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Re: Autumn Rugby Internationals

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:18 pm

Geoffers wrote:I never thought a rugby thread would get so many posts here.


To be fair, half of them were mine.

Next up, Aussies at home to complete a 13-0 for the year. Banana skin?

And as I have said, so many times, 10 out of the 30 who travelled to Australia weren't available, and the vast majority of the first choice team are aged between 21-27.

But, when were some plaudits ever expected from the former colonies.

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Re: Autumn Rugby Internationals

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:22 pm

I will agree I don't know why England didn't play NZ.

Australia disproved the theory that a SH side never plays all the home nations in one month (plus France).

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Post by mad hatter » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:32 pm

my understanding which could be wrong is there is bad blood between nzrfu and england rugby about gate take at twickers going back a long time when the nzrfu coffers were bare and the old erfu screwed the nrfu on revenue share.
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Re: Autumn Rugby Internationals

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:39 pm

I wouldn't be surprised.

The amount FIJI got here was an embarrassment.

According to the Mail Sport: £70k lump sum to Fiji and £400 per player.

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Post by mad hatter » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:44 pm

thats appalling. its god to see the nthn hem sides are back up there. ill watch the weekend highlights tonite and the poms v argies and the abs v frogs later in week. didnt see any of it over the weekend
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Post by QPR_Paul » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:35 am

The home union always gets the gate revenue. It's not unusual. For once the RFU told the NZRU that they wouldn't get any more than anybody else, so they didn't come.

SD - there have been loads of years when England have played all 3 SH teams in the Autumn.

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Post by mad hatter » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:47 am

yes we know what it is thats not what helps grow the game
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Re: Autumn Rugby Internationals

Post by LuZbelito » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:58 pm

Embarrassing performance from Arg. Not a single redeeming aspect. Not one. Hernandez, as much as i love him for what he's done, has to leave. It's as if his mind is not aware this ain't 2007 anymore.

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Re: Autumn Rugby Internationals

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:28 pm

NZ SA AUS
**** 2016 2016
**** ***** 2015
2014 2014 2014
2013 ***** 2013
2012 2012 2012
***** ***** *****
2010 2010 2010
2009 ***** 2009
2008 2008 2008
***** ***** *****
2006 2006 *****
2005 ***** 2005

That's fair enough Paul, 4 times in 12 years.

My point was more that just because England doesn't play New Zealand doesn't mean they are avoiding them.

But, it is the first time they haven't played one of the top three SH sides in autumn for 2 years, going back to Australia in 2006/07.

I think Hatter might be right about there being an issue between about distribution of wealth - did you see what Fiji was given?

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Post by mad hatter » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:03 pm

sickening wsnt it
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Post by QPR_Paul » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:19 pm

Do the Sanzaar unions ever play the island nations, except in world cups ?

If not - why not ?

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Post by Geoffers » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:44 am

Yes, but not often enough. Last year the Al Blacks went to Apia to play Samoa.
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Post by mad hatter » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:46 am

QPR_Paul wrote:Do the Sanzaar unions ever play the island nations, except in world cups ?

If not - why not ?

youre not at parliamentary question time nigel
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Post by QPR_Paul » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:58 am

And so the teams are in for the biggest game of the Autumn - England vs Crims at HQ. Only the yellow and green stands between England and a perfect 100% record in 2016.

The ref is Peyper, who had a bit of a nightmare for the Ireland vs ABs match. He'll keep the Crims in it one way or another, so I'll go England by 5.

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Post by mad hatter » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:18 pm

i hope for australian rugbys sake that the crim win
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Post by Iolar » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:15 pm

The biggest game this autumn was already played. Everyone else is going on holiday and/or preparing for Christmas. It isn't even autumn anymore. Nobody cares.

Australia by 7.
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Re: Autumn Rugby Internationals

Post by Geoffers » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:51 am

Yes, this is an extra game played for the possibility of a grand slam, and for more money. The Wallabies look to be very tired, I'd like them to win but don't see it happening.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:31 am

Where will they garner that extra incentive from.

Its 70-30 England

And with recent results, maybe the result!

