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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by Iolar » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:34 am

I enjoy this Australian deflection, I must say. It's Pavlovian.
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Post by AntiFelix » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:34 am

andybox wrote:Choices available in Australia but not Ireland: to be barefoot, and not pregnant.


Whereas all Australians are white trash, no choice.

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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by Iolar » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:40 am

I think the Australians have declared that it's "Black". White is the new Black. I'm not sure if Alan Joyce is Black, but he isn't Australian as he has the wrong accent and he's gay.
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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by andybox » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:48 am

I have dual citizenship. I'm black, English, Australian and 5"10. I win...

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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by Iolar » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:49 am

Do you wear shoes?
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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by AntiFelix » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:49 am

andybox wrote:I have dual citizenship. I'm black, English, Australian and 5"10. I win...


That´s cool. I´m a Dump Truck, and you had better capitalize It.
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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by andybox » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:50 am

Not when I'm barefoot.

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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by andybox » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:51 am

AntiFelix wrote:
andybox wrote:I have dual citizenship. I'm black, English, Australian and 5"10. I win...


That´s cool. I´m a Dump Truck, and you had better capitalize It.

I fix dump trucks for a living. A quick diagnosis says your running gear's fucked.

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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by Iolar » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:53 am

Well, there you go. You have the choice to be barefoot and not pregnant. Do Australian men have the choice to be pregnant?
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Post by matt_melb » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:00 am

Iolar wrote:I think the Australians have declared that it's "Black". White is the new Black. I'm not sure if Alan Joyce is Black, but he isn't Australian as he has the wrong accent and he's gay.

You tried hard to imply that he's not Irish!

What are you, anyway, Joyce's publicist?

As someone (maybe you) said a few pages ago, he-s a CEO in Australia but would at best be middle management anywhere else. This is the sad truth about Australia: we have a cultural cringe and regularly hire foreigners such as Joyce or Trujillo when there are better equipped locals.

But this doesn't fit with your racism narrative, so you won't accept it.

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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by andybox » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:03 am

That quote upthread by Felix about choices in Ireland wasn't from me.
To answer your question, unless I've grown a pair of tits and a vj between my thighs, it's highly unlikely I'd exercise my rights to become pregnant. But if i DID manage to be the first man to conceive, I'm glad I live here and not Catholicland. I'd just wander down to the day procedure centre and have it terminated.


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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by Iolar » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:09 am

You tried hard to imply that he's not Irish!


No, I didn't. I said that he was caricatured as a leprechaun despite being Australian. I didn't imply he was not Irish; that was your lazy inference. Are the accurate comprehension of words and understanding of subtlety and nuance not important parts of a lawyer's work in Australia?
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Post by AntiFelix » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:11 am

Wellpisser wrote:I'm brown (ish)


I´m 6'9''.
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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by Iolar » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:12 am

I'm glad I live here and not Catholicland.


And now we have religious bigotry. A bit rich to throw a slur around about a secular country when your head of state is also the head of a church.
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Post by matt_melb » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:18 am

Iolar wrote:No, I didn't. I said that he was caricatured as a leprechaun despite being Australian. I didn't imply he was not Irish; that was your lazy inference. Are the accurate comprehension of words and understanding of subtlety and nuance not important parts of a lawyer's work in Australia?

Now you're being disingenuous. You could hardly have said "he was caricatured as a leprechaun despite holding dual Irish and Australian nationality". I'm paying you the compliement of assuming you knew what you were doing with your word choice.

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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by Iolar » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:22 am

I'm paying you the compliement of assuming you knew what you were doing with your word choice.


Here's a tip: when conversing with an Anglophone who isn't Australian, you can assume that they understand the words which they use. Actually, presume it.
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Post by Flobster » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:23 am

Iolar wrote:No, I didn't. I said that he was caricatured as a leprechaun despite being Australian?


And of course Murdoch isn't Australian, he's seppo.
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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by Iolar » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:26 am

So now Joyce is neither Australian nor Irish. Australia has deemed it so. Is he Black and more importantly, in spite of his non-national status, may he still choose to be pregnant?
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Post by temporaryhandle » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:30 am

He should go barefoot if he does.

