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Please ban Manch

Post by lolasf » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:41 am

It's awful at this point. Truly not good for anyone involved. Please make it stop, this is so unhealthy for so many people.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by The Mallard Missie » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:58 am

I think it's nasty to "publicly" call for posters to be banned. You can always PM the mods.

There have been plenty of vile, nasty cunts who SHOULD have been banned in the past and weren't - The Devil, to name but one (not that he has posted for some time, thank god). And plenty of good ones - such as Bashtard, of course - who WERE banned for no good reason.

To make this kind of post is nothing more than hurtful.

I don't know who you are, but you are clearly a ghastly individual.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Lincoln » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:37 am

I'm struggling to understand all these posts calling for Manch to be banned/suspended...as if somehow that's going to sort the dude out or help him??

I log on to this forum every day and post pretty much every day....and yet I have no fcuking idea what is going on with Manch...I used to read his posts and offered what I thought was good advice,but after a while I could see he wasn't listening to me or anyone else for that matter and he was just essentially "Sounding off" and dealing with what he was going through by posting on here...no harm done.


I like Manch,his addition here has livened the place up a bit ,if I want to click on a "Manch Thread" I will...more likely I won't.

Why are people having a problem with him?

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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by The Mallard Missie » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:06 pm

Because the OP is clearly a vindictive, uneducated cunt.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by leela » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:55 pm

No. The OP has been mostly keeping out of it, but watching some of us implode. And she wants that to end. She's right that it's unhealthy, and it's taken me nearly three days to get from obsessively replying to him, to completely removing myself.

Manch seems to have gone from posting drunk to posting close to the edge of insanity. It's extremely uncomfortable to see. I don't know if banning him would be a kindness, or whether it would tip him over the edge, though.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by The Mallard Missie » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:59 pm

Well I suffer from OCD and his posts haven't bothered me at all.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by leela » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:06 pm

Good for you.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by DCComic » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:07 pm

leela wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:55 pm
I don't know if banning him would be a kindness, or whether it would tip him over the edge, though.

Good enough reason to leave well alone.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by lolasf » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:16 pm

leela wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:55 pm
I don't know if banning him would be a kindness, or whether it would tip him over the edge, though.
You're right. But the constant attacks, by him and on him, are sad to see. Confining him to a few threads probably helps the mods keep track of who and what is being said.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by leela » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:33 pm

I think confining him is the only option. And there are two or three posters who maybe should have been advised by mods to cool it. Moe and RW crossed the line between tough love and cruelty, for instance.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by sodelicious » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:18 pm

leela wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:33 pm
I think confining him is the only option. And there are two or three posters who maybe should have been advised by mods to cool it. Moe and RW crossed the line between tough love and cruelty, for instance.
I don't think he should be banned or confined, we are free to use this place as we see fit. However he does cross the line with the rapey comments and the 'you will get yours' type comments. TRW and Moe are being downright sickening with the 'I hope you die' stuff.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Moethebartender » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:35 pm

sodelicious wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:18 pm
TRW and Moe are being downright sickening with the 'I hope you die' stuff.
I never posted a single comment indicating that I hoped he'd die you lying fucking cunt. I pointed out in no uncertain terms that this would be the likely outcome if he chooses to continue on the path he's on. So fuck you very much, you dumb fucking ice monkey.

I wasn't going to hammer the rummy that hard until he chose to bring my dead dad into things. At least I won't be stalking him in real life, unlike some other posters here.

In any case, don't worry, you'll be free to enjoy watching this clown swirl down the drain without any further interruption from me; I foed him. So enjoy the remainder of the show, fuckhead, hope you're getting a good laugh out of it.

Oh, and Leela, you can fuck off on this one too.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:56 pm

Threads like this just add fuel to the 'victim compex'

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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by rider5 » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:16 pm

I've never seen such handwringing on the stew. It almost qualifies as brisk exercise.

