Manch megathread - protest

[Stephen_Dedalus]

You just need one more then.

[eric84]

Please do me the honours.

[eric84]

It appears the foe making function isn't working again. Mutha likes the attention his foe list generates but can't seem to keep it functional.

[muthafunky]

Eric is missing the point. Deliberately, I imagine.

Well, there’s a reason we call him Honest Eric.

[eric84]

Eric is missing the point. Deliberately, I imagine.

Well, there’s a reason we call him Honest Eric.

Please fix the foe function.

[Scrubb]

Back during the periods of time when Stephen_Daedalus was making a half a dozen or more drunken obnoxious posts several nights/week, had the mods thought of the idea of consolidating them like they do with Manch's, I'd have been all in favour.

If he goes back to doing that, I'll suggest it.

But he hasn't been doing that for a long time.

[matt_melb]

Well I wouldn’t.

I’m not going to get drawn in again to naming posters who I find more irritating. Suffice it to say that there are some who I do find much more irritating - and whose interjections into other people’s threads I find more irritating than OPs that can easily be scrolled past.

But I’m not asking for everyone i find annoying to be banned or to have their usage of th board restricted. Nor do I think that my views on what is irritating must align with everyone else’s.

[leela]

So the people who irritate you spam the whole board, Matt? Even with the amalgamation thread, last night there were a further nine threads that were Manch's. I'm going to guess that without the amalgamation thread, half the threads would be his.
ETA that at this point, six out of the first twelve threads on the board are his. And I think it's 12 on the first page (plus the amalgamation)

Personally I'd like to be able to foe whole threads, or have Manch given his own branch, so that the those who want to engage can, and the rest of us can get back to the board operating normally. I suspect that Manch would wow like having his own domain.

It bothers me that we are losing interesting and valued posters while this is going on. Is Manch's right to spam worth that?

[mad hatter]

oh my, just scroll on by, its not that difficult.

[shilgia]

Suffice it to say that there are some who I do find much more irritating - and whose interjections into other people’s threads I find more irritating than OPs that can easily be scrolled past.

OK. But there is a solution to your problem: the foe function. What that does is hide those interjections into other people's threads. You can choose to use the function or not. But for people whose irritation is caused by frequent threads rather than frequent interjections, there is no solution built into this platform. So the mods help by consolidating the threads.

Why can't you let this go? Why does this seem to be an insult of monumental proportions to you?

[matt_melb]

Why should I let it go? As you can see from the Euro Mod thread and various others, there are a number of other people who think that those who are bothered should just scroll on past. I’m far from the only one.

You seem to be trying to imply that I am the only one who wants Manch’s threads left alone like everyone else’s. I’m not.

There are also, obviously, a number of people who want to respond to Manch’s threads. If there weren’t, they would quickly sink off the first page.

What I am letting go is the comparatively trivial things that bother me. The people who are wound up by too many Manch threads should do the same.

[AntiFelix]

Post.

[cuchulainn]

We need serious moderation. MODS! BRING BACK ERIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!

[mad hatter]

We need serious moderation. MODS! BRING BACK ERIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!

tbh he couldnt be worse than recent attempts at moderation

Sent from my batphone

[matt_melb]

BTW who is 'wayne wankstain'?

[Stephen_Dedalus]

Back during the periods of time when Stephen_Daedalus was making a half a dozen or more drunken obnoxious posts several nights/week, had the mods thought of the idea of consolidating them like they do with Manch's, I'd have been all in favour.

If he goes back to doing that, I'll suggest it.

But he hasn't been doing that for a long time.

Oh do fuck off carrot top.

You're one of those "earnest" dullsville posters I definitely have no problem with scrolling past

TL/DR

[Scrubb]

Sorry, just answering one of Matt's points.

And yeah, I"ve been pretty dull lately, it's true.

[Stephen_Dedalus]

I was at least hoping for a mini-fight.

