Biscuits and Gravy

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:35 pm

Is Wikipedia upstairs Vinny?

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by VinnyD » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:07 pm

Damn your eyes, Stephen, you made me climb two flights. That "heavy food" sense of stodge is first recorded in 1963, according to the supplement to the first edition of the OED.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by temporaryhandle2 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:04 am

VinnyD wrote:
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Come to Australia! Fresh food! No stodge!
You don't think pies and sausage rolls are stodgy?
She thinks that carbs plus fat are less fattening than carbs alone, so she may well think that, yes.
Of course pies and sausage rolls are stodgy! Why wouldn't I think that?

They are also not the only thing to eat.

Silly stodgy sausages, you two are.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by ben_hanscombe » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:52 am

At university, where I first learned to cook, we had a running joke that a balanced meal needed only to represent the two food groups: meat and stodge.

Pies and sausage roll aren't stodgy. This isn't a defence of pies and sausage roll but a clarification of the word 'stodge'.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by DCComic » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:32 am

Porridge is archetypical stodge. Mashed potato, polenta and risotto are pretty stodgy. Stodge is displaced or diluted by protein, crispness and crunchiness, so bread pudding is stodgy, a sandwich less so and toast maybe not at all. Roast potatoes should not be stodgy, nor should Yorkshire pudding. Suet pudding is stodgy. Custard is transitional.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by VinnyD » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:58 am

Come to Australia! Fresh food! No stodge!
Of course pies and sausage rolls are stodgy! Why wouldn't I think that?
No porridge in Australia either, apparently. I like porridge.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by temporaryhandle2 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:54 am

I like porridge too. Especially with a little brown sugar.

It's better than scones with pig fat and white sauce ladled over them.

And much healthier, too.

In fact eating porridge would help you repair the damage caused by the scones and pig fat.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by VinnyD » Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:11 pm

I like both porridge and pig fat.

Do you never eat pig fat, temp?

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by temporaryhandle2 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:13 pm

Never, Vinny.

Tastes disgusting.

Edit to apologise. I was a bit blunt. I don't know why, I have never liked pig fat. The smell of it cooking and the taste have made me nauseous for as long as I can remember. I can manage a little bit of ham in a sandwich, though.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:13 pm

I can't be in the same room as porridge.

I'd eat biscuits n gravy up, ask for seconds, lick the plate, lick the serving spoon.

Before I even thought about going near a bowl of porridge.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by VinnyD » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:05 pm

No pig fat, no bacon. CASE CLOSED!

Also, veronica and I agree that the best shortening for a pie crust is half butter, half lard. I say all lard for savory pies, but she doesn't make savory pies.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by strife » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:14 pm

temporaryhandle2 wrote:
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Never, Vinny.

Tastes disgusting.

Edit to apologise. I was a bit blunt. I don't know why, I have never liked pig fat. The smell of it cooking and the taste have made me nauseous for as long as I can remember. I can manage a little bit of ham in a sandwich, though.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by section8 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:53 pm

I used sausage spiked with a lot of paprika, thus the orange tint to the gravy.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by EMG » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:36 am

Yeah the color is all wrong, but it probably tasted good.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Stan In Maryland » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:48 pm

it is one of those dishes that can taste very good, but will never photograph very well.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue May 01, 2018 9:43 am

Let's be honest it scores 1/10 on the visuals. My dog would look twice at that.

So that's one of the senses knocked out.

How does it feel if you rub it on your groin?

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Iolar » Tue May 01, 2018 9:50 am

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Porridge with popcorn!
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by temporaryhandle2 » Tue May 01, 2018 10:02 am

How much do you charge for that overworked monstrosity? It doesn't come much more pretentious than that.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Iolar » Tue May 01, 2018 10:10 am

€7. That was a previous iteration of our porridge. I wouldn't consider it a monstrosity. It was tasty and interesting.

So few of you know what 'pretentious' means!
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by temporaryhandle2 » Tue May 01, 2018 10:11 am

It's silly. Really, really silly. Did the pansies come from your front garden?

Your customers are obviously stupid and rich. In finance, are they?

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Iolar » Tue May 01, 2018 10:13 am

Why is it silly? Does porridge have to be a bowl of insipid gruel?

My customers enjoy nice food and coffee. Some are rich, some aren't. €7 for breakfast isn't going to break the bank for anyone with a job here.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue May 01, 2018 10:15 am

I wouldn't eat a bowl of porridge if you gave me 7 euros

The mark up on that meal is probably 700% on fully loaded cost.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Iolar » Tue May 01, 2018 10:17 am

Stephen_Dedalus wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 10:15 am
I wouldn't eat a bowl of porridge if you gave me 7 euros

The mark up on that meal is probably 700% on fully loaded cost.

April's porridge. No popcorn.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Unwashed_Pom » Tue May 01, 2018 10:18 am

Iolar wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 9:50 am
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Porridge with popcorn!
Unbelievable. What is that monstrosity? From where I'm sitting it looks like a meeting of bleached loose stools, freeze dried hemorrhoids with a menses reduction.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Unwashed_Pom » Tue May 01, 2018 10:19 am

I'll take the coffee thanks.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by temporaryhandle2 » Tue May 01, 2018 10:19 am

Do you reuse the pansies?

