A Real Woman Fights Back at the Religious Police in Iran
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That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. Am I entitled to believe anal sex is perversion?
well it's an opinion shared by those of us who are not into fucking our pets,family or kiddies,which is probably most people
You can believe that anal sex has a high yuck factor and it not something you would wish to partake of, that is your prerogative
When you call it a perversion you assign a moral value to it that is not shared by all
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You believe you are entitled to your opinions about everything. Anyone who does not agree with you is wrong.
Hell yes.That has nothing to do with being a liberal. I am a woman after all
But to address my opinion about what constitutes perversion.Is it wrong to feel that bestiality,incest and pedophilia are perversions?
According to you it is
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janieblack wrote:Incest involves a penis and a vagina. Is it normal? If it isn't normal, why? Your definition of "abnormal" does relate specifically to organs used, after all.
Unless it's brother-brother or father-son incest which would be abnormal due to the organs used.
Mother-son or father-daughter (presumably the Alias household model) incest would be perfectlyacceptable
Nicely done. This guy is getting beaten more often than a borrowed mule.
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alias said
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alias said
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Where did I say it is wrong to feel that beastiality, incest, and pedophilia are perversions. Show me.
judik said:
Bestiality,incest and pedophilia are perversions in my book
alias said
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
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well it's an opinion shared by those of us who are not into fucking our pets,family or kiddies,which is probably most people
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Tell me, why did you only include half of what you said and not the other half? Do you really need to be so fucking dishonest to make your point? Are you so totally bankrupt of integrity that you have to cheat? I am really disappointed in you. Really.
I told you if you kept talking I would show you what liars liberals are. You can't help yourselves.
I didn't think you would get it
But I tried
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Of course I know that is not what you said directly,but it could be inferred from our exchange you have to admit that
This whole OP is full of examples like mine
Why don't you just cut the crap,act reasonably and * most* people will respond in kind. I'm afraid though because of the precedent you set that you are going to get nothing but mockery from now on
When you start from the belief that liberals are liars (and I"m inferring that, even though you didn't state it,that all liberals are liars) there's not alot of room for dialogue,is there?
Of course I know that is not what you said directly,but it could be inferred from our exchange you have to admit that
This whole OP is full of examples like mine
Why don't you just cut the crap,act reasonably and * most* people will respond in kind. I'm afraid though because of the precedent you set that you are going to get nothing but mockery from now on
When you start from the belief that liberals are liars (and I"m inferring that, even though you didn't state it,that all liberals are liars) there's not alot of room for dialogue,is there?
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i_have_shiny_shoes wrote:The anus is not a sex organ. Therefore, anal intercourse is abnormal sex.
Sex act (P) + non sex organ (Q) = Abnormal sex (R)
intercourse (Sex act P) + anus (Non sex organ Q) = Abnormal sex (R)
fellatio (Sex act P) + mouth (Non sex organ Q) = Abnormal sex (R)
This could also be constructed as:
IF use of non-sexual organ in sex act (P) = Abnormal sex (Q)
THEN use of anus in sex act (R) = Abnormal sex (Q)
AND use of mouth in sex act (R) = Abnormal sex (Q)
etc
Forgetting that the argument itself is logically unsustainable for a moment, (as (P) does not imply (Q)) the use of the word therefore has confirmed that all sex acts not involving the sex organs are abnormal.
Hurray! I'm a pervert!
You are getting it wrong.
Alias seems to be arguing based on an obvious distinction that the rest of you won't deal with.
The distinction is between "sex act" (as you put it), and "intercourse".
Intercourse is a sex act, but not all sex acts are intercourse.
Alias is also using the educated and technical sense of "perversion". And he is absolutely correct. That the everyday usage of the word has itself been perverted is not his fault.
Perversion is a general description for some good thing not being used the way it should be, the way it was intended to be. In alias' example, the proper use of an anus is defecation. Things are supposed to go out of it, and not into it. The perversion there is as literal and material as it gets. To treat the exit as an entrance is a bad strategy in building access and egress. And it works for complete shyte as far as normal human sex is concerned.
By analogy, it is perfectly legitimate and strictly speaking logical to say that "the liberal" is by definition a "pervert". Every liberal is a pervert. They use their minds and words to lie. The proper use of those things is truth. Every time a liberal says anything at all, as a liberal, they are being a pervert.