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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:46 pm

Ireland vs Australia should be great.
I hope Sexton is fit.

As for the others. I will have to get my 8 ball out again.

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Post by mad hatter » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:51 pm

argies to roll england with a late try.
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Post by Iolar » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:53 pm

Sexton is not fit. Carbery should be chosen instead. Jackson is not good enough.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:34 pm

I didn't realise how old Sexton is. Soon.time to ship him out in any case.

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Post by grecian » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:11 pm

Top NIFTY! from Jimmy Floyd's Luuurve Child there!

Sexton's fucked and Paddy Jackson looks like a very small Leprechaun...

Italy vs Tonga - Italy by 15
England vs Argentina - England by 20
Scotland vs Georgia - Scotland by 30
Romania vs Uruguay - Who??
Ireland vs Australia - Should be a cracker but i'll go Crims by 7
Wales vs South Africa - Can the Boks get any worse?? I'll go Boks by 10
France vs New Zealand - AB's by 25

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Post by LuZbelito » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:15 pm

Geoffers wrote:If Barrett didn't ground the ball (he did), it would have been a penalty try for the tackle around the head anyway.
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I've lurked through every forum, nzer, irish, international, the lot, and i've yet to see a single image or video where you can see the ball touching the field. Still looking.

And yes, i agree about the penalty try, the problem with that argument is that that was not what the ref asked to the TMO.

About our last 2 games, we were Pathetic, capital P.
I actually went to Wales to see the game. What a waste of time.

I would fire our entire management team on the spot. All of them.

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Post by Wellpisser » Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:39 pm

Going to Wales for any reason is a waste of time.

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Post by Geoffers » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:51 pm

Luz, look here at 1:09.
[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ALS90VdFUO4[/youtube]
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:54 pm

Clearly a try.

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Post by LuZbelito » Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:24 am

Geoffers wrote:Luz, look here at 1:09.
[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ALS90VdFUO4[/youtube]
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ALS90VdFUO4


Sorry, no. There is not a single frame that shoes it. I could buy it if Sexton's arm wasn't under the ball, but that's the deal breaker.
These are the two camera angles of the moment

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In neither pic you can see the ball touching the ground. It is very close, but the angles and the arms involved do not allow you to see a grounding.

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Post by mad hatter » Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:53 am

zzzzz. the ref called it. history.
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Post by Iolar » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:19 am

The try was awarded. Ireland were not good enough on the day.
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Post by LuZbelito » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:45 am

mad hatter wrote:zzzzz. the ref called it. history.

Changing the subject, got it.

One thing is what the ref awarded and another one is whether or not the TMO could see the grounding. The second is what i am arguing about.
And sure, you did not deserve to win, but again, that is a different conversation.

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Post by Wellpisser » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:39 pm

LuZbelito wrote:
mad hatter wrote:zzzzz. the ref called it. history.

Changing the subject, got it.

One thing is what the ref awarded and another one is whether or not the TMO could see the grounding. The second is what i am arguing about.
And sure, you did not deserve to win, but again, that is a different conversation.


You makeva good general point. What is the point of a TMO if they can't get it right with a replay?

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Post by mad hatter » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:42 pm

they got it right.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:09 am

Geoffers wrote:Luz, look here at 1:09.
[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ALS90VdFUO4[/youtube]
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ALS90VdFUO4

hello!

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:11 am

look

you't can't see the grounding, as jeff mentioned

it was grounded.

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Post by Wellpisser » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:50 am

Italy vs Tonga
England vs Argentina
Scotland vs Georgia
Romania vs Uruguay
Ireland vs Australia
Wales vs South Africa
France vs New Zealand

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:54 am

Wellpisser wrote:Italy vs Tonga 26-22
England vs Argentina 34-12
Scotland vs Georgia 26-08
Romania vs Uruguay 22-24
Ireland vs Australia 18 - 24
Wales vs South Africa 28 - 16
France vs New Zealand
12 -44

