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Post by LuZbelito » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:40 am

Banastre_Tarleton wrote:No I disagree. Its one thing to beat an opponent its another to put 7 past them on their home turf. Granted Brazil were overrated and playing on adrenalin but Germany hunted down Brazil like a pack of Wolves. Columbia turned up expecting to loose, conversely Low had his team in the right state of mind. He comments before the game were right on. The bad news for Germany is that Argentina know what to expect. The good news for Germany is that they have seen the opposition take their penalties.

It's your prerogative, i suppose. But then again, don't expect us to take your opinion seriously, particularly after using phrases like "pack of wolves", words like "Columbia" and showing a brutal display of ignorance in every tactical input you delight us with.

As you told another poster before, you are out of your depth.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:00 am

She made a sports related post, finally.
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Post by Moethebartender » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:04 am

Sir Drinks a Lot wrote:She made a sports related post, finally.
Kind of.


She? Was that supposed to be an insult? Have you been indulging in the Cider with your buddy Geeky or is the best attempt at humor that you can manage in your constantly pissed state? Do you have a problem (aside from an alcohol induced inability to acquire an erection) with women generally? Do you consider them contemptuous for some reason? Or were you just vomiting out the first thing that passed through your otherwise empty head without giving it any thought?
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Post by Tortilla Slim » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:38 am

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Post by Higgs Bossom » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:43 am

Boring game.

I like Germany over Argentina in the final.

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Post by OnTheBall » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:26 am

Banastre_Tarleton wrote:Both teams were playing defensively. Stick to Aussie rules cos you are out of your depth here


I don't think Argentina ever lined up like this at any point throughout the game
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:57 am

Moethebartender wrote:
Sir Drinks a Lot wrote:She made a sports related post, finally.
Kind of.


She? Was that supposed to be an insult? Have you been indulging in the Cider with your buddy Geeky or is the best attempt at humor that you can manage in your constantly pissed state? Do you have a problem (aside from an alcohol induced inability to acquire an erection) with women generally? Do you consider them contemptuous for some reason? Or were you just vomiting out the first thing that passed through your otherwise empty head without giving it any thought?


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Post by Iolar » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:35 am

Well, that was disappointing.
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Post by Tortilla Slim » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:44 am

That made my year. Can't wait for the final.
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Post by jedgarandclyde » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:25 am

It is very obvious that knows anything about football that the the Dutch's win 5-0 against Spain, was easily their most impressive result when they attacked with seemilly nothing to lose against the highly thought side in their 1st game of this WC.

The most obvious about team structure in the 1st game, was their best attacking player Robben was played far wider, and many a time when confronted by a defender just toe poked the ball into space and simply won the race to the ball.

And it is also obvious as the WC wore on the more defense minded they became, the worse the Dutch team played, and the less goals they scored, untill the semi final when it was obvious to any they were shit scared to lose, and played Robben in a far, far less attacking position.
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Post by Tortilla Slim » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:03 pm

Their entire strategy seemed to be "let Robben make a break with the ball and then take a dive close enough to score on a free kick or penalty shot". He's a real fuckin princess.
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Post by Kilombo » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:02 pm

Tough game but really great Argentina!!! Geeky was spot on in his OP. "You stop Robben, you stop Holland". It was more a chess game than a football game. Holland resigned completly to attack and was thinking to win the penalty shoot out from the 1st minute.
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Post by grecian » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:24 pm

Kilombo wrote:Tough game but really great Argentina!!! Geeky was spot on in his OP. "You stop Robben, you stop Holland".


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Post by LuZbelito » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:48 pm

Kilombo wrote: Holland resigned completly to attack and was thinking to win the penalty shoot out from the 1st minute.

Hey, Enstein, couple of questions

1)Why the fuck does a team that, as per your expert opinion, was thinking to win the penalty shoot out from the 1st minute would keep a goal keeper that has never, ever, stopped a penalty before in his professional career, when they have a better one for the job?

2)Why does a team that plans to win through penalty shoot out takes ages to decide the order? Shouldn't that be something they have factored in? The first two players from the NL who were asked to shoot first declined and that is why Vlaar took that spot.

3) How does a team who plans on winning through penalties ends up having (http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/ro ... l#nosticky)
a) More possession
b) more dangerous attacks

I have a theory which, conveniently, answers all three questions but i'd rather hear what you have to say first.

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Post by Kilombo » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:52 pm

I already said everything I had to say and for sure I am not an expert.
Now you tell me where did you see during the 120 minutes any effort of Holland to score a goal? 99,99% of the time they were only worried about avoiding goals not scoring it. Obviously this will lead to a penalty shoot out. Argentina had a great defense but at least they tried to score, Holland didn´t!
More possesion doesn´t mean anything at all and you must have seen another game if you saw dangerous attacks of Holland.
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you do post some shit, kilombo

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Post by Kilombo » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:54 pm

Stephen_Dedalus wrote:you do post some shit, kilombo

The dutch are lousers as they have always been. Get over it you sad kunt!!!!!!
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Post by Agent009 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:01 pm

The dutch are l005ers.
I was with them to win it 4 years ago, then they came out and played a horrrible insult to the game.
Now van gaaaal crying becuase he has to play a 3rd place game, STFU..... L005er. With that attitude you should fit in well at manure.