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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by matt_melb » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:32 am

Iolar wrote:
I'm glad I live here and not Catholicland.


And now we have religious bigotry. A bit rich to throw a slur around about a secular country when your head of state is also the head of a church.

You really are thin-skinned.

Does the alleged slur lie in:
(a) pointing out that the Republic is predominantly Catholic; or
(b) not wanting to live there?

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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by temporaryhandle » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:35 am

You really are thin-skinned.


iolar wouldn't have much choice to go barefoot then.

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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by Iolar » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:36 am

I disagree. Joyce being a leprechaun, his feet are probably quite hairy; leprechauns are akin to hobbits in hirsuteness but more verbose due to the gift of the gab. Aussie men seem to like being hairless. It's a lot of work for a wee leprechaun to wax his feet in order to fit in. It'd be easier to whine through his nose and be a true Ocker, I reckon.

Edited to make clearer for Australians.
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Post by temporaryhandle » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:40 am

Why are you refering to yourself in the third person? A little too much Jamiesons?

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Re: Australia's First Ever Black Leader

Post by Iolar » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:40 am

You really are thin-skinned.


From an Aussie? Ha. There's a picture of a bogan next to "translucent" in the dictionary here. I'm not surprised at your failure to understand why it's a slur. You did attribute the GFC to Catholicism on the other forum, forgetting about Lutheran Iceland.
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Post by Iolar » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:42 am

temporaryhandle wrote:Why are you refering to yourself in the third person? A little too much Jamiesons?


I left out the quote referencing the CEO from Qantas. I thought it was obvious when I mentioned the word "leprechaun". The quoting facility is cumbersome on mobile.
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Post by temporaryhandle » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:45 am

Thank you for replying to me, iolar. I just assumed I was being ignored. It wouldn't be the first time.

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Post by jono_in_adelaide » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:49 am

So, is this guy black, Black, Aboriginal or Aboriginie?

Or is he just a mixed race Australian?
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Post by janieblack » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:51 am

He's Aboriginal.
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Post by temporaryhandle » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:51 am

Who? Joyce? or iolar?

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Post by section8 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:54 am

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Post by Iolar » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:57 am

I'm a gay, male and pregnant Aborigine who speaks French with a Walloon accent. Speaking French rules out using public transport in Melbourne, I fear.
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Post by matt_melb » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:40 am

Iolar wrote:You did attribute the GFC to Catholicism on the other forum, forgetting about Lutheran Iceland.

I don't remember that. Please remind me. Are you sure it was me? I usually attribute the GFC to shoddy lending practices such as non-recourse home loans, and to blind faith in 25 year olds working for credit rating agencies.

Iolar wrote:Speaking French rules out using public transport in Melbourne, I fear.

More accurately, singing drunken songs on overcrowded train-replacement buses in Melbourne, and not shutting up when asked, may lead to abuse.

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Post by dBrother » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:58 am

matt_melb wrote:More accurately, singing drunken songs on overcrowded train-replacement buses in Melbourne, and not shutting up when asked, may lead to abuse.


Truly a voice of reason, yes you don't need to be foreign to be abused by drunks on public transport, just annoying, if they Hadda been fat they woulda been called fat
If they Hadda been ugly they woulda been called ugly
If they Hadda been good looking girls the abuser woulda called them sluts
If they Hadda been pretty boys the abuser woulda called them poofs
If they were black the abuser would've called them black cunts
If they were in a wheelchair the abuser woulda called them cripple cunts
If they Hadda been long haired Hippy's the abuser woulda called them ferals and told em to get a haircut, or shower
But they were French so the abuser told em to fuck off back to france
Non of the above statements are any more or less hurtful than any other to the intended target

But as mat said, they coulda just have shut the fuck up when asked with their drunken singing on a crowded bus in the first place and there wouldn't have been the dramas..... Fucken Arogant French
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Post by janieblack » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:02 am

More accurately, singing drunken songs on overcrowded train-replacement buses in Melbourne, and not shutting up when asked, may lead to abuse.