[muthafunky]

Seems like a good time to merge this thread into the megathread?

[eric84]

Sure why not? It's not like you're going to address any concerns raised here.

[muthafunky]

I think a merge would address them quite nicely

[Stephen_Dedalus]

Eric, this maybe a non official interview.

Think wisely.

And turn down the confrontational dial one notch

[Moethebartender]

Perhaps you could create a branch for eReich and Mutt in Melb to whinge about the mods. Manch could moderate. The Shit Filled Palliative Bed Branch. Could be a winner.

[VinnyD]

Seems like a good time to merge this thread into the megathread?

I suggested that back on the first page.

[muthafunky]

Sorry, I didn't read the thread.

[matt_melb]

You haven’t missed much.

The OP is excellent, as are the posts agreeing with it. Most of the rest is drivel.

I’ve been surprised to learn how many people read Sound Off. I naively thought it was a sensible place to state my position about a matter of board administration, so the mods would know there was more than one view, without taking up too much bandwidth.

[muthafunky]

Lol

[Moethebartender]

I naively thought it was a sensible place to state my position about a matter of board administration, so the mods would know there was more than one view, without taking up too much bandwidth.

Yeah, but you're kind of a fucking idiotic rube. Have you come around to admitting that those two Russian assassins weren't just tooling around Salisbury as ordinary tourists yet?

[AntiFelix]

matt, as Manch's friend, what are you doing about his public self-destruction?

[Moethebartender]

He's having a larf at the stupid Merkin doing the killself.

[matt_melb]

I naively thought it was a sensible place to state my position about a matter of board administration, so the mods would know there was more than one view, without taking up too much bandwidth.

Yeah, but you're kind of a fucking idiotic rube. Have you come around to admitting that those two Russian assassins weren't just tooling around Salisbury as ordinary tourists yet?

I’m repeating myself; but my position is the same as before. I don’t have a definitive view; often in my job, it’s my responsibility to weigh things up and come to one; I’m enjoying the luxury of not having to do that; and I’m enjoying entertaining several ‘what ifs’, some of which differ from both the Russian and British official positions.

The one point I have consistently been arguing is that the story, whether it’s real or confected, is plausible; and that the Brits who are saying things like ‘no foreigner would think Salisbury worth visiting’ and ‘no-one would make a day trip from London as far as Salisbury’ have their heads up their ‘asses’ (to put it in language you might understand).

[matt_melb]

matt, as Manch's friend, what are you doing about his public self-destruction?

As I’ve said before, Felix, it distresses me greatly but I am out of my depth in trying to solve it.

I wish he would get medical help.

I can’t see any argument, though, that restricting his access here would help, and I don’t think anyone is seriously contending that. There might have been a time when stepping away from the computer resulted in Manch drinking less; I don’t believe that is so now.

[Moethebartender]

The one point I have consistently been arguing is that the story, whether it’s real or confected, is plausible; and that the Brits who are saying things like ‘no foreigner would think Salisbury worth visiting’ and ‘no-one would make a day trip from London as far as Salisbury’ have their heads up their ‘asses’ (to put it in language you might understand).

Yep, you're a naive idiot. This is the stuff that a partnership in a Straylian law firm is made of? Holy shit.

[AntiFelix]

matt, as Manch's friend, what are you doing about his public self-destruction?

As I’ve said before, Felix, it distresses me greatly but I am out of my depth in trying to solve it.

I wish he would get medical help.

I can’t see any argument, though, that restricting his access here would help, and I don’t think anyone is seriously contending that. There might have been a time when stepping away from the computer resulted in Manch drinking less; I don’t believe that is so now.

Maybe you should say that publicly. He's being very public about his self-inflicted demise. Many of us have urged this for him - hearing it from a friend on his public platform might ring a bell for him. It would certainly be more useful than running interference for his had behavior. Dude's going to he dead, sooner rather than later, if he doesn't change course.

[eric84]

You haven’t missed much.

