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Post by Argonheart_Po » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:10 am

Canadian teen boys are more likely to be victims of physical dating violence, a disparity that has been documented — but rarely reported on — by researchers in other English-speaking countries.

During the past 12 months, did your boyfriend or girlfriend ever hit, slap or physically hurt you on purpose?” the study asked Canadian teens, along with dozens of other questions about eating habits, grades, and friendships...

But when you look at that difference over thousands and thousands of high-school kids, it’s huge" Saewyc told PJ Media.

Boys are “50 percent more likely to report physical dating violence” said Saewyc, and that’s “a gap that has been more or less consistent for the last two decades.”
Girls - please stop assaulting boys.
Think about how generally unacceptable for boys and young men to actually haul off and slap a girl. But for girls, there isn't the same social sanction for hitting a guy, whether they're dating or not,” said Saewyc.

Violence against men “doesn't raise the same outrage,” she added.
Enough is enough.
Warren Farrell — most recently the author of The Boy Crisis — told PJ Media by email Sunday that he’s known about the physical violence disparity since the late '90s, when he was researching for his book Women Can’t Hear What Men Don’t Say (1998).

“I uncovered eighteen studies of teen dating violence, ranging in time from the early '80s to mid-'90s. About fourteen of the studies found the women to be more frequently violent, and especially more likely to be violent in more severe ways,” he recounted.

“In one study, by Jan Stets and Debra Henderson (published in Family Relations in 1991), women were 15.8 percent more likely to admit to using physical violence, and were about 8 percent less likely to be victims,” he added, citing this study.

Violence against men is typically overlooked “because our survival as a species has been dependent on training our young men to be disposable—disposable either in war or in the workplace,” Farrell theorized.
Cease using female privilege to justify your violence.

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Post by Flobster! » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:15 am

Does the study give causes for this violence? I'd guess that a large amount of it was in response to sexual assault.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:21 am

But you’re an idiot.
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Post by jedgarandclyde » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:15 am

Well i guess it is OP, if you believe all those rape and torture places all over Melbourne are for guys only!!
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:24 am

I image that most of you boys have been beaten up by girls, particularly the low-status males who have replied so far.

But this is a safe space.

You can tell me all about it.
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Post by brodie_bruce » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:27 am

Argonheart_Po wrote:
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But you’re an idiot.

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:34 am

You too?

Tell Uncle Argon all about it.

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Post by DCComic » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:35 am

"in 2013, boys were 0.6 percent more likely to report physical violence from their partner."
Shocking.
Meanwhile
"Males were convicted of the vast majority of homicides in the United States, representing 89.5% of the total number of offenders."
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:43 am

Worldwide they may up four out of five victims too.
Boys are “50 percent more likely to report physical dating violence” said Saewyc, and that’s “a gap that has been more or less consistent for the last two decades.
Why do you condone girls attacking boys? Presumably you also condone boys attacking girls.

Because you have principle and not sides. Right?

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Post by Godjira » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:45 am

I’m not sure what is behind this study, but if there’s any truth to it, it’s probably because it’s taboo for most normal people for men to hit women.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:53 am

Well, it says that in the article - as one of the reasons.

It also mentions over a dozen other studies that replicate the result.
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Argonheart_Po wrote:
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Why do you condone girls attacking boys?

No post here would lead an averagely literate person to believe the poster condoned anything at all.
But you are not that good.
Your entire twisted worldview is built on a raft of similar errors.
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DCComic wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:35 am
"in 2013, boys were 0.6 percent more likely to report physical violence from their partner."
Shocking.
You dismissed it.

You couldn’t give a shit.
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You don't understand numbers, do you? Like words, to you they're vague cloudy things that mean whatever you want them to mean.
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Why don’t you read the thing before commenting for once?
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Post by erkat » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:36 am

Po, a serious question.
I know you have kids.
Not sure if you have a boy and girl ( I am not holder of the spreadsheet) but, if you do, can you answer seriously if you are more concered about a daughter facing sexual assault or a son a facing violence from a partner?

And yeah, I did note that the quote you provided didn't seem to be gender specific. Did it actually specify if the violence boys experienced was from male or female partners??

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Post by brodie_bruce » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:19 am

Argonheart_Po wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:34 am
But remember, big boys don’t cry.

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Post by brodie_bruce » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:22 am

But the last book I read was How not to be a Boy (https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Not-Boy-Ro ... 1786890089) so I'm not sure whether it's ok to cry or not.

Still, if Argon says one thing then doing/believing the opposite is usually the best plan.......
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Post by Steve_in_Exile » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:54 pm

This is kind of like when you see a cat smack a dog and you know the dog deserved it and that the dog is bigger and stronger and isn't going to get hurt anyway.

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Post by Ped_Yai » Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:34 pm

I saw this elsewhere. Maybe the place the OP got it from, if so, he's lagging by several days.