And the media going on about robbbens kid crying like a brazilllian..... STFU!
I wonder how much robbben kid is gonna cry when he finds out his dad is one of the biggest dddddive artists to ever play the game........
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Agent009 wrote:And the media going on about robbbens kid crying like a brazilllian..... STFU!
I wonder how much robbben kid is gonna cry when he finds out his dad is one of the biggest dddddive artists to ever play the game........


I agree. Imagine growing up and going back to watch replays of your dad's glory days and realizing he constantly took dives without contact even being made and rolled around the goalkeepers box like a little bitch.

I'd love to see the refs start booking people for this crap.
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Post by eric84 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:10 pm

I'm just amazed a country of 17 million is this competitive at football and can dominate speedskating at the same time.
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It looks like you are easily amazed, CuntEric....

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:04 pm

Tortilla Slim wrote:
Agent009 wrote:And the media going on about robbbens kid crying like a brazilllian..... STFU!
I wonder how much robbben kid is gonna cry when he finds out his dad is one of the biggest dddddive artists to ever play the game........


I agree. Imagine growing up and going back to watch replays of your dad's glory days and realizing he constantly took dives without contact even being made and rolled around the goalkeepers box like a little bitch.

I'd love to see the refs start booking people for this crap.


That and handballing the ball in the back of the net

Can't get bigger cheating than that

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:34 pm

And then blaming God of course.

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Post by jedgarandclyde » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:22 pm

I do think Maradona's worst crime that he boasted about being a cheat, great footballer, but a shit human being.
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Post by Kilombo » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:23 pm

eric84 wrote:I'm just amazed a country of 17 million is this competitive at football and can dominate speedskating at the same time.

Well Uruguay has only 3 millions and won 2 WCs
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Post by Tortilla Slim » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:24 pm

Robben admitted to diving as well, saying something like "sometimes you are expecting a foul and you just can't help it". Fucking pussy.
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Post by Kilombo » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:39 pm

well diving is part of football. Just some really exagerrate.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:40 pm

So, non-theatrical diving is on then.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:41 pm

Will Muller be treading the boards in the final, Hamlet or Henry V?

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Post by Kilombo » Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:48 pm

Robben is one of the worst divers. Get over your trauma. Holland never can win anything important.
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Post by Agent009 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:10 pm

It really is time for FIFA to get serious about diving.
Its time the cards fly for obvious simiulation.

Embellishing an actual foul should mean the original foul is waved.
Its not the players job to 'help' the ref make calls. This is where the problem starts.
Raising your hand as a player because you think its offsides should be a foul as well (nothing more pathetic then a defender raising his hand), and anyone arguing with a ref over a call who isnt the team captain, ya, thats a penalty.
It time to take the game back from the whinging players, and put control back in the hands of the officials.

The problem is, especially in the latin game, embellishment is sooooooooooooooooooooo much a part of the game that trying to remove it from the game would be almost impo55ible.
It would 'ruin' their game.

Ive said this for years...
If fifa can review games for harsh fouls that were missed by officials, then they can review games for obvious dddddddives.
Offenders should be given 'pink' cards that equal a one match ban.
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The problem is, especially in the latin game, embellishment is sooooooooooooooooooooo much a part of the game that trying to remove it from the game would be almost impo55ible.
It would 'ruin' their game.


It's a huge problem almost everywhere. I wouldn't single out Latin countries. Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard, Arjen Robben, and Thomas Muller are amongst the most prolific divers in football. None of them are Latin. It's almost invariably overlooked when English players fall over, though. Funny that.
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Sure, its a problem everywhere, becuase the officials let it slide, everywhere.......

The fact is, watch a game between 2 brazilian teams, then watch a game between 2 teams from the brundesliga, and its almost 2 different games.
One is littered with embelishment to 'let the ref know' they were fouled, and one isnt.

The brazil colombia game was almost unwatchable....
The entire 2nd half was start, stop, start, stop, start, stop.

Latin players will generally admit that they are more dramatic, and its fans are far more likely to cheeer it on as part of the game.
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Iolar wrote:
The problem is, especially in the latin game, embellishment is sooooooooooooooooooooo much a part of the game that trying to remove it from the game would be almost impo55ible.
It would 'ruin' their game.


It's a huge problem almost everywhere. I wouldn't single out Latin countries. Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard, Arjen Robben, and Thomas Muller are amongst the most prolific divers in football. None of them are Latin. It's almost invariably overlooked when English players fall over, though. Funny that.


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Post by grecian » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:31 pm

Since when was Steven Gerrard a Diver??

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Agent009 wrote:The problem is, especially in the latin game, embellishment is sooooooooooooooooooooo much a part of the game that trying to remove it from the game would be almost impo55ible.