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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by SeamusMcCool » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:19 pm

sodelicious wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:18 pm
leela wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:33 pm
TRW and Moe are being downright sickening with the 'I hope you die' stuff.
I saw that he told Manch to set himself on fire. Very disturbing behaviour.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by DCComic » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:43 pm

SeamusMcCool wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:19 pm

I saw that he told Manch to set himself on fire. Very disturbing behaviour.
But not the kind of self-immolation that might be life threatening, of course. That would be dishonest and perhaps even a little hypocritical. I can look back and think 'I was in a dark place then' and realise that it's SOP for some poor bastards.
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Post by The Mallard Missie » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:23 am

Please ban lolasf for calling for ManchVegas to be banned.

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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Flobster! » Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:34 am

It seems to me that banning Manch would be like forcing homeless people away from city centres. It doesn't help them, but it does allow the nice people to ignore the problem.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by muthafunky » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:21 am

When you put it that way I’m down with banning Manch and Flobster

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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:31 am

Im with that!

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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by ManchVegas » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:27 am

LOL. Just noticed this! OK. I might do a self ban but what are the reasons I should be banned.

I never get a straight answer on this. Make a list. Tell me what I did wrong.

No one will do it because at the end of the day I've done nothing wrong.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by ManchVegas » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:31 am

Lola. I think you're addiction issue is clouding your judgment. I didn't make you a nicotine addict and it's not fair to take it out on me.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by ManchVegas » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:41 am

I'm not well and you all know it. How some of you could attack an unwell person is so cruel and nasty and you will get the shit filled, piss stained hospital bed at the end of your lives and don't you DARE ask "why me?" when it happens!

It will be well deserved!
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Steve_in_Exile » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:35 pm

Manch, I don't think you committed any specific cardinal sins that would lead to banning. You did post excessively to the point of dominating the forum, which makes it a much less fun place for others, and you did accuse others of attacking you and nobody really did, at least not without valid reason. And a couple of people did go overboard with their retaliatory strikes against you. And the whole "I'm a victim" thing got really old really fast.

Also, I don't think the mods need a specific reason to ban you, nor do they owe you an explanation if they choose to do it. I think they are within their rights to ban you simply because they want to keep this an enjoyable place for everyone.

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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by ManchVegas » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:42 pm

Thanks Steve for making an attempt to explain it to me.

I still don't see how my "overposting" really detracts from anyone's experience here. Just ignore them.
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Post by Steve_in_Exile » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:45 pm

Manch, I agree with you that a lot of people should have just ignored your excessive posting and just scrolled on by, and I certainly suggested just that several times. Their obsessive response contributed to the problem just as much as your obsessive posting did.

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Post by ManchVegas » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:56 pm

Thanks Steve. I know I've mentioned this before but I felt like it was a hostile gang, schoolyard mentality being used against me. The problem is that we're adults!
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by lolasf » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:09 am

Steve_in_Exile wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:35 pm

Also, I don't think the mods need a specific reason to ban you, nor do they owe you an explanation if they choose to do it. I think they are within their rights to ban you simply because they want to keep this an enjoyable place for everyone.
That. I'm all for having an open community center where anyone can post what they want, within (generous) reason. But when someone starts screaming in the living room for no reason and figuratively pissing on the furniture, I don't like that.
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Post by Steve_in_Exile » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:10 am

Yeah, Friggen Manch was pretty annoying.

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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by ManchVegas » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:12 am

Frickin' Lol-ster. You are the next one relegated to the shit filled, pissed stained bed at the end of life!

Steve, You just said that in hopes of getting laid. You're not fooling anyone!
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:17 am

No need to make a William Wallace out of this self serving drunk.

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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by lolasf » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:41 am

Steve_in_Exile wrote:
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Yeah, Friggen Manch was pretty annoying.
Was? Is.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Steve_in_Exile » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:46 am

Oh come on, he's gotten noticeably better in the last couple of days, or maybe the mods are just keeping him more contained.

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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by ManchVegas » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:54 am

Lol. I think maybe the mods were trying to ban me for my own good.

As mentioned earlier. I go back and forth on this. On the one hand Dedalus's comment of "You're a menace to society and I hope you die!" comment was really nasty but it was tempered with Shilgia's comment. So the net effect is that it was helpful.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by The Mallard Missie » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:02 am

Ban the Zillion Handles cunt.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:26 pm

ManchVegas wrote:
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Lol. I think maybe the mods were trying to ban me for my own good.