I don't buy it. It seems to that to reach this result you would have to expand the definition of "violence" to include the trivial.

I also noticed that in this study the boys capture the victimhood flag by a measly 0.6%.
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Post by eric84 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:11 pm

Which is not likely to be statistically significant.
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Post by birdlite » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:55 pm

From ArgPo's study of British Columbia dating
Data from the 2003 to 2013 BC AHS revealed that recent PDV victimization rates had significantly decreased among youth overall (5.9%-5.0%) and boys (8.0%-5.8%), but not girls (5.3%-4.2%)
While most of us may not rank name-calling, or bad-mouthing another to their friends as “violence,” the researchers say they included the psychological and relationship tactics because they can have a profound impact.
Also, it should be noted that boys reported more violence. The studies (Yes, there have been more than one), did not look into the conditioning of girls to accept assault and mistreatment as abuse.

I am not denying that girls commit violence -- only that if a boy tries to force a kiss on a girl, and she slaps him, there is a good chance that only one of them would report that as violence.

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“I uncovered eighteen studies of teen dating violence, ranging in time from the early '80s to mid-'90s. About fourteen of the studies found the women to be more frequently violent, and especially more likely to be violent in more severe ways,” he recounted.

“In one study, by Jan Stets and Debra Henderson (published in Family Relations in 1991), women were 15.8 percent more likely to admit to using physical violence, and were about 8 percent less likely to be victims,” he added, citing this study.
Enough is enough.

Teach your daughters not to be violent.
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Post by andybox » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:55 pm

A 27 year old study? Teens then, so I am assuming they would still be violent 40 somethings. What are you going to do about it? Are you going to tell the 40 something women over on Streeterville to stop being violent? No, of course you won’t.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:03 pm

You think they carry on being violent.

I don’t know if they do.

Is that your experience?
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Post by birdlite » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:04 pm

I was 6-years old when a boy tried to forcefully kiss me. I hit him to get away.
Only I was brought into the principal's office. My mom told the principal, over and over again, that I was just protecting myself.
Only I was punished. The boy continued to try to force kisses on girls.
Only when a girl's father got involved did the school address the boy's behavior.

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Post by brodie_bruce » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:51 pm

It's really not that hard not to be a massive cunt Poo. I'm sure you'll find a way to shit all over this as well.

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eric84 wrote:Which is not likely to be statistically significant.
Let’s see those p values!
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Argonheart_Po wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:24 am
I image that most of you boys have been beaten up by girls, particularly the low-status males who have replied so far.

But this is a safe space.

You can tell me all about it.
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Argonheart_Po wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:03 pm
You think they carry on being violent.

I don’t know if they do.

Is that your experience?
I’ve never encountered a violent female when dating. Have you?
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Post by jedgarandclyde » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:36 am

Do you really believe this downright crap you post Poo?

In Australia there were 5 females killed by their partners in 7 days recently, and it is not the 1st time you have come on here and posted un-factual rubbish.

Do please stop doing so.
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Post by Electrolyte » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:17 am

My 3 year old daughter hits me all the time.

But if I ever hit her everyone will go berzerk.

Clearly the system is rigged against men.

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:28 am

guruwil wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:19 pm
Argonheart_Po wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:24 am
I image that most of you boys have been beaten up by girls, particularly the low-status males who have replied so far.

But this is a safe space.

You can tell me all about it.
Back in the very early 80’s I was a punk and I went with a couple of mates to an allniters ska gig which was unsurprisingly full of skinheads. A very large skinhead female taller and wider than me by some margin beat the living crap out of me. Granted she was backed up by a very large mob of large skinhead guys who would have killed me had it looked like I was getting the upper hand, but there wasn’t much danger of that. She was mean, and strong.
Heh.

Good story. Well done for posting it.
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brodie_bruce wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:51 pm
It's really not that hard not to be a massive cunt Poo. I'm sure you'll find a way to shit all over this as well.

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-a ... 508c2.html
It’s terrible.

But how is pointing out that 14 seperate studies showing that boys are more likely to be victims of violence from girls than the other way around anything to do with it?
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Post by guruwil » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:31 am

Argonheart_Po wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:28 am
guruwil wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:19 pm
Argonheart_Po wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:24 am
I image that most of you boys have been beaten up by girls, particularly the low-status males who have replied so far.

But this is a safe space.

You can tell me all about it.
Back in the very early 80’s I was a punk and I went with a couple of mates to an allniters ska gig which was unsurprisingly full of skinheads. A very large skinhead female taller and wider than me by some margin beat the living crap out of me. Granted she was backed up by a very large mob of large skinhead guys who would have killed me had it looked like I was getting the upper hand, but there wasn’t much danger of that. She was mean, and strong.
Heh.

Good story. Well done for posting it.
However your premise is still bullshit, but then you know that, that’s not the point for you.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:37 am

The key to studies like these is replication.

