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Being mistaken for a native?

Post by Chip_Oatley » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:25 pm

Does this ever happen to you on your travels?

I've been mistaken for Icelandic by several Icelandic people in the last few days. Not just as in starting to speak to me in Icelandic, but an "oh! I thought you were Icelandic." I thought they all knew one another already.

AncestryDNA 50+% Ireland, 7% Scandi etc.

What do you think? Do I look Icelandic?

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Re: Being mistaken for a native?

Post by Chip_Oatley » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:27 pm

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Re: Being mistaken for a native?

Post by Lincoln » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:47 pm

That's you?....

Would bang!

No offense chip but the way you write on here I thought you was some big fat munter …..

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:00 pm

High praise indeed. But you have not said whether or not I look Icelandic, in your opinion.

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Post by BeatRaven » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:11 pm

I watched a pile of Icelandic films and you're in the ballpark.

Maybe a nubby turtleneck sweater would be a good winter look for you.

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:14 pm

Because my neck is starting to go?

I get eczema.

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Post by VinnyD » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:15 pm

If I recall correctly, the Icelanders have more Irish DNA than Scandinavian.

I agree with BR that you are in the ballpark. But being taken for a native may have to do with posture, gait, manner as well as with looks.

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Post by DCComic » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:16 pm

You look a bit Bjorkish.
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Re: Being mistaken for a native?

Post by Lincoln » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:31 pm

Chip_Oatley wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:00 pm
High praise indeed. But you have not said whether or not I look Icelandic, in your opinion.
Well you look a lot like Bjork in that photo ...she is very distinctive looking but wether she is typically Icelandic looking I wouldn't know.

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Post by BeatRaven » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:47 pm

from the films, it's the nubbiness fashion capital of the world. You could pull off nubby, Chip. I don't think nubby is very aging. Nubby is for all.

Saw the Bjork show at The Modern. A bit of talent well, well spread thin.

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Post by EMG » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:02 pm

Never happens to me. But I don't typically travel in countries where many people look like me.

My Mexican ex was assumed to be a native in the US, a gang of LatAm countries, Thailand, Philippines, and Korea.

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Post by Unwashed_Pom » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:41 pm

Yes, you're doing a Bjork in that happysnap. I get mistaken for a Hun everytime.

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Post by misanthrope » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:15 am

Isn't Iceland the most inbred place on earth?

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Re: Being mistaken for a native?

Post by Lost Soul » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:07 am

Lincoln wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:47 pm
That's you?....

Would bang!

No offense chip but the way you write on here I thought you was some big fat munter …..
No doubt. I can visualize where btraven gets the "smoldering" from now. You go girl.

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AncestryDNA 50+% Ireland, 7% Scandi etc.

What do you think? Do I look Icelandic?
Yes. Iceland is composed of descendants of the second and third sons on Norway and kidnapped Irish girls. They also imported a few Polish girls and a few Skraeling girls.
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Post by Raymond_Babbitt » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:30 am

DCComic wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:16 pm
You look a bit Bjorkish.
I was gonna say thought it was a photo of Bjork so there's your answer, Chip.

It happens to me when I'm in Ireland. Mostly from other tourists who will ask me for directions.

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Post by plumsole » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:42 am

I am a tall pale white person, and have only visited countries full of short brown people. So no.

But one German chick in Malaysia started talking to me in German.

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Post by mad hatter » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:57 am

Chip_Oatley wrote:High praise indeed. But you have not said whether or not I look Icelandic, in your opinion.
the eyes yes
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Post by mad hatter » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:01 am

Lincoln wrote:That's you?....

Would bang!

No offense chip but the way you write on here I thought you was some big fat munter …..
fuck off lincs, first dibs
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Post by Scrubb » Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:13 am

In that pic you look a LOT like my cousin, who is 1/4 Scottish and 1/4 English and 1/2 Russian. Although you're paler. (Her dad is Doukhobor and fairly dark complected.) So I wouldn't have guessed Icelandic, but I don't really know what Icelandic people look like.
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Post by Chip_Oatley » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:10 pm

Scrubb wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:13 am
In that pic you look a LOT like my cousin, who is 1/4 Scottish and 1/4 English and 1/2 Russian. Although you're paler. (Her dad is Doukhobor and fairly dark complected.) So I wouldn't have guessed Icelandic, but I don't really know what Icelandic people look like.
That is Bjork. I have the same coloring, but my eyes aren't that shape.

