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Gaming the self-driving cars

Post by birdlite » Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:53 pm

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6027 ... edium=post

Humans Will Bully Mild-Mannered Autonomous Cars

Drivers, pedestrians, and cyclists alike may find themselves taking advantage of the safety features built into risk-averse robotic vehicles.

Step in front of an autonomous car, and it should stop. Cut one off while you’re driving, and it should hit the brakes. These are obvious safety features to build into robotic vehicles—but they also leave open the possibility for humans to game their behavior. It's easy to imagine how cyclists might rule the roads of New York City if all taxis are driverless.

That’s certainly a fear for Volvo. Speaking to the Guardian, the company’s senior technical leader, Erik Coelingh, explained that the automaker plans to leave its self-driving cars unmarked during upcoming London trials so that human drivers aren’t tempted to take advantage. “I’m pretty sure that people will challenge them if they are marked by doing really harsh braking ... or putting themselves in the way,” he said.
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But dialing up how daring the cars are to match human drivers can only go so far—not least because there will always be people who drive aggressively in order to get an edge. In fact, Discover points to a study carried out by the London School of Economics, which found that drivers who are “combative” on the road are more welcoming of autonomous cars. That could be because they think they’ll be pushovers.

Pedestrians may think similarly. A new study from the University of California, Santa Cruz, has modeled how pedestrians and autonomous vehicles might interact using game theory—in essence applying a little academic thinking to the everyday game of playing chicken with traffic. The conclusion? “Because autonomous vehicles will be risk-averse ... pedestrians will be able to behave with impunity, and autonomous vehicles may facilitate a shift toward pedestrian-oriented urban neighborhoods,” writes the author, Adam Millard-Ball.


I just see this in my head as an early 2D video game. Or better yet--pinball

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Re: Gaming the self-driving cars

Post by DCComic » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:58 pm

You're making your way through town traffic in your robocar. It drives like a pussy and you want to make progress. You switch it back to manual to push on.
Cyclists and
Edestrians get wise to this. They look to see if the guy in the driver seat is looking out or looking at his phone. Phone means robomode means safe, except when it doesn't. Meanwhile people in cars adopt strategies to look driver-ish while texting. Head up phone displays on the windscreen. 'I can't believe he's not driving' mannequins.

Gadgets appear that the user points at a car to spot if the radar is doing its thing.
More gadgets appear to jam or fool the first gadget.
There is an arms race.

Cities create robo-only lanes, then add studs then humps and finally fences to segregate them...

Pedestrians vault fences. Hackers tweak their car's reaction times. War follows shortly.
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Post by Agent009 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:26 pm

This is a bit old, but it made me larf then, and now...

WASHINGTON, D.C., June 26, 2038 — It is now illegal to drive in the U.S.

In a unanimous 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court today let stand a lower-court ruling that upheld Elons' Law — effectively banning all non-self-driving cars from public roads, except for a handful of specially designated roadways scattered throughout the country. Elon's Law was enacted after the fiery deaths of the entire Elon family in September of 2030.

'Bittersweet victory'
"We're obviously happy with the Supreme Court's decision," said Manny Elon, father of Randal Elon and grandfather to the four children killed in the infamous crash, "but this is a bittersweet victory to say the least."

The high court's ruling will have little effect on the vast majority of Americans. Because of soaring insurance premiums, manually driving a vehicle has been largely limited to the very wealthy for the past several years. In an era when autonomous cars cost very little to insure, most travelers have zero interest in paying thousands of dollars a month in insurance premiums to drive themselves. The ease of autonomous ride-sharing services has also dramatically reduced the number of manual drivers on the road. Both car ownership and the number of licensed drivers in the U.S. have fallen to levels not seen since the auto industry was in its infancy, and most people under 25 have never learned to drive.