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Re: Autumn Rugby Internationals

Post by mad hatter » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:43 am

Go Australia! Cheikas a cock but go Australia!
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Post by andybox » Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:27 am

A draw. Hard to pick, everybody loves to beat England. Good to see the Kiwis behind their cousins across the ditch. When will we see a SANZAR + Argy team v 6 Nations? That would be something. At least 3 players from 6 Nations + 2, 5 each from SANZAR.
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Re: Autumn Rugby Internationals

Post by mad hatter » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:09 am

andybox wrote:A draw. Hard to pick, everybody loves to beat England. Good to see the Kiwis behind their cousins across the ditch. When will we see a SANZAR + Argy team v 6 Nations? That would be something. At least 3 players from 6 Nations + 2, 5 each from SANZAR.

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Re: Autumn Rugby Internationals

Post by harry_flashman » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:36 am

With half of England's first team out then this is the best chance for the Aussies to turn their season around. Trouble is I don't think they have the belief to get a result. I expect England to dominate up front and get a result.
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Post by mad hatter » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:29 pm

we'll see harry. it would be a good result for AU if they win
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Re: Autumn Rugby Internationals

Post by harry_flashman » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:20 pm

So the flow of another game ruined by a unnecessary sin binning. Through in all those England substitutions and it all starts to look like a training session. Australia certainly on the wrong end of some questionable calls.
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Post by QPR_Paul » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:57 pm

Yes harsh sin binning but I don't think the ref got much else wrong. Both teams played it very "clean", and it would have been better if there had been 30 players on the field at the end. Refreshing to see that from the teams ranked #2 and #3 in the world.

Not bad from England - only turn up for 40 minutes and still defeat the Wallabies by 16 points - and still leave some points out on the field.

And England go to P14 W14 , and 100% record for 2016. And more to come.

PS I'm sure it's quite convivial for Bandra in the Sun Inn post-match...

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:35 pm

Assuming both win their first four games, the next big test should be a Grand Slam decider in Dublin the day after St Patricks Day!

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Post by andybox » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:35 pm

Great result for England, a shame about the referee and some questionable calls. England on track for a golden era, Australia are in the doldrums.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:38 pm

You could have had England dead and buried in the first quarter, bar two upheld tries and a few missed kicks.

You will miss Pocock when he goes on his sabatical.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:39 pm

But, this England team seems able to cope with adversity.

And stil to come back: Itoje, Haskell, Billy Vunipola and Anthony Watson.

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Post by Geoffers » Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:20 am

Strange yellow card in the 72nd minute, it will be touch rugby soon, no tackles allowed.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:29 am

In slow play it looks a yellow card.

Will Greenwood was dismayed by it.

As in your point about touch rugby.

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Post by harry_flashman » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:09 am

The IRB is becoming like the European Union. Every time that they meet it seems that they cannot resist the opportunity to tinker and pass down some silly edict. Hopefully they will realise the error of their ways on this one and accept that a penalty would have been sufficient punishment. There is certainly a lot of inconsistency with some of the decisions. I still reckon Australia are a decent side and the coach is doing a good job. Yesterday they only turned up for the first half. End of a long season?
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Post by QPR_Paul » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:55 am

I just watched the highlights, and on 58 minutes Aus concede a penalty for
tackling a player without the ball... the ref warns Stephen Moore "no more of these". Farrell kicked the penalty to take the score to 30-16. In that context the yellow card is perfectly justified.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:55 am

Sky are doing a poll.

I went with Ben Youngs as England player of the autumn.

Chris Robshaw is an excellent 6. Who knew?

Good signs for the Lions. But, as most 'edgy' effete rugby fans here know, no real rugby fans care about that sort of thing.

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:56 am

QPR_Paul wrote:I just watched the highlights, and on 58 minutes Aus concede a penalty for
tackling a player without the ball... the ref warns Stephen Moore "no more of these". Farrell kicked the penalty to take the score to 30-16. In that context the yellow card is perfectly justified.


Fair enough.

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Re: Autumn Rugby Internationals

Post by Iolar » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:59 pm

Funny to read over this.
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