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Post by Argonheart_Po » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:17 pm

Ali Williams' reputation gone. O'Conner's already had.
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Post by grecian » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:20 pm

O'Conner was still a starter for the Aussies, wasn't he even tho' he played in France?...

Talented player - reminds me of Henry Slade but better...

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grecian wrote:O'Conner was still a starter for the Aussies, wasn't he even tho' he played in France?...

Talented player - reminds me of Henry Slade but better...


They gave him the boot a couple of years ago - ripped up his contract.

Union tends to be a bit better about these things than League where here the national team included a man charged with distributing cocaine.
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Post by Geoffers » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:54 am

When tested by the police, O,connor tested positive to coke, Willians negative.

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:54 am

Is Williams still in jail?

He faces the more serious charge doesn't he?
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Post by Geoffers » Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:13 am

Last I heard they were both released after 40 hours, with Williams charged with attempting to buyand O, connor for attempting to use. If found guilty they could both have their work permits cancelled.

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Geoffers wrote:Last I heard they were both released after 40 hours, with Williams charged with attempting to buyand O, connor for attempting to use. If found guilty they could both have their work permits cancelled.


What a pair of morons.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:55 pm

I'm very impressed with the start of the NRL season.

Only a few NRL players in court for attacking members of the public or their girlfriends.

Definitely a reduction from previous years and no drug trafficking cases at all.
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WTF would you know about the working man's game?

Oh wait. You're currently the self appointed all knowing social justice messiah championing the proletariat and their downtrodden lot in life. Which is nice.

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I know their players are just about the most depraved and degenerate group of sportsmen In the western world.

I know that this tiny boutique sport is renowned for the off-field violence, sexual criminality, drug dealing and using and wife beating of its players.

That not a week will go by this season without some personality-disordered neck tattood retard assaulting a member of the public or his girlfriend.

Now tell me - why do you like it?
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Post by Unwashed_Pom » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:53 am

Cricket in summer, rugby league in winter. They were the only choices on offer in my working class background. A social cohesion that gelled a hard working neighbourhood. It was a social connection.

Union was and still largely is the domain of silver spooned private schools. The elite if you will.

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:05 am

Hold your horses - I was wrong.

One NRL player (astonishingly given this is Australia) suspended for drug abuse has been arrested this week for .... trading in endangered animals. Of course he has. A new low even for NRL players.

And today another player and his club "fixer" are in the news for bullying and pressuring a young woman into an abortion she didn't want to have. Classy.

Keep it up NRL. You're the scumiest sport on the face of the earth - and you make the rest of us feel clean.
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Post by Geoffers » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:28 am

No no no, AFL is the scummiest sport in Australia.
I know it's off the subject of Australia, but how many Russian and other Eastern block Olympians have had their medals taken off them for using performance enhancing drugs, since retests in the last year? At least 20, maybe closer to 50. They got the accolades then, the new medalists get none. Now that's scummy.

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Post by Unwashed_Pom » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:24 am

Argonheart_Po wrote: this tiny boutique sport


Ignore it then and immerse yourself in something that you can relate to and interact with...confused dog impersonations.

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Isn't it NRL players - remarkably more than once - who enjoy the 'company' of dogs? That's when they're not drinking their own piss or shitting in hotel corridors of course.
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Post by Unwashed_Pom » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:20 am

Well, yes it is. But given your capacity for blanket coverage generalizations of all things Strayan I'm shocked you haven't claimed that indigenous players especially prefer to fuck dingoes. Nothing unusual for you.

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Unwashed_Pom wrote:Well, yes it is. But given your capacity for blanket coverage generalizations of all things Strayan I'm shocked you haven't claimed that indigenous players especially prefer to fuck dingoes. Nothing unusual for you.


No. Thats the way you think - not me.

I'm sorry your little sport turned into such shit. But why did you guys let the players turn it into such a revolting cesspool?
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Argonheart_Po wrote:I'm sorry your little sport turned into such shit.


Don't be. Your opinion has about as much weight/ gravitas around here as humming bird shit. Who else says so?

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:31 am

And yet.....

Well, it's obvious isn't it?
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Another NRL player tests positive for steroids.

The big and good change for Australian sport is that they actually get tested properly and the tests are authentic. I guess since Cronulla and Essendon they actually have to follow the rules for fear of what might happen.
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Could AFL be anymore of a sleazy, stupid joke? Populated by spivs and trash who think they're high quality people. It's the western equivalent of Russian sports administration.
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The scum topped cesspool of Australian pro sport delivers another greasy turd - regular as clockwork.