The OP is excellent, as are the posts agreeing with it. Most of the rest is drivel.

I’ve been surprised to learn how many people read Sound Off. I naively thought it was a sensible place to state my position about a matter of board administration, so the mods would know there was more than one view, without taking up too much bandwidth.

Mutha has long dismissed the views of posters who don't fawn all over him, telling him how great he is. I thought you should know.

[ben_hanscombe]

matt, as Manch's friend, what are you doing about his public self-destruction?

As I’ve said before, Felix, it distresses me greatly but I am out of my depth in trying to solve it.

I wish he would get medical help.

I can’t see any argument, though, that restricting his access here would help, and I don’t think anyone is seriously contending that. There might have been a time when stepping away from the computer resulted in Manch drinking less; I don’t believe that is so now.

I hereby seriously contend that restricting his access here would help.

[shilgia]

And I seriously contend that there is no restriction of access here. Manch can still do whatever he wants. Post in other people's threads, post in his own threads. The only change is that when he floods the board with multiple new threads in short succession, those get swept into a megathread and the discussion can continue there. That's not a restriction of access; it's just housekeeping.

(For the record, I still have no strong opinion on whether Manch's posts should or shouldn't be consolidated. I really don't care either way. I just don't see how sweeping Manch's numerous threads into one thread is some kind of abuse of his human rights.)

[eric84]

It's treating him differently than any other poster who is permitted to post here. Which is pretty extraordinary that it took, what, 12 years before this occurred. I think it's pretty arrogant to presume that we know one way or the other whether posting here hurts, harms or does nothing either way for him.

[ManchVegas]

Et tu Caesar? (Meant towards Ben)

I'm not on here any more or less than than the rest of you lately.

I do no harm and don' attack unles I'm attacked and like I said, if the mods want to just tell me how many threads and posts per day they think is acceptable I'll follow their guidelines.

[ben_hanscombe]

I don't think this place is good for you. I know my way around my own self-destructive behaviour, and I see a lot of it in the way you post here. So yeah, et me, if you like.

[ManchVegas]

I didn't realize you had a drinks issue.

Where are you located now?

[ben_hanscombe]

About twenty yards from the Pacific coast of Japan.

[ManchVegas]

OK. Crap. I was hoping you might still be UK based. I really would like to meet you some day.

I know many claim that people with booze issues should not meet but I think there is some value to it. You may have some bit of wisdom that I could use.

Feel free to speak your mind to me. I do respect what you say.

Just from previous postings I can tell you want to help and I'm open to that.

[AntiFelix]

I know many claim that people with booze issues should not meet but I think there is some value to it. You may have some bit of wisdom that I could use.

Feel free to speak your mind to me. I do respect what you say.

Just from previous postings I can tell you want to help and I'm open to that.

You've been completely unreceptive to wisdom from people with booze issues on the Stew.

[ManchVegas]

No. Not really.

[AntiFelix]

Absolutely you have been. You aren't interested in anything that doesn't validate you nonadherence to the Sinclair Method.

[Chip_Oatley]

You can't keep drinking at all, manch. I think you know that.

[ManchVegas]

That MIGHT have to become my reality Chip.

[matt_melb]

But surely you don’t want to keep drinking, Manch. It must by now have lost all pleasure it ever had.

Your mother and your sister want you to get proper medical help. You should.

[ManchVegas]

Thanks Matt. Yes. To a certain degree the pleasure from booze is gone. It causes me only grief right now.

I would fucking love to banish it.

BUT it's not that easy.

Not to put myself down or diminish myself, but people like you and Cummy for example, you don't have first hand addiction experience. Therefore you will never know what I'm going through.

I do appreciate your concern though and encourage the dialogue. It's like anything else in life. Just knowing there's someone else out there that gives a shit about me is amazing. AND I'm also here for you too. Not that I have much to give right now but you never know. Maybe I can give you that tidbit of information at some point that could be helpful to you or a family member.