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Post by Chip_Oatley » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:34 am

I've been in Kenya for 10 hours and already have it--I think from the welcome "ice tea" at the nice hotel.

Remind me--what else should I avoid? I got very ill several years ago from lettuce at a high-end Sheraton. Fresh fruit juice OK?

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:08 am

Or maybe it's the malarone. Expensive shits.

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Post by twodogs » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:40 am


More irrational spitefulness coming from twodogs...

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Post by polardude1 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:09 pm

Pepto Bismol should clear it up
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Post by Cyllarus » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:23 pm

And a cork.

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Post by EMG » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:05 pm

Immodium and buscopan.

I never know what causes it, so hard to guess because it could happen anywhere from a couple of hours to a half a day after ingesting whatever causes it. My parents were always suspicious of ice in drinks when we were living in Brazil.

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Post by cuchulainn » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:45 pm

I would eat some local dairy products to get some of the local gut bacteria in your system.

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Post by dBrother » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:47 am

tea will do it, they dont boil the water properly.

eat local food from busy local vendors, as they just have no idea how to cook western food these foriegners.

bananas are safe too.

if all else fails dry savory biscuits and flat lemonade
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Post by Chip_Oatley » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:57 pm

cuchulainn wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:45 pm
I would eat some local dairy products to get some of the local gut bacteria in your system.
Ha.Ha.

geez, when dbro has better advice...!

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Post by Homerj » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:32 pm

Actually it's not bad advice...I have been following the same rule for many a decade, booze at night to kill whats in there, yoghurt in the a.m. to wake up them probiotics and get that stomach working again.
Have only had the bad shits twice in 35 years of travelling.
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Post by mad hatter » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:34 pm

Homerj wrote:Actually it's not bad advice...I have been following the same rule for many a decade, booze at night to kill whats in there, yoghurt in the a.m. to wake up them probiotics and get that stomach working again.
Have only had the bad shits twice in 35 years of travelling.
when dont you travel 5 star hotels these days?
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Post by Homerj » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:46 pm

Lots actually.
I just stayed in a very 2* place in Tofino BC last week, as we booked last minute and it was either $500/night or $165/night and the $165 won out.
Room wasn't great but the view was spectacular.
Most of our 5* stays are in big cities because they have excellent central locations so we can walk/transit/uber to where we want to go, or at beach resorts.
Also that is when I use my hotel points, as I'd much rather use points then spend $500-1000/night for a hotel room.
I'd say more than 50% of our stays are at less than 4*'s.
If I didn't have this vast bank of hotel points I'd further guess that 75% of our hotel stays would be at 4* or less.
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Post by mad hatter » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:49 pm

my mistake youre not likely to pickup travel bugs in Canada though are you?
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Post by Homerj » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:08 pm

Worst food poisoning I ever got in my life (3 weeks in hospital) was salmonella from a mother's day brunch right here in my hometown when I was 17.
Place got shut down not long after (had been open for 50 years) as I was one of 20 + people who got it.
But no not usually.
I'm just saying my booze-yogurt-booze -yogurt protocol has served me well in the almost 70 countries I have been to.
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Post by Chip_Oatley » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:32 pm

I laughed b/c I'm lactose-intolerant, although yogurt is generally OK.

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:33 pm

Homerj wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:08 pm
Worst food poisoning I ever got in my life (3 weeks in hospital) was salmonella from a mother's day brunch right here in my hometown when I was 17.
And mine was in NYC--salmonella from a work conference buffet when I was 22.

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Post by mad hatter » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:09 pm

mine was chicken in eastern turkey
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Post by Bastet » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:00 pm

I always travel with antibiotics and Imodium these days. If I have the shits for more than 24-48hrs I start taking the antibiotics.

I got salmonella from a 5 star hotel in Melbourne. It was fucking awful.

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Post by Geoffers » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:36 am

Hey Chip, most of the lactose in dairy products goes out with the whey, so yoghurt and cheese have very little lactose.

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:39 am

Geoffers wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:36 am
Hey Chip, most of the lactose in dairy products goes out with the whey, so yoghurt and cheese have very little lactose.
That's why I said it "yogurt is generally OK."

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Post by micvan » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:32 pm

Worst was in Mexico when I was in my 20 s. I didn't leave my room for a week. Really should have taken something but too young and stupid. Last time was in Antakya waiting to cross into Syria mild attack. But I always pick up some cipro when I go thru Istanbul and that just knocks anything out! But generally speaking I don't get sick ( I think that Mexican experience made me a tough gut!)

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Post by leela » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:43 pm

I don't really avoid anything when I'm away, other than things that need refrigeration but have clearly been sitting out for a long time. I eat salads etc, and rarely have any issues. I did have problems on the last trip, and it was from a meal that 'should' have been okay. A pasta dish, no salads, and a bottled drink.

I tend to think it's not worth restricting your diet, but I always carry a load of Imodium, in case.

We used to be instructed to fast completely for 24 hours when struck down, but health advice has changed since then. I tend to try to stick to yoghurt, toast or other bland unfatty things though.
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Post by Vivienne_Westwood » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:24 pm

Salads, tap water and ice are the usual culprits for me. Also, notnwashing hands after handling obviously manky currency. I think that was partly what got me in The Gambia - the money was umm..... highly fragrant. I forgot to wash my hands after a shopping trip, and like an idiot had salad with lunch on the same day, so it could have been either or both.

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Post by Bastet » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:37 am

I always bring antibiotics (and Imodium) when I go on a trip. If the shits hasn’t stopped for a couple of days it clears it up really got away.

