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It was the coloreds who done this to me!!!!

Post by Godjira » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:53 am

Romney attributes loss to 'gifts' Obama gave minorities
The former nominee says in a phone call to donors that the president gave 'a lot of stuff' to African Americans, Latinos and young people during his first term in order to secure their votes.


By Maeve Reston, Los Angeles Times

November 15, 2012

Mitt Romney said Wednesday that his loss to President Obama was due in large part to his rival's strategy of giving "gifts" during his first term to three groups that were pivotal in the results of last week's election: African Americans, Latinos and young voters.

"The Obama campaign was following the old playbook of giving a lot of stuff to groups that they hoped they could get to vote for them and be motivated to go out to the polls, specifically the African American community, the Hispanic community and young people," Romney told hundreds of donors during a telephone town hall Wednesday. "In each case they were very generous in what they gave to those groups."

Romney's frank analysis echoed his secretly taped comments at a May fundraiser, where he told a small group of donors that 47% of the electorate was unlikely to vote for him because they paid no income taxes and were dependent on government. It followed his running mate Paul D. Ryan's assertion that Obama's win stemmed from turnout among "urban" voters.

Both were at odds with the election results — Obama won several key states without large cities or minority populations. And he did so in part by asserting that it was Romney who was planning to disburse gifts — by virtue of a budget plan that included tax breaks heavily skewed toward the wealthy.

The Los Angeles Times listened in to the Wednesday call, but Romney did not appear to be aware of the presence of reporters.

Young voters, Romney said, were motivated by the administration's plan for partial forgiveness of college loan interest, the extension of health coverage for students up to age 26 on their parents' insurance plans and free contraception coverage under Obama's healthcare plan, which he credited with ushering greater numbers of college-age women into Obama's coalition.

The extended insurance coverage, in particular, was "a big gift to young people," he said, noting that they turned out as a "larger share in this election even than in 2008."

Romney said the Obama healthcare plan's promise of coverage "in perpetuity" was behind the intensity of support for the president among African American voters making $25,000 to $35,000, as well as Hispanic voters:

"With regards to African American voters, 'Obamacare' was a huge plus — and was highly motivational to African American voters. You can imagine for somebody making $25—, or $30—, or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free healthcare — particularly if you don't have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 a family, in perpetuity, I mean this is huge. Likewise with Hispanic voters, free healthcare was a big plus."

Pivoting to immigration, Romney said the Obama campaign's efforts to paint him as "anti-immigrant" had been effective and that the administration's promise to offer what he called "amnesty" to the children of undocumented immigrants had helped turn out Latino voters in record numbers.

"With regards to Hispanic voters, the amnesty for the children of illegals — the so-called Dream Act kids — was a huge plus for that voting group," he said. "On the negative side, of course, they always characterized us as being anti-immigrant, being tough on illegal immigration, and so forth, so that was very effective with that group."

"The president's campaign," he said, "focused on giving targeted groups a big gift — so he made a big effort on small things. Those small things, by the way, add up to trillions of dollars."

Romney's analysis that voters had essentially been persuaded by financial benefit to vote for Obama pushed aside criticisms of his own campaign. Analysts who have studied the vote, for example, have given credit to Obama's massive get-out-the-vote effort, which dwarfed its Republican counterpart.

Polls and interviews also suggested that, in part, those voters were driven to Obama by the Republican's conservative positions on issues like immigration, abortion and the role of government. Among African American voters, pride in the nation's first black president was also a key element.

The Romney call came on the same day that Obama told questioners at a news conference in Washington that he hoped to talk to his Republican opponent before the end of the year about ways they could work together.

"There are certain aspects of Gov. Romney's record and his ideas that I think could be very helpful," Obama said, citing as possibilities eliminating government waste and increasing efficiency, a "skill set" he said Romney had as a result of his tenure leading the Salt Lake City Olympic Games.

The Wednesday donor call was organized by Romney's finance team and included a final rundown of fundraising efforts as well as an analysis by Romney pollster Neil Newhouse, who has been criticized by some Republicans for misleading the candidate about his chances.

"I am very sorry that we didn't win," Romney told the donors. "I know that you expected to win. We expected to win.... It was very close, but close doesn't count in this business."

Romney reflected on the trajectory that led to last week's loss, acknowledging that he had "gotten beat up pretty bad" by Obama and his allies after the primaries, but noting his rebound after the first fall debate.

The Republican nominee avoided any recriminations about his team or a second-guessing of their efforts, calling the organization "a very solid team that got along."

Romney added that there was "no drama in the campaign — not that everybody was perfect; everybody has flat sides, but we learned how to accommodate each other's strengths and weaknesses, to build on the strengths."

"The organization did not get in the way," he said.

In words of thanks for his donors, Romney said he never expected the campaign to raise more than $500 million. The Romney team ultimately raised more than $900 million, according to finance chairman Spencer Zwick, who reviewed some of the final tallies during the call.

Romney said he and his team were discussing how to keep the campaign's donor group connected — perhaps with annual meetings or a monthly newsletter — "so we can stay informed and have influence on the direction of the party, and perhaps the selection of a future nominee."

"Which, by the way," he added with a chuckle, "will not be me."

