use that as an insult?
Stop it.
The guy works for a living and as I understand it he makes about 4 times what you.
It makes you look like a pretentious ass.

Thanks for the defense Joe. He thinks I mind, but I don't mind. Carry on.


It was your initial reaction to my using it that made me realize I hit a sensitive spot with you.
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As I already explained to you, puckhead, it only bothered me because you were a mod at the time.
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Why would that matter, delicate flower?
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eric84 wrote:Why would that matter, delicate flower?

This response is why you're no longer working as a mod.
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Post by Godjira » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:20 pm

Panic time? It's a little late for you to be panicking, isn't it Loosy?
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I don't really think so. Certainly, Mutha has no trouble picking on posters. You just didn't like the moniker.
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eric84 wrote:I don't really think so. Certainly, Mutha has no trouble picking on posters. You just didn't like the moniker.

No, I just didn't like you.

And mutha isn't a mod.
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You do get awfully angry at me.
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Doesn't everybody?
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Post by eric84 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:28 pm

Well, you, polar, moe and disco were the mob with pitchforks. Is that everybody?
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Ianus?

Dim Joey?

Felix?

My what a selective memory you have.
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Jim- no response? Had you seen the information about the republican party and monitoring of polling places?

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Lost Soul wrote:Ianus?

Dim Joey?

Felix?

My what a selective memory you have.


So, 7 posters, 3 of them no longer here. Yuge.
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korgy wrote:is someone here saying that Trump's chances are negligible?


Trump has no chance to win. Zero.
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Tcop?

Cuchforbrains?

Baio?

I could go on...
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No issues with Cuch. Baio's hardly here and Thoughtpolice flounced silently.
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Your spreadsheet has always been the most hilariously inaccurate.
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StrangeLove wrote:
korgy wrote:is someone here saying that Trump's chances are negligible?


Trump has no chance to win. Zero.


If I had not experienced the 2000, and then the 2004 election, I would wholeheartedly agree.

But, as those elections involved shrub and the cohort, they don't apply today.

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StrangeLove wrote:
korgy wrote:is someone here saying that Trump's chances are negligible?


Trump has no chance to win. Zero.

Seriously? From what Nate silver says he has a 14% chance. Not great but not zero.

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Post by Jim-2012 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:05 pm

I've no idea what the Diebolds of the world want us to suffer the next four years.

More & more war.
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