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:54 am

Wellpisser[/quote][quote="Wellpisser wrote:Italy vs Tonga 26-22
England vs Argentina 34-12
Scotland vs Georgia 26-08
Romania vs Uruguay 22-24
Ireland vs Australia 18 - 24
Wales vs South Africa 28 - 16
France vs New Zealand
12 -44

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Post by mad hatter » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:29 am

Wellpisser wrote:Italy vs Tonga
England vs Argentina
Scotland vs Georgia
Romania vs Uruguay
Ireland vs Australia
Wales vs South Africa
France vs New Zealand

except argies with a late try to win
Ireland over Aussies
France to get royally reamed and earn 2 red cards for scrotum tearing and eye gouging
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:31 am

How much you want to bet about the Argentina win? £250?

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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:35 am

I will give you odds

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Post by mad hatter » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:41 am

a gentleman's wager SD.
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No one posts for a week.

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Stephen_Dedalus wrote:No one posts for a week.

can you clarify your words they dont make sense
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:13 am

mad hatter wrote:
Stephen_Dedalus wrote:No one posts for a week.

can you clarify your words they dont make sense


yeah, its in code

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Post by mad hatter » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:14 am

thankyou. i like pussy.
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Post by Geoffers » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:34 am

So the loser doesn't post here for a week? Sounds a reasonable wager.
I'll put up the same for anyone willing to back the French against the All Blacks.

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Post by Wellpisser » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:02 am

I'm off home to London on Sunday so I'll take that one Geoffers. But for a bit of pure league genius from Kuridrani last week the French could have had the Wallabies and were the better team in the 2nd half. If the All Roids don't put them away in the 1st quater they may may not have the 4th quarter advantage this time.

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Post by mad hatter » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:05 am

yeah. lets see.
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Post by Geoffers » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:15 am

Ok wellpisser, we have a bet? If the French win I don't post here for a week, if the All Blacks win you don't post here for a week. No using of a different handle shouldn't have to be said, but is that agreed also?

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Post by mad hatter » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:25 am

ha ha. And Stephen Ill spend a week posting pro English commentary and will agree with you on all topics (or you will do the same) on an Argies v England game
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Post by LuZbelito » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:18 am

Stephen_Dedalus wrote:look

you't can't see the grounding, as jeff mentioned

it was grounded.

Keep telling yourself that.
I posted both camera angles and neither shows the ball touching the ground.
I asked for evidence and you've provided me with none.

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Post by Wellpisser » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:33 pm

Geoffers wrote:Ok wellpisser, we have a bet? If the French win I don't post here for a week, if the All Blacks win you don't post here for a week. No using of a different handle shouldn't have to be said, but is that agreed also?


Happy to-I'm off home until end of Jan so won't be posting much if any until then.

Les Bleus are inspired by the ABs occasionally and that occasion is overdue.

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Post by Geoffers » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:49 pm

Yes, the French go extra hard against the All Blacks, sometimes, lets hope this is one of those times.

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Post by mad hatter » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:40 pm

the French will go hard, on the gouging and get carded
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Post by QPR_Paul » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:19 pm

Extraordinary performance by England - against a reinvigorated Argie side... 75 mins with 14 men, bar a 10 minute period down to 13.

Utter brilliance from the England forwards.

A real statement going into next week , to attempt to go through 2016 unbeaten.

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Post by harry_flashman » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:09 pm

Too much TMO and touch judge interference for my liking. I appreciate that the authorities want to protect the players but at the same time we should respect the fact that its a contact sport. If the TMO is not watching and reviewing the match in real time they he should be. It might cut down the delays. Eddie Jones has done a great job and I think he will have them fired up for Australia. Shame about all the injuries
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Post by harry_flashman » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:12 pm

I backed Tonga against Italy and I am picking Ireland over Australia. Can't see the French getting a result
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Wales to loose to the Dutchmen
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Post by Wellpisser » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:35 pm

Brilliant by England, really good by Ireland, good by wales.

I have a ticket for next weeks game. Hoops if you're around we'll be kicking off at the Sun Inn probably 11.30ish

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Post by Wellpisser » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:40 pm

Should Wayne Barnes be allowed to referee an AB game? He certainly should not be allowed to referee an England one. Why was this cunt given a second chance when he is so clearly biased?