The former Massachusetts governor said he was trying to turn his thoughts to what he would do going forward.

"But frankly," he said, "we're still so troubled by the past, it's hard to put together our plans for the future."


Going forward I hope the door doesn't hit him on the ass.

Predictable, but the bright side is that this is how most of the GOP and their supporters think and their way is on the way out.
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Post by salmonid » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:02 am

Oh Mitthew, how this country will mourn you not being president.

Seriously, what a dick.

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Post by incognita » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:09 am

Don't forget Paul Ryan's excuse that too many 'urban voters' came out for Obama. Matched set, those two.
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Post by cuchulainn » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:10 am

Whitey works, darkies take.
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Post by 2wilzgood » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:16 am

You can imagine for somebody making $25—, or $30—, or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free healthcare — particularly if you don't have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 a family, in perpetuity, I mean this is huge. Likewise with Hispanic voters, free healthcare was a big plus


For somebody making $25,000, well, what, $10,000 a family in insurance coverage is, um, OUT OF REACH. aka HUGE.
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Post by Godjira » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:20 am

Instead of trying to find his own way to tell someone making 25K or 35K a year they're going to get healthcare, Romney and the GOP found it's easier just to say "screw you"- but it's not going to get you votes, no matter what the color of the voter.
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Post by judik » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:51 am

Victim mentality is trickle down
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Post by birdlite » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:22 am

2wilzgood wrote:
You can imagine for somebody making $25—, or $30—, or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free healthcare — particularly if you don't have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 a family, in perpetuity, I mean this is huge. Likewise with Hispanic voters, free healthcare was a big plus


For somebody making $25,000, well, what, $10,000 a family in insurance coverage is, um, OUT OF REACH. aka HUGE.


So who does he think pays for their medical care now? I do. We do. At our hospitals, at our pharmacies.

We pay in infant deaths. In poor school, performance. In pregnant teens.

What a freakin' idiot

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Post by tph24601 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:39 am

incognita wrote:Don't forget Paul Ryan's excuse that too many 'urban voters' came out for Obama. Matched set, those two.

clearly it's the urban (code word for negro) votes that help the kenyan muslim socialist to win urban states like Iowa and NH

i like the way they are still keeping their base inside that GOP bubble, as long as the GOP voters still think there is nothing wrong with their messages (just need a better messager), they are still going to put out the same losing platform next time

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Post by AnnieOakley » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:30 am

tph24601 wrote:...Santorum 2016!


With that delightful Ms. Bachmann, I hope.
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Post by Scott_Baio » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:08 pm

Funny how you people see that pointing out the obvious is seen as "being the victim".

I work in the black community on the South Side of Chicago and down here the victim mentality is passed down from generation to generation.

I've been told several times that EVERYONE would take Section 8 housing if it was given to them. Abusing benefits is a cultural thing down here. They feel as if they deserve them. That they are owed these benefits.
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Post by cowtown » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:47 pm

It’s just the GOP’s extension of the post-election national narrative that I heard from both sides – I disagreed with it and found it insulting

Yeah, they took it one step further but if the GOP lost due to the minority vote, why? The GOP thinks they were bought off…d’uh

I’ll say it again, Romney lost because he is a cunt….and his economic polices suck and enough people are wise to it…this is a way the GOP can keep pushing those failed polices which are really buying off the Corporate Masters and upper incomes

Maybe we should look at who is getting more bang/vote for the buck?

How much did it cost the government to buy off the minority vote + what it cost those voters in campaign donations vs how much it will cost the government for the upper class and corporate tax breaks + what it cost those voters in campaign donations?

Looks like Obama got us a much better deal and is a far better businessmen



so Baio, if you were offered Section 8 housing, you wouldn't take it?

yet you buy ties out of the back of a car

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Post by Electrolyte » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:33 pm

Imagine some piece of "ghetto trash" that Romney scorns. Imagine this guy makes it to the big time and becomes a heavyweight contender. Then he loses a big prize fight. What does he say after he loses? Does he say "the referee cheated me", "the other guy was lucky", "he hit me below the belt", etc ...

No, I imagine he says "I'm disappointed, but I have to admit he fought a great fight."

Maybe Romney could learn something from this "ghetto trash" that he didn't learn at Harvard.

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Post by q5q » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:08 pm

rmoney actually makes me miss w a little, who for all his failings isn't an absolute entitled privileged arrogant prick.
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Post by tph24601 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:14 pm

q5q wrote:rmoney actually makes me miss w a little, who for all his failings isn't an absolute entitled privileged arrogant prick.

Hmmm, w seemed pretty arrogant, and certainly privileged, not to mention a definite prick
But I'd still rather be hanging out with w than lord Romney, and if you think he is bad, I hate to think how bitchy Anne Romney really is....

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Post by Electrolyte » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:33 pm

I think you guys are only saying that because Bush has been humbled. Imagine what you would think of him if his presidency had been considered a success.

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Post by salmonid » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:44 pm

Bush paraded around with a codpiece. Yes, later in his term even he seemed to recognize with horror what a failure he was, but I wouldn't call him humble.

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Post by Electrolyte » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:46 pm

Humbled is not the same as humble.

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