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Obama-Biden or McCain-Palin? Or Paul-Hulka?

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Yes - the recount in Duckass Nebraska is only interesting to the most anal of nerds
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Post by northern_goddess » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:59 am

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This is what we get for 69?!!!
I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

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Post by judik » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:00 am

I knowwww
Pretty disappointing :(
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Post by zara » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:07 am

I almost posted for 69, but thought I'd give some other perv a chance.

Next... the year this song was #1:
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Post by q5q » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:02 pm

judik wrote:I knowwww
Pretty disappointing :(


? whatever did y'all want?
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Post by judik » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:06 pm

Jeez,q do we have to spell it out?
Something perverted but work safe obviously :roll:

Is that your favorite tshirt,Argo? :wink:
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Post by korgy » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:24 pm

why is Arpo stealing zara's thunder? i guess he was waiting around for the whole thread to post that 72 virgin thing, but zara beat him to it.

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Post by Mindulge » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:27 am

Don't end it, mend it!

Change it to US Presidential Election 2012

In just a few weeks, candidates will be showing up in Iowa. Mike Huckabee will be the first.

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judik wrote:Jeez,q do we have to spell it out?
Something perverted but work safe obviously :roll:

Is that your favorite tshirt,Argo? :wink:


oh, ok, then:



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oink!
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Post by judik » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:36 pm

That's my boy!!!!!!!!!

Stuff white people like
#75 Threatening to Move to Canada
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April 17, 1975
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Post by i_have_shiny_shoes » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:10 am

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we're discussing it, so it's not secret.

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Post by zara » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:22 am

80 Years of Fictional Black Presidents

America has had lots of black presidents dating back to the 1920s.
Filmmakers, novelists, musicians and TV writers have for several
decades been imagining what life would be like in the U.S. with a black
commander-in-chief. Salon writer Louis Bayard joins Alex Cohen to look
back at 80 years of black presidents in popular culture. ~ NPR

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Post by judik » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:23 am

Heh,we're sucking them in
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Heh, a twofer,Dr Ken!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aren't we on 85?
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Post by zara » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:18 am

85?

Hmm, I have one but it's NSFW...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifQK_86Nk-A

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what she
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Post by zara » Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:56 pm

:lol:

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Post by q5q » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:45 pm

korgy wrote:what she
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we're on 86, not 69.
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Post by foolsprogress » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:22 am

Better than mine. I had a German 88-mm artillery piece ready to go. But that Steinway is a beautiful instrument.
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Post by q5q » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:06 pm

thanks.

offhand no 89 comes to mind; any artillery there?
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Post by foolsprogress » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:30 pm

Not yet. The artillery came to mind from old Euro UNTACer I worked with in Battambang back when the war was still going on. Everytime there was some distant explosion, which were kind of regular, he'd dive under the table screaming "There using the 88s on us!" It became a bit of a joke. He barely made it through the contract.
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Post by q5q » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:54 pm

untac...united nations tactical air command?

explosions, etc., would get on my nerves after a while, too.
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United Nations Transitional Authority in Cambodia
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ah. you've been there a while.
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Post by foolsprogress » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:23 pm

Yeah. That was back in 93. My first contract here.
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Vietnamese Quit Cambodia Today But Face Heavy Burdens at Home
By STEVEN ERLANGER, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES
September 26, 1989

For a country about to enjoy what could be its first prolonged period of peace in many decades, Vietnam today displays little sense of celebration.

The long Cambodian military adventure, nearly 11 years requiring much sacrifice from the common soldier and citizen, officially ends Tuesday when the last Vietnamese infantryman is scheduled to cross the border at Moc Bai in Tay Ninh Province.