This one is a NRL player Tim Simona who regularly bets against his own team and then steals the money from charity auctions meant for children's charities and pockets it himself. All the while high on coke and hanging around with gangsters - of course.

Six or seven of his team take coke every weekend - as if we didn't already know.
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Naturally (this is Australian rugby league) the club have declined to investigate the mass drug use by it's players at it's official functions.
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And....

In another non-surprise the AFL conspired to cover up a report into a ten year culture of drug use combined with other illegal activity at the West Coast Eagles.

The club and AFL collided with players to allow them to use meth, coke and other drugs. One player died, others became addicted.

Naturally - this being Australia the coach is still coaching even though he knew about the meth culture. In fact the club he is at is just recovering from its own drug scandal.

Wait another ten years for the next cover ups to be revealed. These will involve Fremantle, Collingwood and at least one other club.

Well done Aussie sport - proudly the worst sporting culture in the western world.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinio ... 250df7ed6c

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Post by Wellpisser » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:25 pm

Just seen the news about WCE. Hopefully they will be stripped of the 2006 championship. I'd say that it is disgraceful etc but as Argon has shown it is all too predictable.

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Wellpisser wrote:Just seen the news about WCE. Hopefully they will be stripped of the 2006 championship. I'd say that it is disgraceful etc but as Argon has shown it is all too predictable.


They cover up everything. It's cheap, sleazy, amateurish.

Did you know the AFL pays the media for positive coverage? Much of it isn't news at all - it's advertising.

Once they start reporting Buddy Franklin's drug problem and the other clubs riddled with drugs we'll know they're serious. But they're not. Not at all.

Incidentally - when the teams go out for the first matches this season - a significant number will be on methamphetamine.
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In NRL news Matt Lodge - another violent retarded narcissistic jerk in a sport full of them - has been ordered to pay $1.2million in damages to two women and a family he terrorised, threatened to murder and violently attacked in their own home while in New York.

This being Australia - his new team the Brisbane Broncos have decided to "stand by him".
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Astonishingly Australian sport - aside from AFL fans racially abusing Aboriginal players and a test cricketer insulting and demanding sex from women and the teenage daughters of attendees at a dinner - has been relatively scandal free this week.

Well done Australia.
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Post by jedgarandclyde » Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:54 am

They have all must have cheated.............................http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-15/n ... tion=sport
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Basketball?

It's when Australians set the rules - AFL and NRL - that drug cheats and racists and thug trash seem to prosper.
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This week only the single scandal - convicted drug cheat AFL player caught betting on matches then lying about it.

Naturally enough he received the usual Aussie good-bloke discount and got a fine.
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Did anyone in the NRL not buy cocaine this weekend?
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another violent retarded narcissistic jerk in a sport full of them

Argon's right, the sport is full of overpaid, undereducated thugs who think they're above the law. Rugby League players used to have a full time job, train during the week and were paid a fee to represent their clubs on the weekend. It was a true working man's sport. Now they're adorned with neck tattoos, more money than they will ever earn outside sport, and yet they act like fucking grubs. I'm sick of the fucking sport. The management are as bad as the players. Notice how these things hardly ever appear in Soccer or Rugby? Anyone want to take a guess as to why?
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andybox wrote:
another violent retarded narcissistic jerk in a sport full of them

Argon's right, the sport is full of overpaid, undereducated thugs who think they're above the law. Rugby League players used to have a full time job, train during the week and were paid a fee to represent their clubs on the weekend. It was a true working man's sport. Now they're adorned with neck tattoos, more money than they will ever earn outside sport, and yet they act like fucking grubs. I'm sick of the fucking sport. The management are as bad as the players. Notice how these things hardly ever appear in Soccer or Rugby? Anyone want to take a guess as to why?


Thanks. I think it's a good sport full of horrible people. My guess is those sports have international oversight and have to answer to a greater authority whereas NRL and AFL (to a lesser extent) are managed by low quality people who think they're high quality. What do you think?
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Post by andybox » Tue May 09, 2017 12:58 am

I was talking to my fiancé about this last night and again this morning. I don't know if management are afraid of losing good players if they crack down hard on drug/racism/alcohol etc, or if they're just too fucking stupid to realise that the public is getting sick and tired of these thugs being handed a slap on the wrist. Either way, if they continue to go down the same path, then the next generation of neck tattooed Neanderthals will view this behaviour as the norm.
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I think they already see it as the norm.