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:24 pm

Genetic evidence suggests that approximately 62% of the Icelandic maternal gene pool is derived from Ireland and Scotland, which is much higher than other Scandinavian countries, although comparable to the Faroese, while 37% is of Nordic origin.[15] About 20-25% of the Icelandic paternal gene pool is of Gaelic origin, with the rest being Nordic.[16]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelanders

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Post by Lost Soul » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:53 pm

Chip_Oatley wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:10 pm
Scrubb wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:13 am
In that pic you look a LOT like my cousin, who is 1/4 Scottish and 1/4 English and 1/2 Russian. Although you're paler. (Her dad is Doukhobor and fairly dark complected.) So I wouldn't have guessed Icelandic, but I don't really know what Icelandic people look like.
That is Bjork. I have the same coloring, but my eyes aren't that shape.
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Post by 2wilzgood » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:08 pm

About 20-25% of the Icelandic paternal gene pool is of Gaelic origin, with the rest being Nordic.
Okay. Now, what percentage of the Irish gene pool is Nordic, and when did it get that way. Before, during, or after the colonizing of Iceland?

I mean, if the kidnapped Irish women were already 75℅ Scandi, well, then Lars's your uncle, innit?
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Post by Homerj » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:59 pm

To me no...to Marge all the time.
Someone once even thought she was brazilian (she does have a really nice bum).
I think its because she is taller than your average Chinese/Taiwanese, and she gets tanned (which is verbotten for most Asians especially ones with money).
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Post by truenic » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:16 pm

All the time. Cook Islands (some thought I might be part Polynesian with my curly hair) Mexico, Turkey, France, Spain, Colombia....

There have only been a few countries where I decidedly did not pass for a local. Japan, and Sweden. But Sweden was funny because my husband was spoken to in Swedish frequently, and he didn't speak a lick of it (I spoke a little, so would jump in).

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Post by eric84 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:24 pm

Icelanders have an app to make sure anyone they're dating isn't too close a relative. Icelandic Prime MInister was in town a few weeks ago because Manitoba has large Icelandic population north of Winnipeg.
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Post by ceylon_tea » Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:40 pm

doesn't happen to me at all. Even in Sri Lanka people think I'm a dirty foreigner. I usually get asked if I'm Indian, sometimes Brazilian or middle eastern. i haven't been to india though may be everyone will think I'm Indian.

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Post by twodogs » Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:10 pm

I get it Germany from time to time and once in Amsterdam. People have asked me for directions all over the world. It drives Mrs. Twodogs nuts when I point them along with no idea where they are going. Never had anyone come back to complain.
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Post by Homerj » Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:42 pm

Actually I get the one that is the universal piss off for most inhabitants of the GWN...."so what part of America are you from" ?
I'm going to the back seat of my car, with the woman I love, and I won't be back for ten minutes!

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Post by BeatRaven » Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:48 pm

I used troll English people in England that I was English too.

But maybe it was that over-polite, suffocating English thing where they were just shining me along.

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Post by plumsole » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:06 am

Chip_Oatley wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:10 pm
Scrubb wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:13 am
In that pic you look a LOT like my cousin, who is 1/4 Scottish and 1/4 English and 1/2 Russian. Although you're paler. (Her dad is Doukhobor and fairly dark complected.) So I wouldn't have guessed Icelandic, but I don't really know what Icelandic people look like.
That is Bjork. I have the same coloring, but my eyes aren't that shape.
Thank god. I was getting so confused by everyone's responses that I started to question what was previously immediately obvious.

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Post by DianaHaddad » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:35 am

I was constantly mistaken for a native in Iceland.
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Post by rezuar » Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:54 am

I can’t believe people couldn’t recognise Bjork on the spot.