I avoid ice, salad, fruit I can’t peel and any place that looks like they could be reheating rice.

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Post by polardude1 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:18 am

I always bring antibiotics (and Imodium) when I go on a trip. If the shits hasn’t stopped for a couple of days it clears it up really got away.
Imodium may keep bacteria in ou
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Post by Bastet » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:21 am

Yes, it’s not as a treatment. If I’m traveling 11hrs on a bus from Santiago de Cuba to Trinidad or climbing Machu Picchu Mountain it’s of great help.

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Post by DCComic » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:24 am

Hyrdrate and replace your electrolytes diligently.
Clean your hands diligently.
Let your body flush through, do no Imodium.
If you think you were upset by bugs in the water in a hotel you can’t trust their routines to suit you.
Drink sterile water that you boiled and treated yourself. Black tea you make yourself is OK.
Fruit you wash and peel yourself should be OK.
Dairy is often full of bugs. You may or may not be able to tolerate them.
Avoid the buffet.
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Post by veronica_inheels » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:44 am

I had it 3 times
Ice cream milkshake in Luxor, Egypt. Stupid me, ther were electricity blackouts earlier.
India- ice cream
Peru- buffet in an expensive hotel


Peru was so bad I was shitting yogurt out. Some magic antibiotic pill from the reception saved my life
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Post by cuchulainn » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:55 am

I have it now. I suppose I’ll have to go to urgent care and get a prescription.

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:35 pm

Where are you?

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Post by polardude1 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:43 pm

I had it 3 times
Ice cream milkshake in Luxor, Egypt. Stupid me, ther were electricity blackouts earlier.
India- ice cream
well I got it in Guatemala by stupidly having hand dipped ice cream in Antigua. The ice cream scooper had been sitting i water and it hepeld create a toxic cocktail in the ice cream
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Post by cuchulainn » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:50 pm

Chip_Oatley wrote:Where are you?
I’m back home, but I spent a week in Guatemala.

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:51 pm

WORMS

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Post by EMG » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:08 pm

I've only had a real bad gut twice. Once was about 8 years ago in Mexico, but it didn't hit me until I got home. The other was on my recent trip to Vietnam. Those are the kind with serious painful stomach cramping, total loss of appetite, etc. Never can be sure where it comes from.

Having the shits occasionally is pretty normal in this part of the world. I hardly notice.

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Post by veronica_inheels » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:29 pm

cuchulainn wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:50 pm
Chip_Oatley wrote:Where are you?
I’m back home, but I spent a week in Guatemala.
Chip_Oatley wrote:
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Post by cuchulainn » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:30 pm

It seems to have cleared up.

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Post by andybox » Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:14 am

Malaysia, specifically Penang. Street food but I couldn’t narrow it down to a specific cart.
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Post by GLimpet » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:48 pm

andybox wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:14 am
Malaysia, specifically Penang. Street food but I couldn’t narrow it down to a specific cart.
I got food poisoning shits from a roadside stall murtabak in Penang.

Some kind of fried wrap in Samosir Island, Lake Toba, Sumatra.

Refried cold stovies in a pub in Aberdeen.

Something I ate in India before I boarded a plane to Sydney.

Chicken pelmeniy in Almaty.

I'd go along with the "fast and drink water for 24hrs or as long as it takes" advice.

Imodium just puts a temporary plug in it.

I get normal "fast and loose motions" when I go to India and just eat vegie food for a few days.

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Post by leela » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:13 am

GLimpet wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:48 pm
Chicken pelmeniy in Almaty.
It was lagman in Almaty that did for my stomach. And I thought Almaty was going to be the more hygienically reliable place on our trip.
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Post by mishmish » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:51 pm

Immodium goes with me everywhere. Probably way out of date, come to think of it. It's like a cork, until I can get something more curing, if need be, but have always been able to just get over it. I am pretty careful about my eats in far away places and haven't had anything requiring more than a bad (and wasted) day in my room/tent/all arrangements in-between, since the big Event.

My big Event was on a remote beach in Mexico in the 1970s, which I will not repeat here again, but suffice to say, it was nasty and it took 2 days to get a subscription and I was half dead by then. Thus the immodium rule. It was the fish roasted by a fisherman. Probably getting rid of his no longer fresh catch. That or the hot sauce that went with it.

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:36 pm

I took Imodium--double doses--when I was on an Alaska wilderness trip. The result--nothing moved, so I just felt very nauseous and had no energy.

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Post by leela » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:40 pm

Imodium's worked fine for me. Can still go to the loo when necessary (and it still takes a couple of days for that to be 'normal'), but I feel in control...there's no fear of a sudden accident. That makes a big difference. Pre-Imodium, a trip could be ruined because one just couldn't risk going out, never mind travel around.

I don't double dose though (apart from the first dose, as instructed). That sounds as though it would prevent one actually evacuating anything at all.
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Post by Chip_Oatley » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:24 pm

I remember lying on the cold stone floor of a lovely B&B in Anchorage the evening before the trip was due to leave, and I had plans to meet Section8. I texted him from the floor, something like Oh I am so ill.

I should have canceled that 5 day remote trip. It was badly run and I was dragging.

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Post by micvan » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:50 am

My friends daughter has bloody shits from something she picked up in Mexico. She saved for two years to take a year off to travel she lasted 5 weeks. Most of the time sick. She even went to a doctor down there but finally her insurance flew her back they suspect she may damaged her colon

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Post by Chip_Oatley » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:11 am

:( Yikes.

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Post by strife » Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:28 pm

Dysentery in Morocco.

Sudden and violent diarrhea on a tourist street in Bali.

Food poisoning in Cuba.
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