In the last State of Origin there were people playing convicted of assault, bashing women, sexual assault, one charged with drug dealing, others banned for using illicit drugs, a player who abused and assaulted a junior referee and then publically supported the murderer of a young guy during games and others accused of all sorts of things, another who threw an autograph book in the face of some ten year old kid. There's players going to dinner with gangsters, carrying bags of drugs around, bashing their wives, becoming involved in bikie gangs, betting scandals, cocaine rings, sexual activity with dogs, shitting in hotel common areas and on and on.

As for the management of the clubs - I think they'd rather their neighbours daughters got beaten up by their players than stand a lesser chance of winning the flag.

There are an incomprehensible amount of NRL scandals. More than any other sport I can think of and given it's relatively small size that says something.

All that said - if you're around for an A League match in Melb anytime let me know.
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Post by andybox » Tue May 09, 2017 7:41 am

The international levels of regulation within Rugby and Soccer work. None of us are angels, and this applies to Australian sportsmen and women. But the facts are glaringly obvious; AFL and NRL are riddled with drugs, cheats, mismanagement and downright corruption. I just saw Billy Slater on the news and he said that prior to this week, if asked if the NRL had a drug problem, his answer would have been no. How can such a high profile player say that? Because he would be targeted by both players, managers, and possibly even officials.

The era of Beatson, Lewis etc saw the game of Rugby League produce great role models for kids. Everyone wanted to play in Blue or Maroon. These days the headlines aren't about how good a player is, they're about who's been done for DUI, who's been busted for drugs, who's assaulted their girlfriends and so on. For Rugby League, it seems the Sydney Based players are the worst for these types of indiscretions (if you could call them that). I don't follow AFL, so can't comment beyond what I see in the news.
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You're correct - both sports are full of drugs, sleazy management and low-grade people.

I have a few connections in AFL - I can give you a couple of examples that the press are aware of but - not wanting to kill the golden goose - won't print or broadcast:

Buddy Franklin's mental health problem - that they tried to get the nation feeling sorry for him - was because he spent hundreds of thousands on cocaine.

Dustin Martin's threats to stab a woman in the eye in a restaurant was covered up. The club paid her off.

Several clubs - including GWS, Fremantle and Collingwood have big coke and meth cultures. Many, if not most suburban and country clubs have a meth culture.

Eventually it will all come out I suppose.
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Post by andybox » Wed May 10, 2017 7:45 am

Even if it does all come out (and i'm not sure exactly what "all"consists of), the television contracts/former players in management/club members will do their usual to downplay it. 2 years ago I thought you were just another whinging pom with a chip on his shoulder. You were/are right.
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Thanks. And sure - Melbourne is a jockocracy. It's run by the jocks for the jocks.

That said the I've nothing but praise for the Wallabies and the Socceroos. Both have done tremendously well (the Wallabies are the true heroes of Aus sport) in the face of media antagonism (soccer) and deliberate ignorance (Victoria and the Wallabies).
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Post by andybox » Wed May 10, 2017 10:27 pm

The Rugby Super 14 will head in a positive direction for Australia, once the teams are cut back from 5 to 4. We just don't have the player base to support 5 teams. In my opinion, Australia have been punching way above their weight in international rugby, but if we are to consistently match England, SA and the All Blacks, then we need to combine our top players into more manageable teams. By cutting back to 4 teams, you will see the best of what we have playing week in week out, instead of the best being supported by lesser skilled players. The hunger to play in top grade national rugby should only increase. Funny how racism is never directed towards Rugby and Soccer players in Australia. The fans wouldn't put up with it.
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I hope Rugby recovers.

I think NRL and AFL are - sooner or later - doomed, if they lose 5% of kids a year to soccer then after twenty years they're dead - and dead for ever. Good riddance to bad rubbish too.

And yes - when guys from Mali, Algeria, Nigeria Ivory Coast et al are heroes of your sport it's harder to be a racist prick about it.
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Argonheart_Po wrote:I hope Rugby recovers.

I think NRL and AFL are - sooner or later - doomed, if they lose 5% of kids a year to soccer then after twenty years they're dead - and dead for ever. Good riddance to bad rubbish too.