And no, it doesn’t happen to me.
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Post by leela » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:23 am

plumsole wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:06 am
Chip_Oatley wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:10 pm
Scrubb wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:13 am
In that pic you look a LOT like my cousin, who is 1/4 Scottish and 1/4 English and 1/2 Russian. Although you're paler. (Her dad is Doukhobor and fairly dark complected.) So I wouldn't have guessed Icelandic, but I don't really know what Icelandic people look like.
That is Bjork. I have the same coloring, but my eyes aren't that shape.
Thank god. I was getting so confused by everyone's responses that I started to question what was previously immediately obvious.
Me too. And I've met Chip several times.
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Post by EMG » Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:52 am

I only know who Bjork is because her name is so strange and pops up in popular culture stories from time to time. I'd never recognize a photo of her.

Musician, I think. Or maybe a former musician.

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Post by simon_in_exile » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:15 pm

rezuar wrote:
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I can’t believe people couldn’t recognise Bjork on the spot.
I know - great thread! Although I didn’t expect so many Icelandic people would look like Björk.

When I did fieldwork in NW Pakistan ~20 years ago, I was mistaken for an Afghan immigrant on numerous occasions, by Punjabis on holiday in the mountains.

My wife gets asked for directions in Moscow ALL THE TIME so presumably she looks Russian (the hairstyle plays a part).

From the description, Tortuga clearly needs to post a photo here.
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Post by VinnyD » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:25 pm

I don't understand the point of this thread anymore.

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Post by EMG » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:40 pm

I don't get it either. Chip asked if we thinks she looks Icelandic. I have no idea what Chip looks like.

Then she posted "recent photo" and apparently a photo of someone famous, expecting us to either think it's her, or know it's not her, and understand the connection between a photo of someone famous and her.

I'm confused.

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:42 pm

My brother was often mistaken for Spanish when he was on his study abroad in Salamanca.
Unlike most Spanish instruction in the US, he'd been taught the language by a Spaniard. lisp

emg, I have been mistaken for Icelandic in Iceland. As DH said she has. That was the point of the thread--as the title indicates. Then I decided to have fun with it.

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:45 pm

EMG wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:40 pm
I have no idea what Chip looks like.
We used to be FB friends.

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Post by EMG » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:58 pm

Oh... can't remember. My FB friend list is its own evolving monster.

If I could remember your name I'd probably remember a face.

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simon_in_exile wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:15 pm
When I did fieldwork in NW Pakistan ~20 years ago, I was mistaken for an Afghan immigrant on numerous occasions, by Punjabis on holiday in the mountains.
Pakistanis thought I was Pakistani too. A lot of different looking people brough genes to the Karakorums and Hindu Kush.
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Post by Lost Soul » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:13 pm

rezuar wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:54 am
I can’t believe people couldn’t recognise Bjork on the spot.
She is ranked about 9,681st on the depth chart of celebrities in the US.

And it's not because we're anti-Euro. Paul McCartney, the Stones, Led Zeppelin, The Who, EJ and thousands more just outrank her.
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Post by VinnyD » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:24 pm

Was she hoping that we would say that Bjoörk couldn't possibly be Icelandic?

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Post by simon_in_exile » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:25 pm

Chip_Oatley wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:45 pm
EMG wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:40 pm
I have no idea what Chip looks like.
We used to be FB friends.
USED to be? Who defriended whom? (someone please check the grammar on that one...)
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Post by Chip_Oatley » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:27 pm

Vinny, you're being odd.

I did, simon. EMG was nasty to me.

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Post by simon_in_exile » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:29 pm

Good reason.

Björk is cute. Always loved her music too - she’s near the top of my “need to see live” list.
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Post by EMG » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:31 pm

Really? Being mean to Bjork doesn't sound like a thing I would do.

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Post by VinnyD » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:37 pm

One of us has been odd, Chip. I am trying to figure out the nature of the fun you were having.

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Vinny, you’re being odd.
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