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The biggest victory on Tuesday

Post by incognita » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:04 pm

Karl Rove's Crossroads PAC & Sheldon Adelson spent vast sums of money trying to swing the election their way. All of their candidates lost. Citizens beat Citizens United.
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Re: The biggest victory on Tuesday

Post by AnnieOakley » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:11 pm

Something like $11M on 7 congressional races, and they all got whupped. Bummer.
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Re: The biggest victory on Tuesday

Post by incognita » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:14 pm

Rove talked people into giving him a total of $300+ million. Oops. I'll be glad to see that little toad get the boot.
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Re: The biggest victory on Tuesday

Post by tph24601 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:31 pm

Obama's $1bn beat Romney's $1.5bn, so it's not exactly David vs Galiath

so It's not like A's moneyball beating the unlimited budget of the Yankees, more like the only slightly lower payroll Redsox or Dodger beating the Yankees

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Re: The biggest victory on Tuesday

Post by eric84 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:33 pm

It was particularly gratifying to see in North Dakota.....Crossroads blanketed that state with ads in a Republican-dominated state and it failed. Hopefully, this will make big money GOPers think twice about sending their money down a sinkhole.
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Re: The biggest victory on Tuesday

Post by judik » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:31 pm

The irony of the party of fiscal responsibility,wasting so much money on a losing effort does not escape me
Or most thinking people
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Re: The biggest victory on Tuesday

Post by Logg » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:55 pm

I agree. 2008 was a much more exciting win for the Dems, but the last four years felt anything but triumphal, with the Republicans going into full war mode against the Democrats for four years, issuing warnings and threats about taking back the country from Kenyan Marxists with fake birth certificates.

Tuesday's results feel like a big fuck you to all that. The Republicans fought the 2008 results with everything they had, and they lost. In a way, 2012 is a bigger victory for the Dems. than 2008, because they had to fight for what they won in '08.

Though it is notable that the Republicans kept the House. Not sure if Boehner will feel vindicated over his own hardline stance and want to continue it for another 2-4 years based on these results.

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Re: The biggest victory on Tuesday

Post by i_have_shiny_shoes » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:19 pm

Logg wrote:Though it is notable that the Republicans kept the House. Not sure if Boehner will feel vindicated over his own hardline stance and want to continue it for another 2-4 years based on these results.


An enormous part of that was played by the huge redistricting exercise in 2010. The Democrats may have taken the House too based on previous House districts. If I remember rightly, a 1.25% vote advantage on average was baked in to many Republican seats.

I'd also say three equally big victories happened - ACA is here to stay; Supreme Court; the status of gay people in the US.
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Post by joeyramone » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:28 pm

redistricting was huge; when it wasn't an issue, dems did quite well (see: the Senate)
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Re: The biggest victory on Tuesday

Post by incognita » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:47 am

Follow the money here, interesting site:

http://reporting.sunlightfoundation.com ... nvestment/
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Re: The biggest victory on Tuesday

Post by judik » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:42 am

Sheldon Adelson must feel like he rolled snake eyes
Not much to show after 57 million spent
But then again, it is only pocket change
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Re: The biggest victory on Tuesday

Post by tph24601 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:10 am

what's $50m to an 80-year-old multi-billionaire?

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Re: The biggest victory on Tuesday

Post by AnnieOakley » Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:38 pm

Lunch money.
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