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Post by leela » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:16 pm

I've only ever booked return flights or one single flight for big trips. So I'm clueless about flying 'real' airlines (as opposed to budget ones) to one place and back from another. Especially when I'm not sure about dates for the return leg.

So help me with flying out to Tashkent, and back from Bishkek, if you would.

In theory I could get a return to Tashkent, and get a separate flight (or maybe a train) between Bishkek and Tashkent at the end. But that would lead to visa issues. I'd need multi entry into Uzbekistan instead of single, which would restrict me to 15 days instead of 30 for my main visit there. Which might well be enough, but makes me a bit nervous.

Or I could book two singles, so I come back from Bishkek. But that will be expensive, no?

Other options? Especially any that might give me some flexibility on when I come home?
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Post by polardude1 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:29 pm

I'm guessing your options would be limited or Turkish Air or Aeroflot. Try websites tat allow for creating itineraries with multiple destinations
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Post by cummy » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:49 pm

leela: sorry but i cannot check on this for your right now. my flight to amsterdam is boarding in a few minutes. here is what you do. go onto google flights and just build your itinerary to see how it prices. A to B, and then C to A. price that as one single ticket. also price it as 2 one ways. methinks the one single ticket will price out cheaper.

as for an open date, hmmmm. that means you want a full fare econ ticket that has the utmost flexibility for changes at no additional price. these tix are pricey. price out one of those. then, price out a normal restricted non-refundable ticket .... and then add in the change fees in case you want to change the date. methinks the non-refundable ticket plus the later change fees might be less than a full fare ticket. but all of this depends on routing, airline, change fees, etc. however, if you go this route, some airlines may make you only buy the same fare class (and hope that your originally purchased fare class is available on the new date that you want), or only make you buy the next higher fare class (and thus more money for this 'add collect' fare difference), etc.

just play with google flights and see what comes out. but it would be best to have a firm return date.

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Post by leela » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:17 pm

Thanks Cummy! I hoped you'd pop by.
I'll get onto what you've suggested so far.

And yep, polar. I think Turkish will be my best bet. I even wondered about getting a return to Istanbul, and two singles for the central asia cities.
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Post by 5waldos » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:32 pm

Can you use Google Flight? If so, you can play around with one way, round trip, and multi city options. Also you can look at calendar or graph for prices. I always start with one way, usually starting at destination so I can see which airport might be best. Sometimes it is possible to save lots by , for example, going to Amsterdam and taking the major flight from there. A pain but saving hundreds or sometimes thousands can make it worth while. And sometimes one day a week might be hugely cheaper. A year back flying out of UK on Thursday saved me a lot of money- who knows why.

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Post by GLimpet » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:26 pm

What's worked for me was buying , say, a return to Seoul on Lufthansa, and then changing it so that the home leg started from Singapore. That was a £60 fee but in total worked out cheaper than any other way I priced it.

It may require some dialogue with the airline. Some of them are getting good doing this by messaging apps or chat windows on their websites.

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Post by GLimpet » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:28 pm

And what cummy said about change fees, usually far cheaper than buying full fare econ.

There might occasionally be a wait for a seat in same fare class or upgrade fee (to a fare class, not cabin class).

Never hurts to ask exactly what these fees would be and factor them in.

Another thing that's worked for me with some airlines is to suspend the return date at some point and only pay the change fee when you're certain of the date. Avoids paying multiple change fees if you need to change your date several times due to various uncertainties .

This worked with Emirates but had to visit their office and then deal with them by phone/email.
Some airlines just don't do it.

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Post by GLimpet » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:34 pm

leela wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:17 pm
Thanks Cummy! I hoped you'd pop by.
I'll get onto what you've suggested so far.

And yep, polar. I think Turkish will be my best bet. I even wondered about getting a return to Istanbul, and two singles for the central asia cities.
We do that a lot.

cummy will have a term for it, "positioning flights" or something like that.

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Post by leela » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:50 pm

Useful stuff, Glimpet. Thanks.
Might not even be Bishkek that I leave from, now. Turns out we might end up in Khazakhstan instead of Kyrgyzstan. See why I need the flexibility?
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Post by GLimpet » Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:09 pm

Don't forget budget airline FlyDubai serves Central Asia well.

If you can get to Dubai cheaply ...

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Post by leela » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:18 pm

Damn. They don't fly to Tashkent though. But nice idea. Emirates is my favorite airline so I'd have been well up for going via Dubai.
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Post by polardude1 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:34 pm

Aeroflot is another option
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Post by leela » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:33 pm

Aeroflot didn't show up on googleflights, or skyscanner. But I've just been on their website, and prices are good. What are they like to fly with?
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Post by polardude1 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:44 pm

Aeroflot didn't show up on googleflights, or skyscanner. But I've just been on their website, and prices are good. What are they like to fly with?
Not bad. Their international fleet is modern. London to Moscow would be your longest flight. i flew from JFK to Moscow on an A330. Service was decent
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Post by GLimpet » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:52 pm

Aeroflot's OK.

Their longer domestic flights are not so bad now either.

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Post by cummy » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:21 pm

i have never done aeroflot and probably never will. i have heard ok things about them. the only horror stories i hear and pax's transit experiences at DME - or the other moscow airport. wait - yeah it's DME that folks bitch about.

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Post by polardude1 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:08 pm

i have never done aeroflot and probably never will. i have heard ok things about them. the only horror stories i hear and pax's transit experiences at DME - or the other moscow airport. wait - yeah it's DME that folks bitch about.
transit was no different from anywhere else. Aeroflot had on time departures.
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Post by GLimpet » Thu May 03, 2018 8:22 pm

DME used to be the good airport. I still use it.

SVO has really caught up and passed it though.

Never used VKO but I put a guy through there last year and he said it was OK.

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Post by polardude1 » Thu May 03, 2018 9:14 pm

SVO has really caught up and passed it though.
What does Terminal F look like? Terminal D was fine the last time i was there
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Post by Boinkity_Boink » Mon May 14, 2018 9:08 am

polardude1 wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:29 pm
I'm guessing your options would be limited or Turkish Air or Aeroflot. Try websites tat allow for creating itineraries with multiple destinations
Qatar and Emirates might do it too.

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Post by leela » Tue May 15, 2018 2:00 pm

Thanks people. I've booked a return to Tashkent with Turkish Airlines, on a semi-flexible fare. There'll be charges if I change the city of my return, but it is at least doable.
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Post by GLimpet » Tue May 15, 2018 7:18 pm

Excellent.

Don't get put off by change fees, just compare them with the alternatives.

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Post by simon_in_exile » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:15 pm

polardude1 wrote:
Thu May 03, 2018 9:14 pm
SVO has really caught up and passed it though.
What does Terminal F look like? Terminal D was fine the last time i was there
It’s fine - and once you’re airside you can walk between the terminals anyway.

I much prefer flying from SVO rather than DME - there’s more to do when waiting for a flight, and the connection to the centre of town is shorter.
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Post by simon_in_exile » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:18 pm

I quite like Aeroflot too - I prefer their service compared with KLM or BA, and the legroom is generally ok.
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