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Post by ZAffer » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:59 pm

I'm not getting ANY information from experts. And neither is anybody else. What I'm looking at is what ISN'T being revealed. In your field, you should KNOW that the WORST people to ask are the pilots. I wonder if the NTSB are all pilots? I've flown a twin-seater micro-light. Oh, and my dad was a flying instructor. Some of that may have rubbed off. Now, why don't you tap these so-called 'experts' for some REAL information?Must be a pilot registry somewhere. Look up 'goodfellow'. Nice theory, but some blatant flaws in it. I'll bet he has ZERO experience in flying anything above a 727-era craft. "pull all the electrical bus breakers/fuses" or some such idiocy. That REALLY makes sense on a 777.
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Post by ZAffer » Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:59 pm

Draft movie script for Airplane 3. (The Al-Q version.) Practically writes itself.

Scene: INT, 777 cockpit.
CO: "Thankyou, and good night."
Capt: "Coffee?"
CO: "That would be great."
Capt leaves.
CO twiddles multi-selector switch on display unit to display 'VHF radio'. Changes frequency to Ho Chi Min City. Adjusts switch again to 'ACARS screen'. Changes squawk code.". Resets screen to moving map. Captain returns, hands CO a cup of coffee, sits down, stirs his. Throws stirrer in small bin bag. CO does the same.
CO: "You left the door open, Capn. "
Capt: Yes, I know. We're being hijacked." "Careful! That coffee is hot!"
Capt. "Don't worry about it. You know this will be my 5th hijacking, don't you? I'm getting the hang of it now. Al outside the door says he's only done 3, but better than nothing. "
CO: "Buuuu....buuuu....buuuuuu...."
Capt raises voice slightly. "Al, you can come in now!"
Al enters. He is dressed like Yasser Arafat, with a big gun and an explosives belt."
Capt: "All, pull that jumpseat down, and we can decide what to do next."
Al does so, and says: "Did you reach Ho Chi Min yet?"
CO: "No."
Al:" Excellent. Drop to FL 20, and turn due East, then back on autopilot."
Capt: 'Don't look at ME son; HE's the man with the gun! Just do it!"

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Post by k2w3 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:24 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we are in the same position we were in on day 1, with still no confirmed wreckage found, right? Funny how the news media has let this item slip to about 9th place (here at least, anyway). I bet that with all the reports of "x hundred pieces of flotsam spotted by Y satellite" over the last few days, a bunch of people assume it's pretty much put to bed, and they've found it. Those that don't pay close attention to the news, that is.
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Post by Agent009 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:46 pm

According to freelance journalist Jim Stone, one of the American passengers, Phillip Wood, a technical storage executive at IBM, who was aboard the now missing Malaysian Airlines flight, keystered his iPhone 5 in his anus after the Boeing 777 carrying 239 people was hijacked by military personnel while on route to China.

Amazingly, Stone claims that metadata within the photo yields evidence confirming “100 percent” that Phillip Wood sent the photo, along with a brief voice activated text, from GPS coordinates which put Wood only a few miles away from the U.S. controlled Diego Garcia military base which is located on an island south of the Maldives in the Indian Ocean. In his post Stone claims that the coordinates may be off by a few miles (see update below post), proving that the iPhone actually sent the otherwise blank black picture revealing nothing else. Stone speculates the picture was taken in a dark room or in some position in which Wood’s hands were bound.

As reported by Stone, the picture was posted along with the following text allegedly from Wood:

“I have been held hostage by unknown military personal after my flight was hijacked (blindfolded). I work for IBM and I have managed to hide my cellphone in my ass during the hijack. I have been separated from the rest of the passengers and I am in a cell. My name is Philip Wood. I think I have been drugged as well and cannot think clearly.”


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Post by matt_melb » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:18 pm

So Stone says that Wood took a photo on his mobile phone of the inside of his bottom, and that proves he's on Diego Garcia.

Right...

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Post by FUUZ » Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:03 pm

psssst!, wanna get a look at the real Howard Hughes diaries?....I know just the guy. His name is Stone.
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Post by egjeg » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:54 am

Possible black box pulse detected.
A Chinese ship involved in the hunt for the missing Malaysian jetliner reported hearing a "pulse signal" Saturday in Indian Ocean waters with the same frequency emitted by the plane's data recorders.

China's official Xinhua News Agency said a black box detector deployed by the ship, Haixun 01, picked up a signal at 37.5 kilohertz (cycles per second). However, Xinhua said it had not yet been determined whether the signal was related to the missing plane, citing the China Maritime Search and Rescue Center.

Malaysia's civil aviation chief, Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, confirmed that the frequency emitted by Flight 370's black boxes was 37.5 kilohertz.

Retired Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, chief coordinator of the Joint Agency Coordination Center - the Australian government agency coordinating the search - said Saturday the Haixun's report of electronic pulse signals could not be verified at this time. U.S. officials from the National Transportation Safety Board and FAA were not able to confirm the report, either.