As mentioned earlier. I go back and forth on this. On the one hand Dedalus's comment of "You're a menace to society and I hope you die!" comment was really nasty but it was tempered with Shilgia's comment. So the net effect is that it was helpful.
Not an exact quote.

And i was referring to your drunk driving.

Again.

People here, and you, might think your drunk driving is ok.

It isn't.

If you are ever in a serious accident i hope you kill youself and take no poor innocents with you.

You are an arrogant, self pitying drunk driver.

Ok?

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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by ManchVegas » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:49 pm

The thing is Stephen. Posts like the one above don't help. They just make me turn to the bottle.

If you were serious you would reach out and try to provide real help.

Anyone can make a post like you just did. It takes a real man to offer real help.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:52 pm

Stop driving, you entitled prick

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Post by ManchVegas » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:57 pm

Stephen. Your posts to me aren't about me. They're about you and you know it.

Selfish self centered cunt!
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:59 pm

Stop driving a car, asshole

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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Vince » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:32 pm

lolasf wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:09 am
Steve_in_Exile wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:35 pm

Also, I don't think the mods need a specific reason to ban you, nor do they owe you an explanation if they choose to do it. I think they are within their rights to ban you simply because they want to keep this an enjoyable place for everyone.
That. I'm all for having an open community center where anyone can post what they want, within (generous) reason. But when someone starts screaming in the living room for no reason and figuratively pissing on the furniture, I don't like that.
Well I do.

If manch wants to implode and document that on the stew then I say go for it. Likewise if anyone wants to have a pop at him for his behaviour. I’m not into being nasty for the sake of it but if people think any to share and others want to have a go at what they shared then fine. That’s not bullying that’s just using an Internet forum.
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Post by ManchVegas » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:35 pm

That was a reasonable exchange Vince. Thanks!
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Vince » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:37 pm

ManchVegas wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:49 pm
The thing is Stephen. Posts like the one above don't help. They just make me turn to the bottle.

If you were serious you would reach out and try to provide real help.

Anyone can make a post like you just did. It takes a real man to offer real help.
Stephen is completely in the right on this one. Maybe it’s cultural or maybe youve just lost all perspective but the fact you think someone has the responsibility to reach out and help you not drink and drive would be laughable if it weren’t so morally bankrupt. I’m f people are so far gone they can’t help but drink and drive then they need less locking up right now.
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Post by ManchVegas » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:50 pm

Sorry. Not helpful and you really will be in the shit filled bed wondering why?
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by ManchVegas » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:53 pm

It really does boil down to the fact that there are two types of people in the world. My kind of people and assholes. It's obvious which category you fall into.
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Post by ManchVegas » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:14 pm

It's also the self centered cuntery of it. The fact that someone thinks they can jab away at a keyboard and feel really useful and have done a good deed.

You're doing that for you. NOT for me.

Those that engage in that owe me a big thank you!
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Vince » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:17 pm

You’re insane if you really believe that. There’s a reason why drink driving is illegal, and criticising people for drink driving isn’t.

You dont have to be a genius to see how you got yourself in this mess - it’s the sense of entitlement combined with the inability to take responsibility - two sides of the same coin I guess.

But I do believe it’s possible for you to be an alcoholic while choosing not to danger others so if you can do that you will have done the right thing and achieved something.
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Post by ManchVegas » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:25 pm

It's the public fashion of it. It's like "Look at me. How wonderful am I? I'm giving tough love to a drunk!" Oh please. Spare me and do something really useful like keeping the drunks off the roads in your town.

But you won't do that because that's not what you're after. What you're seeking is attention.

So pathetic, Grow up and get a life!
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by Vince » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:33 pm

Absolute nonsense. It’s not tough love. I just dont think you or anyone should be putting other people at risk through drink driving. That’s a straight up custodial sentence as far as I’m concerned.

Maybe it’s cultural. In my country drink drivers are pariahs and it’s not like we don’t drink a lot! We just don’t demand the right to be a fucking menace on the road.
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Re: Please ban Manch

Post by ManchVegas » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:37 pm

The thing is. You don't know all of the details and ARE just making a bunch of assumptions.

And I like how you DON"T encourage my move to Florida and be in walkable community! That's how I know you're a phoney.
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