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Post by dragon » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:32 am

who's been? what do you recommend?
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Post by Bill Barilko » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:55 am

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Post by polardude1 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:30 am

If you go, I would love a report. Its beee a place I've thought about going to
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Post by section8 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:37 am

I've been twice. Loved it. Want to go back and do some deep hikes. I'll try to remember specifics and post them later.
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Post by Lost Soul » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:00 am

The classic approach is the train from Chihuahua to Los Mochis. But there is a road to the canyon bottom now.

Basaseachic Falls is still a hike.
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Post by Unwashed_Pom » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:00 am

Lost Soul wrote:The classic approach is the train from Chihuahua to Los Mochis. But there is a road to the canyon bottom now.

Basaseachic Falls is still a hike.


The train up from Chihuahua was a hoot. We had to decamp the train on the ascent as the train from the previous descent was lying on its side in a paddock. People coming down exchanged pleasantries with people going up in the transit paddock and just swapped trains. From memory the bus from Juarez to Chihuahua was a boring eight hour trip.

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Post by dragon » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:55 pm

thanks! i vaguely remember that guy, bill.

yeah, the plan is to fly to chihuahua and take the train.
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Post by polardude1 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:57 pm

We need a trip report. I almost went in 2004 but I had some safety concerns if leaving out of El Paso. Bui my interest has just been reignited
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Post by Agent009 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:25 pm

keithR was quality in the wasteland that was the lp mexico branch.
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Post by Bill Barilko » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:53 pm

Agent009 wrote:keithR was quality in the wasteland that was the lp mexico branch.Always wanted to visit his place.

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Post by Total Reject » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:02 pm

Yes, but it was a long time ago. Took the train from Juarez to Chihuahua, then from Chihuahua to Creel. There were nice places to stay in Divisadero and Creel with good restaurants. I don't know that long hiking is your interest but the Urique river area was nice. I really would love to go back. I remember the train ride from Chihuahua, heading to Creel the scenery starts getting mountainous and lots of little towns I wanted to get out and just explore for a few days.

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Post by section8 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:19 pm

Both times I went I took a bus from south Tucson to Los Mochis, then took the train up to Creel and other towns. El Fuerte is a surprisingly nice little town at the western end of the rail portion.
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Post by Bill Barilko » Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:11 pm

section8 wrote:....El Fuerte is a surprisingly nice little town at the western end of the rail portion.

Yup-friendly people and some great food.
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Post by twodogs » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:32 pm

Has anyone taken the ferry from La Paz to Los Mochis? I plan to be in Cabo for Dia de los Muertos and may have enough time to ride El Chepe to Chihuahua.
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Post by section8 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:47 pm

No, but I met some people on one of my CC trips who did just that. It sounded like a great idea to me.
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Post by Bill Barilko » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:01 am

twodogs wrote:Has anyone taken the ferry from La Paz to Los Mochis?

My info is too old to be germane but don't expect luxury-more like sitting up all night in an airline seat.
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Post by twodogs » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:10 am

I will know in a few weeks, just booked passage from Pichilingue to Topolobampo for early November.
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Post by dragon » Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:35 am

cool. i don't think we're going to do it this time. but one day...
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Post by twodogs » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:57 pm

The ferry from La Paz was on time, had comfortable airline seating, a nice lounge and decent deck access. I upgraded to a cabin so I could take a shower after visiting Tecolate that morning but it would have been fine without it. There is no escaping the movies in all the public areas unless you stay on deck so bring earplugs if the sound might bother you.

I boarded Chepe in Los Mochis. The train is showing its age but was on time and relatively comfortable for track conditions. They still let you hang out the windows between coaches and take pictures. The majority of passengers were nationals but a small tour group got on in El Fuerte and off in Posada Barrancas so I was able to listen to their guides spiel. We made the usual 15 minute stop in Divisadero, there are a lot more vendors now. I went straight thru to Chihuahua but you need a week or more to see everything.

There is talk of either replacing the train or abandoning passenger service in five years so anyone planning a trip should go sooner than later. Local service has already been cut back to every other day.
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Post by Bill Barilko » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:44 am

twodogs wrote:I boarded Chepe in Los Mochis. The train is showing its age but was on time and relatively comfortable for track conditions. They still let you hang out the windows between coaches and take pictures....

Good to hear-the train consisted of old CP Rail stock when I did it long ago and I had the feeling my Dad had worked aboard some of those cars-I spent almost the whole trip up hanging out between cars it was a blast.
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Post by twodogs » Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:53 am

Same cars, noticed one chipped spot in the paint and it looks like there are six or seven layers.
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Post by dragon » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:54 pm

thanks, twodogs. for various reasons we've decided to go to guanajuato this time, but next time...
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Post by Lost Soul » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:04 am

Thanks, 2-D.

The US Army and the Mexican Army shot at each other all day in the 1880s on the north side of the canyon.

Geronimo and his Apaches, who they were both chasing, sat still, watched the show, and laughed about it until the end of their days.
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Post by twodogs » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:54 am

dragon wrote:thanks, twodogs. for various reasons we've decided to go to guanajuato this time, but next time...


Enjoy, it gets pretty cold at night this time of year.
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Post by twodogs » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:56 am

Lost Soul wrote:Thanks, 2-D.

The US Army and the Mexican Army shot at each other all day in the 1880s on the north side of the canyon.

Geronimo and his Apaches, who they were both chasing, sat still, watched the show, and laughed about it until the end of their days.


Interesting, I had a meeting in Chihuahua so I hurried thru, next time I will spend at least a week.
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