But the experience in Cambodia is ending in ambivalence, with no ringing victory. Vietnam's client regime in Cambodia is established, but not quite secure. While at least 25,300 Vietnamese soldiers have died and 55,000 have been seriously wounded, the Khmer Rouge still threaten the Cambodian Government that Hanoi installed after it invaded on Dec. 25, 1978, quickly overthrowing the Khmer Rouge regime of Pol Pot. No Diplomatic Payoff

Diplomatically, too, there is no evident payoff for Vietnam for having finally heeded Western and Asian calls for a withdrawal. The United States remains standoffish, insisting on a comprehensive diplomatic settlement in Cambodia - which now seems far away - before normalizing relations with Vietnam or, it seems, lifting an embargo on aid and trade with Hanoi.

Rather than national joy, there is increased weariness as the Vietnamese, more than a million of whom died in the Vietnam War, concentrate on the many problems this tattered and still isolated nation continues to face. Among them is overpopulation, unemployment, increasing crime, intermittent hunger, party corruption, an aged leadership and even a Communist world that is no longer familiar, with cracks in Poland, Hungary and the Soviet Union seeming to sunder the bloc.

About Cambodia, a noted Vietnamese writer said: ''There is individual relief, that our fighting is over, and collective resignation. We have borne a great sacrifice, and we could bear no more.'' The Cambodians, he said, ''will just have to do the best they can.''

For most individuals here, even the leadership question is scarcely worth discussing. ''It's them and us,'' said a young man in a cafe. ''It seems that they don't often think of us, and we don't think of them.'' 'A Chance to Rebuild'

A Vietnamese official said: ''Withdrawing from Cambodia doesn't mean we have a sigh of relaxation. But it is very important, for now we have a chance to rebuild our own society in an easier atmosphere.''

The central issue for Vietnam today is the economy. Despite improvements since recent moves away from central management and state subsidies, the economy still lags considerably behind the aspirations of the people, whose numbers are growing rapidly. Many of these economic concerns tend to be expressed as a determination to try to give decent jobs, or at least job training, to returning soldiers.

This city has already experienced difficulties caused by some demobilized soldiers no longer content with the farm who come here but find little work, and with city-born veterans who join criminal gangs.

''Spiritually,'' a senior editor said, ''all they get is a medal.''

The Government's policy is to give returning soldiers some priority in schools, hospitals and job placement, and in chances to work abroad, a program intended to ease the job pressure here and to help pay Vietnam's external debts. Officially, veterans also have the right to return to their former employers. In Conflict With Reality

''The problem is the reality and capacity of the society,'' the editor said. ''That very factory doesn't have material with which to work, so what can they do? The policy and the reality are very different.''

Another senior journalist said: ''They think they have contributed to the country, and they want society to be grateful. But in this economic situation, there are many difficulties. We cannot afford what each one of them wants. That's our most difficult problem.''

There has also been some friction between those who fought in brutal surroundings, with rampant malaria and often inadequate food and shelter, and those who remained at home.

''There are people in the same generation who did not have to participate in the Cambodian war, who just stayed here and did smuggling and had a happy life,'' another writer said, ''I worry about the consequences.'' Crime Is on the Rise

These feelings mix with another source of national shame - the flight of Vietnamese in flimsy boats to whatever country might possibly take them. People joke bitterly, ''If the lamppost could walk, it would go, too.''

At the same time, the press is full of articles about increasing crime, of housebreaking and acts of violence.

Responsible people speak with some despair of the growing ''chaos'' of life.

Despite the domestic problems, the Vietnamese feel much pride in having rid Cambodia of Pol Pot, under whose rule more than a million Cambodians died.

Nguyen Duy, a much-admired poet who entered Cambodia with the Vietnamese Army as a correspondent, remembers the color black - ''the black of the pajamas, the black of the skin of those who were dying or very ill.''

''The long queues of the orphans have haunted me for 10 years,'' he said. ''The people had become animals. They ate anything they could find along the road - grass, leaves, frogs, insects. They were like the black ants of Africa that move through a field and leave it devastated. and it was Vietnamese soldiers who gave them their first grain of rice.''
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