Now it’s been replicated 14 times over a long period and in different countries we can say it’s true.

As to whether most of you have been duffed up by a psycho-chick, that might be an exaggeration.
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Argonheart_Po wrote:
brodie_bruce wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:51 pm
It's really not that hard not to be a massive cunt Poo. I'm sure you'll find a way to shit all over this as well.

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-a ... 508c2.html
It’s terrible.

But how is pointing out that 14 seperate studies showing that boys are more likely to be victims of violence from girls than the other way around anything to do with it?
14 studies say that boys are more likely to *report* experiencing violence when interviewed. No detail, yet, that I have seen about girls being conditioned to *violence* as "boys just being boys" or silence derived from "you deserved it".

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Post by BulletPark » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:25 pm

Well, Poo, you have a teenage daughter (according to you).

So beat the little cunt up.

It's the least you can do to help redress this grievous wrong.

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Argonheart_Po wrote:
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Why don’t you read the thing before commenting for once?
I assume since you've read it that you have access to a non-paywalled version. Can you post that please.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:34 pm

BulletPark wrote:
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Well, Poo, you have a teenage daughter (according to you).

So beat the little cunt up.

It's the least you can do to help redress this grievous wrong.
If you don’t want to be called a rapist - even though you post about your past sexual assaults (which make you ‘cringe’ - so that’s okay then) - then you could at least stop talking like one.
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Post by BulletPark » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:38 pm

Beat the little cunt, or GTFO, Poo.

I want to see broken teeth, clumps of hair, blood stains on the floor.

And she'd better not slap any teenage boy who grabs her tit. Violence, you know.

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Post by BulletPark » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:42 pm

Maybe your sons could become Proud Boys?

They probably both take it up the shit-pipe.

They're in the rec room fucking each other and you're glued to your seat, tapping away about bitch-smacks.

Sounds about right.

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:45 pm

Two posts?

You posted your best most hurtful reply. Then thought of a better one.

You’re on fire champ!
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Re: Boys More Likely To Be Victims of Dating Violence Than Girls

Post by BulletPark » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:46 pm

Why has no one called social services on your incest-ridden, child beating ass?

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Re: Boys More Likely To Be Victims of Dating Violence Than Girls

Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:50 pm

Hmm.

A little weaker. Losing your momentum a bit, tiger.

Grrr!
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Re: Boys More Likely To Be Victims of Dating Violence Than Girls

Post by BulletPark » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:52 pm

Did you just come?

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Post by BulletPark » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:53 pm

Oh my God.

You just came.

That is fucking disgusting.

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Re: Boys More Likely To Be Victims of Dating Violence Than Girls

Post by thegreenlantern » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:02 pm

equus wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:20 pm
Argonheart_Po wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:31 am
Why don’t you read the thing before commenting for once?
I assume since you've read it that you have access to a non-paywalled version. Can you post that please.
If he had read it, he would have posted quotes from the study instead of quoting a "Pajamas Media" write up. Linking the study when the OP contains no quotes from it is ... an odd choice.

The study itself is pretty open about its limitations. For example,
prevalence rates of PDV victimization have varied widely, based, in part, on sample characteristics and study location, past-year rates of between 3.3% (Hanson, 2010) and 57% (Watson, Cascardi, Avery-Leaf, & O’Leary, 2001) have been reported among middle and high school students.
So reporting biases and definitions of violence matter quite a bit in terms of prevalence.

The question the study relies on is also interesting:
The criterion variable for trend analysis was PDV victimization in the past year, which was measured with the survey item “During the past 12 months, did your boyfriend or girlfriend ever hit, slap or physically hurt you on purpose?” Response options were “no” (0), “yes” (1), and “not in a relationship (97).” The wording of this item is identical to that used in studies of trends in PDV victimization in the United States (e.g., Rothman & Xuan, 2014).
Leaves open the possibility that reporting bias, or experience of violence, is heterogeneous by gender based on severity. The study also concludes that the gap it observes is primarily attributable to a very recent increase in self-reports of violence among boys. If boys are feeling more open to self-reporting, does this reflect 1) a consistent, underlying higher incidence of violence against boys; 2) reflect that boys now report instances of violence that girls don't think count; or 3) reflect that boys are more likely to be slapped or hit while girls are more likely to be beaten or raped?

Argon wants to use beaten children as a way to troll liberals, because literally nothing is so awful that it deserves serious consideration when there are anonymous people on the internet to berate. But the study points to a real puzzle in understanding interpersonal violence, and set of victims that deserve more.
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Re: Boys More Likely To Be Victims of Dating Violence Than Girls

Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:03 pm

BulletPark wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:53 pm
Oh my God.

You just came.

That is fucking disgusting.
* burp *

You’ve hurt yourself. You should put some ice on that.
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