And yes - when guys from Mali, Algeria, Nigeria Ivory Coast et al are heroes of your sport it's harder to be a racist prick about it.

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Argonheart_Po wrote:I think NRL and AFL are - sooner or later - doomed, if they lose 5% of kids a year to soccer then after twenty years they're dead - and dead for ever. Good riddance to bad rubbish too.


Stats not your strong point. Losing 5% of kids a year means that in 20 (or 100) years they'll have 5% fewer kids.
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Flobster! wrote:
Argonheart_Po wrote:I think NRL and AFL are - sooner or later - doomed, if they lose 5% of kids a year to soccer then after twenty years they're dead - and dead for ever. Good riddance to bad rubbish too.


Stats not your strong point. Losing 5% of kids a year means that in 20 (or 100) years they'll have 5% fewer kids.


You're an idiot.
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Re: Drug Cheats in Australian Sport

Post by Argonheart_Po » Sun May 14, 2017 9:14 am

This week has seen a pissing contest between the NRL and AFL over which set of players are the bigger coke or meth-heads.

Staying classy.
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Post by andybox » Mon May 15, 2017 6:52 am

Bogan class + 6 figure sums and a team of managers who coddle them. What could possibly go wrong.
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Post by rosstralia » Mon May 15, 2017 12:37 pm

Argonheart_Po wrote:You're correct - both sports are full of drugs, sleazy management and low-grade people.

I have a few connections in AFL - I can give you a couple of examples that the press are aware of but - not wanting to kill the golden goose - won't print or broadcast:

Buddy Franklin's mental health problem - that they tried to get the nation feeling sorry for him - was because he spent hundreds of thousands on cocaine.

Dustin Martin's threats to stab a woman in the eye in a restaurant was covered up. The club paid her off.

Several clubs - including GWS, Fremantle and Collingwood have big coke and meth cultures. Many, if not most suburban and country clubs have a meth culture.

Eventually it will all come out I suppose.


I can understand that the media with broadcasting rights would keep stories quiet just as the media dont normally do negative stories on business that have large advertising deals with.

How does this blanket ban work exactly. Does the AFL do the ring around to tell all the media not to report on a story? Wouldnt some media have sports in direct competition with the AFL. Why wouldnt it be in their interest to try and kill the golden goose of their competitors. Look at what happened with Brett Stewart. Some media were clearly batting on his side while others did the exacty opposite. It appeared that some were even making up stuff to make him look guilty. What about the ABC or SBS? Why would they keep quiet on Buddy taking drugs.

As for Dustin Martin story it was reported in the press. I'm sure there was some sort of exchange between the two but police reviewed the CCTV and spoke to independent witnesses and found Martin hadnt broken any laws. The threat to stab the woman with a chopstick didnt happen. Even Caroline Wilson, who clearly doesnt like the bloke, said the story was bollocks after initially bagging him in the press.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue May 16, 2017 5:09 am

What happens in Melbourne is a few people make calls to others - all connected to AFL - and hush up any story. Further no one seriously investigates the scandals nor do they question AFL denials or cover ups.

You'll remember - to Australia's lasting embarrassment - that it took foreign judges to travel to Australia, review the Essendon evidence and ban everyone. The AFL commission let them all off and when they were let off, in the face of obvious and overwhelming evidence the press didn't bat an eyelid.

Why? Well News Corp especially but also Fairfax have hundreds of millions invested in footy. Don't kill the golden goose. The AFL even pays (another little known deal) the Herald Sun for positive coverage. There's also another more human reason - the journalists like AFL and like being AFL journalists - and they don't want to rock the boat.

Richmond - rather a Richmond backer - paid that woman tens of thousands - and you'll recall that AFL is such a sacred cow that the police ask the AFL for permission to interview players involved in criminal activity. Melbourne is a city where AFL clubs can with impunity harass and intimidate the victims of their rapist players for years, players can fire guns in public, kill young women and refuse to answer questions about it and as a good player you can sexually assault a stranger then beat up your girlfriend after getting busted trying to take cocaine into a prison - and they'll still give you a gig on TV.

As for Buddy - I think that's common knowledge. Certainly I heard it from a senior policeman. Why doesn't the ABC report it? I don't know.
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Post by andybox » Tue May 16, 2017 8:00 am

I'm pretty well removed from the AFL media here in NSW. Po, some of the things you are saying seem pretty incredulous, but i'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt as a resident Victorian.
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