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Post by andybox » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:44 am

Yeah dont tell Zaffer egjeg. Apparently those so called experts I spoke to havent a clue. Pilot suicide, climbed to 40k feet to induce hypoxia on the passengers and crew, decended to a safe altitude to continue flying to an area he knew would gain maximum exposure. Lunatic, Lost Soul nailed it the day it happened.

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Post by andybox » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:46 am

They just had another media conference and they picked up another pulse today in the same area.

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Post by cummy » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:49 am

yep. just watched the media conference. i guess we still have to wait for confirmation of anything.

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Post by northern_goddess » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:05 am

Let me guess... someone detected something. We aren't sure what it is or where it is but it might be the plane!!! or it might not.

(I haven't seen the media conference)
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Post by cummy » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:12 am

i don't believe you, noggers. for sure you did watch the media conference. you summarised it to a tee.

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Post by northern_goddess » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:15 am

Hahaha! OMG, too funny.

Actually the sad part is that it's not funny. Just incredibly predictable.
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Post by FUUZ » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:14 pm

And the batteries are about to be dead. They may never find the wreckage, if their IS wreakage.
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Post by Godjira » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:48 pm

northern_goddess wrote:Hahaha! OMG, too funny.

Actually the sad part is that it's not funny. Just incredibly predictable.


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Post by Bondi » Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:37 am

Someone from the Malaysian Consulate told me that someone in the Consulate who had family on the flight was told that is was an act of terrorism by an Malaysian Group.

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Post by VinnyD » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:41 am

bondi wrote:was told

By whom? And how did whoever it was know?

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Post by FUUZ » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:49 pm

I'm leaning a bit towards the pilot suicide scenario.
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Post by ZAffer » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:44 pm

andybox wrote:Yeah dont tell Zaffer egjeg. Apparently those so called experts I spoke to havent a clue. Pilot suicide, climbed to 40k feet to induce hypoxia on the passengers and crew, decended to a safe altitude to continue flying to an area he knew would gain maximum exposure. Lunatic, Lost Soul nailed it the day it happened.



So why climb to 44K?
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Post by ZAffer » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:46 am

Interesting one. (I was wondering if the autopilot could keep the plane flying when an engine flamed out.)

Helios Airways Flight 522 was a scheduled Helios Airways passenger flight that crashed into a mountain on 14 August 2005 at 12:04 pm EEST, north of Marathon and Varnavas, Greece, whilst flying from Larnaca, Cyprus to Athens, Greece. A lack of oxygen incapacitated the crew, leading to the aircraft's eventual crash after running out of fuel.
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Post by andybox » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:50 am

Yeah they do a circle until it runs out of fuel. 44K?

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Post by Lost Soul » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:52 am

andybox wrote:Yeah dont tell Zaffer egjeg. Apparently those so called experts I spoke to havent a clue. Pilot suicide, climbed to 40k feet to induce hypoxia on the passengers and crew, decended to a safe altitude to continue flying to an area he knew would gain maximum exposure. Lunatic, Lost Soul nailed it the day it happened.

This could be one of those posts where proper punctuation makes all the difference.

Here's hoping you meant to place a period after Lunatic.
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Post by andybox » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:53 am

Hahahaha yeah I did!!! Well spotted ;)

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Post by Lost Soul » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:56 am

ZAffer wrote:
andybox wrote:Yeah dont tell Zaffer egjeg. Apparently those so called experts I spoke to havent a clue. Pilot suicide, climbed to 40k feet to induce hypoxia on the passengers and crew, decended to a safe altitude to continue flying to an area he knew would gain maximum exposure. Lunatic, Lost Soul nailed it the day it happened.



So why climb to 44K?

I answered this the first time you asked it- to kill everybody on board. The 777 is only designed to pressurize to 42,000 feet.

But I look forward to answering it again in May.
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Post by ZAffer » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:45 pm

30 thou is plenty. Coulda just vented the cabin. While we're waiting: if they find the crash site, will it be more or less intact, or in a million bits?
It's flying at, say, 30K, and one engine flames out. Can the autopilot correct for this? Some googling says yes, but if 'no', the autopilot would disengage....which implies it fall like a rock. Not gonna be much to find.
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Post by FUUZ » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:41 am

A tv news report today said the last words broadcast from the plane were from the pilot, not the co-pilot.
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Post by chimes » Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:34 am

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Australia says it feels confident they have now narrowed down the search area to only a few square kilometers.

It's time for the submarine search now, a submarine with sonar.

Meaning (for imo all submarines use sonar), its sonar technology to be applied to locate any "strange" objects.

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Post by ZAffer » Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:39 am

FUUZ wrote:A tv news report today said the last words broadcast from the plane were from the pilot, not the co-pilot.


There's certainly a talent there for putting out wrong information! Are there ANY 'facts' that haven't changed???
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Post by chimes » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:43 am

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Approx. a week and a half into the search, people started suggesting that IATA should initiate a protocol, for the cooperation including military cooperation between countries in events such as with this poor aircraft.

You're right : "Are there ANY 'facts' that haven't changed???"
Afaik the only fact that did not change so far, is that all on board are still missing and the Boeing 777 as well.

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Post by chimes » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:33 pm

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They'll find it, the Ozzies.

They're só determined!

They''ll find it back for sure.