Um no, that's not really accurate either. That incident was a very ugly and racist one. There's no sugar coating it.
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Post by temporaryhandle » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:18 am

Now here are the people who know the difference between white and black:

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parent ... 6613093299

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Post by matt_melb » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:31 am

...Ms Sinnot and Ms Bloodworth are white and Ms Rucker and Ms Wallace are black and their school has held separate proms for white and non-white students for as long as it has existed.
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Beyond the school walls, townsfolk claim separate proms for whites and non-whites is a "tradition we don't need to change".


Wow.

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My favorite detail about these Australia threads is that they tend to be started by Brits and run by mostly Brits, Canadians, and Iolar, with Felix (who you must take Very Seriously) and EMG in cameo roles - yet who do you guys dig around for dirt on? Oh, right, Daddy. That's who. :lol:
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The Brits and irish are jelous of our higher living standards and quality of life, and felix is, well, felix
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Post by section8 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:12 am

Maybe we should merge all these threads into one giant mega-thread and print it for Felix. He can wallpaper his house with it.
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Whilst The Brits and Yanks just can't understand why we just don't 'get' the benefits of having an open immigration policy like they have, when the social, societal and economic advantages they have achieved through this open door policy are so glaringly obvious.
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or use it as toilet paper.

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:51 am

Dallas Scott - a black Australian black man talks about white Australian black men.

So does it make sense that any and all who identify as Aboriginal should be entitled to the same benefits because they have some Aboriginal heritage? Should those who self-identify as Aboriginal be exempt from being questioned when they are the recipients of funds aimed at closing the gap? When we see soaring rates of Aboriginal university graduates, is this an indicator of success if the graduates are not disadvantaged and are largely indistinguishable from most other non-Aboriginal Australians?…


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Post by Iolar » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:01 pm

The Brits and irish are jelous of our higher living standards and quality of life


I'm not. The standard of living and quality of life is very high in Ireland. Australia has better weather- whoop-de-doo, but lacks cultural pursuits. I prefer to live somewhere that isn't anti-intellectual and where culture transcends attending a footy match. If I want nice weather I fly to Spain or north Africa. You just need to look at the type of Irish person who is attracted to the Australian lifestyle, they're undereducated pasty bogans.

Are you sure it was me?


Yes, I'm sure.
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Post by Moethebartender » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:04 pm

section8 wrote:My favorite detail about these Australia threads is that they tend to be started by Brits and run by mostly Brits, Canadians, and Iolar, with Felix (who you must take Very Seriously) and EMG in cameo roles - yet who do you guys dig around for dirt on? Oh, right, Daddy. That's who. :lol:

That is pretty hilarious.

So, how long before this wraps up and ends up in the 'Famous Dishes' forum? Will this be the first thread there featuring the newbies?
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Post by chimes » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:07 pm

Iolar wrote:Well, there you go. You have the choice to be barefoot and not pregnant. Do Australian men have the choice to be pregnant?

I suppose so. Back in the 19-seventies already, a male Australian was the first - worldwide - to grow a foetus somewhere in his belly in order to give proper birth (by Ceasarian, I take it) once the baby would be old enough to be born.

Not kidding.

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Post by andybox » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:50 pm

Iolar wrote:
I'm glad I live here and not Catholicland.


And now we have religious bigotry. A bit rich to throw a slur around about a secular country when your head of state is also the head of a church.

Easy on your feet if you decide to take your shoes off Iolar; being that thin skinned could have serious consequences.

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Post by janieblack » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:54 pm

There are equivalent stories of light skinned Aboriginals who struggled enormously with the barriers created in them being able to claim their heritage.

Face it. Skin colour and 'blood strength' is a shit way to define Aboriginality. Which is why it isn't used any longer as a way to define Aboriginality. There are three criteria:

1. that a person is a descendant of an Aboriginal/TSI group
2. that they self-identify as Aboriginal/TSI
3. That their Aboriginal/TSI community claim them

So I fail to see how whites posing as Aboriginals satisfy point 3 and are getting all the goodies... I'd like to see more evidence of this fraud...
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:30 pm

And so we see an Ingsoc party member persuade herself - in public - that 2+2 does indeed equal 3.

It is not an improving spectacle.

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Post by matt_melb » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:02 am

Iolar wrote:
Are you sure it was me?


Yes, I'm sure.

I've thought about this further overnight. It definitely wasn't. You're either confused or you're deliberately libelling me.

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