Although i agree with most of what you posted, it is hard to take your posts seriously when you post bullshit like the one from this quote.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:19 am

I've thought long and hard about this.
My pre-tournament prediction was Argentina.
But, i really wanted them to beat Brazil in the final.
I had a Brazilian flatmate, lovely guy, super football ego.

So, I've watched many YouTube concerts in Argentina.
The people are special.
The passion.
I want Argentina to win.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:21 am

And the women are fucking fit.

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Agent009 wrote:The problem is, especially in the latin game, embellishment is sooooooooooooooooooooo much a part of the game that trying to remove it from the game would be almost impo55ible.

Although i agree with most of what you posted, it is hard to take your posts seriously when you post bullshit like the one from this quote.

So, you will actually say with a straight face that the style of play in la liga insnt more tolerant of 'simulation', and that it isnt one of the reason why latin players thrive there, prefer to play there?.....
Ya, whatevah....
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Post by LuZbelito » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:26 pm

So, la liga = latin game?

I stand correct, it's very hard to take your posts seriously.

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Way to dodge the question......
So i take it you agreee that the style of play in la liga is different.
A style that is closer to the game of south america, then it is that of the english premiership.

La liga latin stlye?..... Of course it is.
Why do you think valdaramma wants rodriguez to play in la liga, and thats just one of many examples.

If you kant admit that the style of game in latin america (or even la liga) is different that that of the EPL/brundesliga/MLS, its hard to take your posts seriously.
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Agent009 wrote:Of course it is.
Way to dodge the question......
So i take it you agreee that the style of play in la liga is different.
A style that is closer to the game of south america, then it is that of the english premiership.

If you kant admit that the style of game in latin america is different that that of the EPL, its hard to take your posts seriously.

English fill their mouths making ridiculous claims like you only to then hire guys like Ronaldo and Suarez and have hoards of fans follow them like zombies.

You still cry about Maradona's hand in 86 but conveniently forget Owen's dive in 98. You want to put yourself in a ludicrous holier than thou position when evidence is clearly against it.

When Ronaldo got into Rooney's head in the World Cup and got him red carded every single englishman i met said something along he lines of "he'll never play again in the Premier, we don't want people like that". We both know what happened later.

Still, i'll put my money where my mouth is. You made a claim, a rather extraordinary claim which is that diving, cheating, etc are more common in the latin game.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, so here is my question: can you provide us with tangible, measurable information to support your claim? Or do you just expect us to take your word for it?

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Post by Agent009 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:08 pm

Im not british....
And you just put a lot of words in my mouth..

You made a claim, a rather extraordinary claim which is that diving, cheating, etc are more common in the latin game

I said that embellishment and simulation are more common in the latin game......
You want prooof..... Just watch a game!

Simulation, or exaggerating fouls is by far more prevalent in the latin game.
Are you really gonna deny that?
Did you not watch the brazil v chile game?

Even the players say it!
When CR7 or james rodrigues says that la liga fits thier style of play, exactly what to you think they mean?
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Post by Agent009 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:22 pm

Luz, you are mistaking what im saying as being an attack on the latin game....
Its not.
Its just that the latin style is different, based on different interpretation/implementation of the rules. One where contact is frowned upon more, which means the game is played different, meaning 'winning' a foul has different value.
You cannot tackle as hard in la liga as you can in the british leagues. La liga is a more 'technical' league they say. The colombian style of league play is different then that of belgiums league.
This leeeeeds (is dooooomed) to a different style of play in different corners of the globe, and there really is no right or wrong.
Why is that so hard to acccept?
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Post by LuZbelito » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:43 pm

Agent009 wrote:I said that embellishment and simulation are more common in the latin game......
You want prooof..... Just watch a game!

So, what if, and i am just asking, god forbid, other people watch a game and disagree with you? Would that make them wrong?

Then again, i was stupid enough to ask you for concrete tangible evidence. Silly me.

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Post by Agent009 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:56 pm

Again you dodge the questions and put it back on me.....
How do you want me to prove it?
Serio?
You can honestly say that the game is not only called the same by the officials, but played the same? That players go down just as easily in the english championship as they do in the argentinian league.
Again, how can i take you seriously if thats what you truly believe?
Are you the one trolling?

You honestly think that the game is played/officiated the same in spain, argentina, germany, usa, mexico, and england?.....
What if i disagree?

LuZbelito wrote:
Agent009 wrote:The problem is, especially in the latin game, embellishment is sooooooooooooooooooooo much a part of the game that trying to remove it from the game would be almost impo55ible.

Although i agree with most of what you posted, it is hard to take your posts seriously when you post bullshit like the one from this quote.

You toook this entirely out of context, because you want to see me saying something im not.

If FIFA was to crack down on embellishment and simulation, sure it would effect players and leagues from all over the world, but it would without a doubt have more effect on latin leagues.
Thats not an attack on the latin game, its just the reality.
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