The turning point
On September 7, 2030, Anthony J. Jenkins ran a red light at the intersection of Broadway St. and Gentry Ave. in Checotah, Oklahoma. An autonomous vehicle crossing the intersection was able to maneuver and avoid a collision, but the near-miss caused Jenkins to swerve his antique 2006 Hummer directly into a self-driving car stopped for the light on the other side of the intersection.

Inside the autonomous vehicle, the six-member Elon family was pinned by the force of the collision, and burned to death when the Hummer's gas tank exploded. Randal and his wife Elaine were killed, along with their four children ranging in age from 16 weeks to 16 years. Jenkins suffered only minor injuries.

'I consider it murder'
At a time when the self-driving revolution had caused traffic fatalities to plunge from 30,000 annually in the U.S. to roughly 1,000 — all attributed to manual drivers -- the death of the Elons garnered an enormous amount of attention worldwide. Manny Elon pushed for murder charges against Jenkins, arguing his son's family would be alive if Jenkins had not been operating a vehicle manually. "There's no reason a thousand people have to die every year just because some people want the 'freedom' to keep driving manually," Elon said at the time. "I consider it murder, pure and simple. That man had a choice to make, knowing full well his choice could kill people."

Though officials declined to charge Jenkins with murder, he was eventually convicted on six counts of vehicular manslaughter. He would later lose a multi-million-dollar civil lawsuit brought by Manny Elon.

Elons' Law
The accident galvanized public opinion against manually operated vehicles, and the cost of insuring drivers skyrocketed higher. Car ownership had been in a steep decline already as self-driving ride-sharing services made owning a vehicle less attractive financially. Existing owners of non-autonomous cars had several choices for sub-$1,000 self-driving conversion kits.

With that as background, New York became the first state to outlaw manual driving in early 2032, in legislation that became known as Elons' Law. Other than two scenic roadways in the northern part of the state, manually operated vehicles were ruled off-limits on all public roads.

Driving rights groups challenged Elons' Law in court, arguing manual drivers have a right to operate vehicles on taxpayer-funded roads, especially those that receive federal funding. The challenge wound its way through the courts, and last year the Supreme Court agreed to hear arguments in the case.

After New York passed Elons' Law, all but three states followed suit that year. In 2033 the final three holdouts — Maine, Texas, and, ironically, Oklahoma — passed their own anti-driving laws. Although all faced various legal challenges, today's high-court decision effectively solidifies the states' right to ban manual driving.

Supreme opinion
In writing the high court's opinion, Chief Justice Elena Kagan said, "This Court has long held that states have the right to regulate safety on their roads. While acknowledging the long heritage of the manually operated automobile in the U.S., and the desire by some to continue to participate in this heritage, we cannot ignore that it is has been responsible for tens of thousands of deaths, and many times more injuries, since autonomous alternatives became available. Although these numbers have dwindled because of fewer manually operated vehicles on the road, it can no longer be disputed that several states have a rational basis for prohibiting manual driving. Indeed, while citizens have the right to travel upon the highways, the states have a compelling interest in preventing the continuing carnage on their thoroughfares."

Those who wish to control a vehicle still have options, of course. Motorcycles remain legal, and 14 states have specially designated roadways that allow manual driving. There are also the dozens of private "drive parks" that have sprung up in the past decade, including the national Drive-Bye chain.

But for most, today indeed marks the end of a 140-year era of driving in America.

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Re: Gaming the self-driving cars

Post by VinnyD » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:50 pm

DCC, you are assuming a driverless car that a human being can take over.

That is not what people dream of. They dream of no steering wheel.

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Post by DCComic » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:10 am

VinnyD wrote:DCC, you are assuming a driverless car that a human being can take over.

That is not what people dream of. They dream of no steering wheel.



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Re: Gaming the self-driving cars

Post by rider5 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:32 am

So 2020? Is that going to be the debut of level 4 self driving cars mutha?

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Re: Gaming the self-driving cars

Post by Electrolyte » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:26 pm

There are times when I am driving aggressively when I would much prefer a ride in a pussified car that takes a little longer but I can sit back and relax.

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