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RIP foolsprogress

Post by CaminoDeb » Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:48 am

foolsprogress has passed. It was a tragic accident in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. I'm his exwife, and he mentioned last week how much fun he was having still posting with the old thorntree group. I registered and came in to tell you, his friends.

He was working in P Penh and slipped and fell between two docked boats, drowning. His body was recovered in the Tonle Sap about a day and a half after he drowned. His family and friends are devastated.

I will try checking back in at some point, but my address is harmanygroves at gmail

You are welcome to contact me.

So sorry---Debra Groves Cramer Harman

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Post by pezworld » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:01 am

I just approved this (many hours later).

I want to hope this is spam or something but....

Does anyone know him/his family?

:(
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:03 am

I swap emails with him a couple of times a year. We met in Bangkok.

I hope to goodness this isn't true.
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Post by Bill Barilko » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:04 am

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Post by andybox » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:11 am

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Post by pezworld » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:12 am

Debra, I'm so sorry for your loss. Thank you for letting us know.

This is awful.
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Post by erkat » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:20 am

Ah crap. :(

So sorry to hear this.

Just when you thought this year couldn't get any shittier.

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Post by rezuar » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:22 am

Oh NO!!!
This is awful.

RIP, foolsprogress.
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Post by DCComic » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:25 am

One of the good guys. He wrote thoughtfully here.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=168160
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Post by pezworld » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:31 am

DCComic wrote:One of the good guys. He wrote thoughtfully here.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=168160

He wrote eloquently about death in that. And he was gone about four hours later. sigh.
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Post by Chi_Rup » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:35 am

That's awful. Thanks for taking the time to let us know, Debra, you didn't have to with real things to deal with but it's really appreciated.

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Post by mad hatter » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:37 am

oh man. he was one of the good guys.
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Post by Flobster! » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:38 am

Oh man, that's terrible.
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Post by rezuar » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:41 am

pezworld wrote:
DCComic wrote:One of the good guys. He wrote thoughtfully here.
http://politicalstew.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=168160

He wrote eloquently about death in that. And he was gone about four hours later. sigh.

I just read that. This is so tragic.
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Post by (X) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:42 am

Very tragic indeed; my thoughts goes to those who knew him.
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Post by Potpie » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:57 am

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Post by VinnyD » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:01 am

From the header and the handle I thought foolsprogress was announcing a handle change. This is awful.

He will be missed. Deb, many thanks for letting us know even though so much else must be on your mind and must need to be done.

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Post by Troll_Handle » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:09 am

Very sorry to hear of your loss Debra. It must be very hard for you, for your children and for his parents too. He was a very well liked poster who enjoyed a debate, he'll be missed.

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Post by Klara » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:14 am

Thank you so much, Deb.
Terrible news.

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Post by Godjira » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:14 am

Very sorry for the news. See you later Fools, hopefully not too soon, but eventually.
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Post by Lavite » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:58 am

As others have said, he was one of the good guys. I wish him well on his next journey.
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Post by rider5 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:05 pm

That's... just unbelievable.

My heart goes out to his family and real life friends.

He was one of the better posters to grace this place.

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Post by polardude1 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:08 pm

Hol shit! So sorry to read the tragic news.
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Post by Chip_Oatley » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:16 pm

I'm so sorry to hear this.

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Post by incognita » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:39 pm

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Post by Jim-2012 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:53 pm

It's sad to hear that one of the good guys is gone. RIP.
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Post by Lost Soul » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:05 pm

Awful.

Awful.

This really sucks.

Thanks for the post, Debra.
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Post by flatfoot » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:11 pm

This is terrible. I'm so sorry for your loss, Debra.

He will be missed.

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Post by jessica_fletcher » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:17 pm

Thank you Debra for letting us know at this difficult time.

my thoughts are with you and FP's loved ones.
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Post by mishmish » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:33 pm

that is terrible :( going to miss his voice here. dang.

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Post by snowgirl » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:40 pm

Oh shit. This is awful. Many thanks for letting us know, deb. My heart goes out to his loved ones.
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Post by cuchulainn » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:42 pm

That's sad.

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Post by VinceFoster » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:43 pm

So sorry for your loss, Debra. It was very kind of you to let us know what happened. Thank you.

foolsprogress is going to be missed here and I'm certain that many of us feel very fortunate to have known him.
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Post by NorthAmerican » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:24 pm

RIP.
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Post by The Mallard Missie » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:35 pm

My heart is breaking over this - when he returned to this forum after an absence, I exchanged PMs with him and he responded with a lovely message when I told him about my late son.