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Post by Wellpisser » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:52 pm

Well done the ABs but the gap is closing and it is because the ABs are getting worse.

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Post by Geoffers » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:57 pm

Very stop-start, but that says more about the stream I had than the match. Yes, the ABs are getting worse.

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Post by Iolar » Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:41 pm

Ireland did well considering they finished with a scrumhalf on the wing. They still lack killer instinct. They should have been twenty ahead by half-time.
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Fuck off you filthy bogtrotter.....

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'It's been a tough old month for southern hemisphere teams': All Blacks coach Ian Foster
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TJ Perenara started for the All Blacks ahead of Aaron Smith when they met France in Paris on Sunday morning (NZT).
Inside their bunker at Stade de France, there was no panic, says TJ Perenara.

It's a good thing the All Blacks were chilled, because a number of their supporters who had swooped into Paris for the weekend had watched the first half of the match against France and wondered if the unthinkable was about to happen.

While the All Blacks led 10-6 at halftime, they had only had 38 and 33 per cent of the possession and territory and required a long-range Israel Dagg try, hatched off a cross-kick by Beauden Barrett, to be ahead.


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The NZ halfback said his side's big defensive effort in the first half gave the team a boost of confidence.
The All Blacks were forced to make 58 tackles to France's 29, and the fatigue that comes after such a high workload at the end of a tour resulted in coach Steve Hansen going to his bench early in the second half.

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In the changing sheds at the break, Perenara said everyone was rock steady.

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"If we can make tackles, and put them under pressure and not concede too much, mentally it can of a benefit for us. They scored nine points, but didn't score a try," Perenara said.
"Yes, we need to keep the ball for longer, yes we need to eliminate errors but if we are defending for long periods of the game and conceded just nine points we will take that."


Tries to Charlie Faumuina, Dagg and Barrett, to France's sole effort by Louis Picamoles, ensured the All Blacks left France unscathed.

There was one heart-jumping moment when All Blacks captain Kieran Read ordered an attacking scrum, instead of kicking for goal, when his side was ahead 24-16 with eight minutes left.

A move off the scrum backfired when the ball was lost and France sailed down the field to score another penalty to close the gap to five points.

That the All Blacks survived was testimony to their dogged attitude.

Assistant coach Ian Foster believed the gap between the Irish and French teams, and their southern hemisphere rivals, has started to decrease in the wake of their disappointing efforts at the World Cup. Wales beat South Africa at the weekend, and Ireland rolled Australia.

"We have noticed, particularly, the teams we have played that both France and Ireland are prepared to play with a little bit more width and risk a little bit more," Foster noted.

"They are reaping the rewards for it. It has been a tough old month for southern hemisphere teams up here and for world rugby that is a positive.
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Post by harry_flashman » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:50 am

They still lack killer instinct. They should have been twenty ahead by half-time.


Probably more to do with the fact that Ireland don't have the strength in depth. A first choice Ireland outfit would have probably won that match with something to spare. As it was Australia can count themselves unlucky. I don't think they would have found all those holes without the help of makeshift Irish backline. Still it was a good match for the neutral.
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Post by Geoffers » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:39 pm

Two and a half tons from a 6 straight into the sidescreen behind the bowlers head.
I never thought a rugby thread would get so many posts here. The year is finished for most, one more week for some. A great year for the All Blacks, who have plenty to work on before the Lions tour, and the Northern teams have improved a lot since the World Cup, especially Ireland. Well England did too, but they couldn't have gotten any worse. My prediction for next year, England to fall back to the pack as Eddie Jones methods no longer rouse the Poms, the Lions to do well in NZ, but I'm not sure if they'll do as well as the 71 team did. No idea how the Saffas can improve, unless they ditch 2 of their Super rugby teams. Australia to improve with more experience, but Chieka, Like Jones, is looking like a one season wonder. Coach of the year 2015? Hardly deserved it.
Standout player of the year, Beauden Barrett, well deserved his world player of the year award, the difference between the All Blacks winning instead of losing in both Dublin and Paris.

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