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Iolar » Tue May 01, 2018 10:22 am

The flowers are edible. Everything served on delph is edible here. I accept that might seem astonishing in a country where leather is served on a plate and called 'beef'.

Funnily, a lot of our customers are Australians. They seem to like our food.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by temporaryhandle2 » Tue May 01, 2018 10:25 am

Poor iolar. Do proud of his yummy porridge, corn and flowers.

It's cutting edge stuff in Ireland!

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Iolar » Tue May 01, 2018 10:36 am

I don't think it's cutting edge stuff at all. Why do you think I'm proud? You're projecting.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue May 01, 2018 10:37 am

I might pay 7 euros for that coffee and some buttery toasted soda bread. If I also got a read of a "free" paper.

I appreciate the angel in the foam. That's worth 50 cents alone

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Iolar » Tue May 01, 2018 10:41 am

The coffee and porridge is €10.50. Toast and coffee is €7. It's sourdough that we make. I don't provide newspapers.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Iolar » Tue May 01, 2018 10:42 am

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May's porridge. No popcorn.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by VinnyD » Tue May 01, 2018 10:43 am

What is delph?

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Iolar » Tue May 01, 2018 10:45 am

VinnyD wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 10:43 am
What is delph?
A synonym for crockery that's used in Ireland. Comes from Delft, I think.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

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Iolar wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 10:36 am
I don't think it's cutting edge stuff at all. Why do you think I'm proud? You're projecting.
Pretentious, Projecting.

You have a lot of trouble with words, don't you?

If I was you, I'd stick to talking to the bogans in your head. They make you feel safe.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue May 01, 2018 10:45 am

Iolar wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 10:41 am
The coffee and porridge is €10.50.
Hold the porridge

Give me a fry up

And you might have a deal.

I will even bring my own feckin newspaper

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue May 01, 2018 10:46 am

Iolar wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 10:45 am
VinnyD wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 10:43 am
What is delph?
A synonym for crockery that's used in Ireland. Comes from Delft, I think.
My father was always telling me to clear the delph from the draining board.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Iolar » Tue May 01, 2018 10:50 am

If I was you
As well as ostensible issues with words beginning with the letter 'p', do you have issues with the subjective mood? Is it pretentious or pedantic (another p word) of me to highlight that?

Why are you so begrudging? It's a very unattractive trait. You should work on it.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by temporaryhandle2 » Tue May 01, 2018 10:51 am

Bogans, bogans, bogans.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Iolar » Tue May 01, 2018 10:51 am

Stephen_Dedalus wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 10:45 am
Iolar wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 10:41 am
The coffee and porridge is €10.50.
Hold the porridge

Give me a fry up

And you might have a deal.

I will even bring my own feckin newspaper
We don't do fries.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue May 01, 2018 10:52 am

You don't seem to do value for money either

It works though, so all power to you
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Iolar » Tue May 01, 2018 10:53 am

temporaryhandle2 wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 10:51 am
Bogans, bogans, bogans.
It's interesting that you find food on the other side of the world silly. I find you silly. A silly woman who is obviously very unhappy.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Iolar » Tue May 01, 2018 10:53 am

Stephen_Dedalus wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 10:52 am
You don't seem to do value for money either

It works though, so all power to you
I'm in Dublin. My prices are normal for Dublin, maybe a little cheap compared to my competitors.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue May 01, 2018 10:57 am

I can get a top class fry up in central London for £15, including beverages and broadsheet

I won't feel hungry for the rest of the day.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Iolar » Tue May 01, 2018 11:01 am

You can get a fry in London for under £5. Wages in the hospitality sectorare significantly lower in London than they are in Dublin. Wages are a huge expense for food businesses. If I were paying London wages, I could afford to sell my offering at London prices.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by VinnyD » Tue May 01, 2018 11:04 am

Iolar wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 10:45 am
VinnyD wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 10:43 am
What is delph?
A synonym for crockery that's used in Ireland. Comes from Delft, I think.
Thanks.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue May 01, 2018 11:05 am

I didn't post about getting a fry up for £5. You can reread what I posted if you like.

Personally I would be ashamed to charge that amount for a tablespoon of oats and a coffee.

But, all power to you, there is a full market of idiots with cash to burn out there.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by leela » Tue May 01, 2018 11:44 am

I've bought nice porridge for breakfast. It can be made into a really enjoyable breakfast with added flavours and touches such as iolar's. (Though hold the popcorn for me, it gets in my teeth)

Anyone who buys pizza should be more troubled with the markup on that. Flour and water, with a tiny bit of stuff on top.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by EMG » Tue May 01, 2018 12:46 pm

Those are beautiful plates of porridge. Kudos for being able to turn a bland looking dish into a work of art.

I think some of you let your general dislike of Iolar get in the way of being able to appreciate something. I wish I could plate food that well.

Edible flowers are like a plating hack though. They make everything look nice.

Now I think Iolar should challenge his cooks to artistically plate biscuits and gravy.

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Re: Biscuits and Gravy

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue May 01, 2018 12:54 pm

I don't dislike iolaR, he's been one of my consistent top 5 favourite posters for a decade.

I like to pull his leg, but I also like to give him my honest opinion - for what its worth.

I don't care how well food is plated, I'm not paying 11 euros for porridge and coffee.

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