We go back to the "old days" of LP/S E Asia.

I am utterly devastated. :cry:
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Post by DaBaba » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:36 pm

That's terrible news.

We are not promised the future so we have to live life now.

RIP foolsprogress. My sincere condolences to his friends and family.
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Post by Steve_in_Exile » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:44 pm

Shocking. He's been a voice of intelligence and reason on the forum for many, many years, and also was just an all around good guy. He will be missed by many in this forum who knew him over the years. Condolences to his family.

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Post by BeatRaven » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:50 pm

Maybe a decade ago, I ate at Senior Pico's Mexican restaurant with him and Argonheart Po. He wanted "real" Mexican. He pronounced it good enough.

Like he was here, he was very analytical in a way people could mistake for critical. He had something right to say about everything on the table, the room, the band, and the staff. He loved his wife and kids. To go out alone with me and Argonheart was a bit of a sacrifice for him.

'Not, I don't think, much of a fan of me. In the who's met who threads, he'd always make it a point to remember how unmemorable I was. But that long ago night was one of the better travelers cast together by fate/internet-dinners I've had in Bangkok.

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Post by eric84 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:51 pm

Wow, so shocking. I was glad to see his return to the stew which makes his death all the more sad. 2016 is one to forget. Condolences to his family and to all that knew him well.
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Post by aero » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:58 pm

I am so very sorry to hear this. My condolences to his family.

I met him several years ago when visiting Cambodia. He will be missed on the stew.

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Post by EMG » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:04 pm

That's so sad, I was sure I'd eventually make my way back to Cambodia and meet up with him. RIP. I will miss his posts.

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Post by Annotated » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:05 pm

Terrible news.

I always read his posts. Interesting guy. Good writer. Always intelligent and on point.

One of the very best posters on the site really.
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Post by EMG » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:07 pm

I appreciate that it was posted here, I never go to TP so wouldn't have seen the other one for months.

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Post by Kikilamour » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:08 pm

so tragic and what a fluke accident. so sorry.

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Post by Homerj » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:11 pm

RIP.
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Post by Steve_in_Exile » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:14 pm

Here is where this accident happened, more or less. Very shocking that such a small thing like falling on a walkway could be the end of someone...
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Post by polardude1 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:20 pm

Very shocking that such a small thing like falling on a walkway could be the end of someone...

We all know that freak accidents can end a life in an instant. Sadly he had a lot left on him before his untimely death
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Post by Annotated » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:24 pm

As was linked to before, here is a post of his from just the other day (one of his last posts, and I guess the accident probably happened that night).

RIP, fools.


foolsprogress wrote:
-americanjoe- wrote: (Death) How much do you fear it?

Interesting question now. Death really is nothing, in almost every sense, and it makes little sense to fear nothing. It can even be easy, if fast, if you are a good person, and you are alone in this world. In relation to my own death, I fear above all else not fulfilling my responsibilities to others, or failing to protect those that I should. I was never one to jump up and run toward the gunfire or get into some flying death trap just for the sake of doing it. I leave that foolishness to others. But I'm not one to run away either, but get low, suck it up and do my job, whatever that might be. It doesn't even really occur to me in those moments. Intensity distracts. It's waiting that's grating. But still, apply for the same sort of job next time. Though, with children, not like before. I don't want to check out early and leave them in the lurch, fail my responsibilities to them. I really don't. But I am a coward when it comes to loss. I do not want to experience the death of those closest to me, my family. Death is infinitely preferable to that. Right now, my mother lay dying. My father, her husband of 61 years, watching her fade, wishing it could be him, or that somehow God would have mercy and strike him down. I do not want to be there, ever. As somebody smarter than me said, "Lose life and one would lose nothing again for ever. I envied those who could believe in a God, and I distrusted them. I felt they were keeping their courage up with a fable of the changeless and the permanent. Death was far more certain than God, and with death there would no longer be the daily possibility of love dying. The nightmare of a future of boredom and indifference would lift." No sane healthy person wants to die, or is fearless in the face of death, but there are worse things.
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Post by BulletPark » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:26 pm

Terrible news. An excellent writer. Condolences to his family.

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Post by incognita » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:43 pm

Fixed.
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