May take a couple of days less or more, but who cares?

Who truly cares, considering that all on board are long dead, but the future of Boeing - and indeed flying aircrafts in SE Asia - is at stake?

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Post by Lost Soul » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:28 am

The future of Boeing is not at stake.

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Post by matt_melb » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:46 am

Australian PM Tony Abbott seems to be extraordinarily popular with the Chinese leadership, just because Aus ships are doing some searching.

We may even get a free trade agreement with China out of it. And probably worth a few votes from the increasingly large Australian Chinese population.

Did Abbott arrange for the pilots to seize control and crash "near" the Australian coast, in order to set up these outcomes?

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Post by andybox » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:09 am

Abbott told the Chinese the search for the flight recorders has been narrowed down to 10 square kilometres.

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Post by ZAffer » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:36 am

Well, there should be a flurry of activity to update all that 70's technology! Not to mention FAA rules.
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Post by andybox » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:55 am

FAA rules regarding what, Zaffer?

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Post by ZAffer » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:23 pm

Hazardous cargo, specifically li-ion batteries.
More training under 'alternate law' conditions. Possibly the option of forcing alternate law at pilot discretion.
Better cabin pressure alarms.
Longer emergency oxygen time.
ACARS to report position.
Lower frequency/longer range black box pinger locations.
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Post by andybox » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:07 pm

How would that affect an aircraft like the Malaysian Airlines 777? I know Saudi follow FAA regulations closely with their GACA organisation, but the FAA are mostly for the USA. Now if you'd said the ICAO then maybe i'd agree with you. For what it's worth, the FAA and EASA/CASA/CAA are poles apart.

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ZAffer wrote:Hazardous cargo, specifically li-ion batteries.
ACARS to report position.

The muzzy pilot opened a hatch in the passenger section and climbed down during the flight in order to disconnect the ACARS radio.

Yeah, the FAA is to blame. :roll:

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"The muzzy pilot opened a hatch in the passenger section and climbed down during the flight in order to disconnect the ACARS radio."

That MUST have been the case. And we know that it must have been a useless muzzy because he couldn't even get that right.
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ZAffer wrote:"The muzzy pilot opened a hatch in the passenger section and climbed down during the flight in order to disconnect the ACARS radio."

That MUST have been the case. And we know that it must have been a useless muzzy because he couldn't even get that right.

The pilot got it right, all right.

The ACARS was shut off, along with the transponder.

What the murderer couldn't shut off were the Rolls Royce engine pings to an English satellite, with which they have honed the search area to an arc.

FIRE!

This thread needs another 100 posts by you, Saffer.

Maybe you can start blaming your FIRE on the FAA too.
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Post by ZAffer » Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:19 pm

Lost fart-you're STILL an ignorant cunt. The Acars was switched off. So where the fuck did the pings come from? The 'shut-down' acars, obvalls.
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Post by FUUZ » Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:00 pm

I say again what anyone with a smidgeon of common sense ought to be able to see: even if they find most of the parts of the plane and both flight recorders, that does NOT insure or guarantee that the cause or causes of the disaster will ever be known.

something that just occurred to me> maybe a number of the passengers had been in a bean eating contest shortly before the fatal flight and the resulting superabundance of afflatus caused an emergency and loss of conscienceness and eventually an explosion. :D
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Post by ZAffer » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:11 am

One thing, like the Air France one, does puzzle me a bit. It's obviously a race against time, but it's KNOWN the thing is in deep water. Surely the first thing to do would be to put a submarine, nuke or otherwise, in the area? A 'real world' exercise, and it's got all the tools to find a pinger.
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ZAffer wrote:One thing, like the Air France one, does puzzle me a bit. It's obviously a race against time, but it's KNOWN the thing is in deep water. Surely the first thing to do would be to put a submarine, nuke or otherwise, in the area? A 'real world' exercise, and it's got all the tools to find a pinger.

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Post by ZAffer » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:34 am

That's my point. With AF, they did, albeit late. Similar situation: surely those subs can't be doing such important stuff? "Hey johnny! Move to this area and sniff around." Gotta be more interesting than sailing in circles, or whatever it is they do.
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Post by andybox » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:56 am

Submersible is going down today (apparently) although they are tedious and very slow. Black box has stopped which was to be expected. An oil slick has surfaced, what else would produce an oil slick in that remote area?

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Post by chimes » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:17 pm

Lost Soul wrote:
ZAffer wrote:Hazardous cargo, specifically li-ion batteries.
ACARS to report position.

The muzzy pilot opened a hatch in the passenger section and climbed down during the flight in order to disconnect the ACARS radio.

Yeah, the FAA is to blame. :roll:

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Bull. You've entirely missed the information re. a fire on board (cargo room or anywhere else on the aircraft), and subsequent loss of all communication tools.

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Post by chimes » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:18 pm

ZAffer wrote:Hazardous cargo, specifically li-ion batteries.
More training under 'alternate law' conditions. Possibly the option of forcing alternate law at pilot discretion.
Better cabin pressure alarms.
Longer emergency oxygen time.
ACARS to report position.
Lower frequency/longer range black box pinger locations.


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