The day the world laughed at trump

Main Course
coffeeguy
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 9247
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:26 pm

The day the world laughed at trump

Post by coffeeguy » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:54 am

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion ... -at-trump/

It might be remembered as the moment when the world’s response to the Trump threat shifted from paralytic horror to dismissive laughter.

U.S. President Donald Trump’s address to the United Nations General Assembly in New York Tuesday morning contained many of the elements that left the free world aghast in 2017: Promises to tear up crucial international climate, trade and nuclear-peace agreements; threats of war (against Iran this time, but not North Korea); kind words for strongmen and dictators with little but scorn for the democratic world.

This time, however, the response from many of the other 100-plus world leaders present was laughter and ridicule. Mr. Trump opened his address with a flourish of characteristically ludicrous braggadocio (“My administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country”), cut short by very audible peals of laughter from the heads of state and government gathered in the General Assembly.

STORY CONTINUES BELOW ADVERTISEMENT

Mr. Trump reacted with visible discomfort – “Didn’t expect that reaction,” he muttered to the audience. After all, over the past decade he has frequently denounced the Obama administration’s policies by declaring, in speeches and tweets, that “the world is laughing at us.” For the first time, it really was, at the highest level, and directly to his face.

One was reminded of Franz Kafka’s description of the type of person whose “ludicrous aspect” inspires uncontrollable laughter among otherwise serious listeners: “an individual in the public eye whose lofty position is not solely a function of his own accomplishments.”

The laughter was more than an incidental backdrop to more serious issues. It represented, in a way, an emerging global response to Mr. Trump’s angry unilateralism.

While many countries remain threatened by Mr. Trump’s isolationist, unco-operative United States, at this point they have effectively priced Mr. Trump into his country’s share price – and the rest of the UN membership spent the remainder of the day trying to devise a world order that can function without the United States.

In the core of his speech, Mr. Trump denounced international co-operation on peace, disarmament and environmental protection as an intolerable manifestation of “unelected, unaccountable, global bureaucracy,” as a set of “threats to sovereignty” from “global governance.”

In his key sentence, a declaration with overtones rooted in the 1930s that seemed to have been penned by one of his advisers on the extreme right, Mr. Trump intoned: “America is governed by Americans. We reject the ideology of globalism, and we embrace the ideology of patriotism.”

This sort of ultra-nationalist, isolationist rhetoric is nothing new to the UN General Assembly: Although the United Nations was created, in the aftermath of the Second World War, to prevent such ideas from rising to dominance again, many leaders, both democratic and authoritarian, have used the assembly to lash out at perceived conspiracies and plots directed by the world community. Leaders of the far left and far right have denounced “globalism.” The shock of such words coming from the mouth of a U.S. president was new and palpable in 2017, but by now they have become a familiar, if disquieting, piece of performance art.

STORY CONTINUES BELOW ADVERTISEMENT

Nor is Mr. Trump the first U.S. president to approach the General Assembly with outspoken disdain: Both Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush began their terms in office with scornful and dismissive attitudes toward the international community, which they saw, and expressed in General Assembly addresses, as antithetical to conservative U.S. interests (both presidents, however, ended their eight-year terms with changed attitudes, delivering supportive and warmhearted farewell addresses to the assembly, embracing the UN system).

The worry among democratic leaders on Tuesday morning was not that Mr. Trump had turned against them, but that he might succeed in creating a united bloc among like-minded isolationists and ultra-nationalists. His speech pointedly named the countries he considers friends – Poland, Saudi Arabia, India and (for the moment) North Korea – while saying nothing good about any Western democracies and explicitly denouncing Germany (for relying on Russian petroleum).

What has changed, since Mr. Trump first articulated his pessimistic doctrine in 2017, is the world’s response. Aside from the laughter, much of the day was devoted to other major-country leaders outlining an alternative way of conducting international business – presumably without requiring U.S. involvement.

“I deeply believe in the sovereignty of people” – not of national governments, French President Emmanuel Macron began in a very well-received speech. “In the 21st century, we should only triumph through bolstered multilateralism.”

Mr. Macron drew a sharp line between the Trump image of a global conspiracy and the sort of co-operation that attempts to solve grave international problems: “My point is, I don’t believe in generalized or empty globalization … I believe in universal values. Those are two different things. Here today, even [among] those who might criticize it, we have all benefited from the way global order is structured around globalization.”

That remark was met, by most of the other leaders, with a lengthy ovation

User avatar
eric84
Moderator
Posts: 54425
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:31 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by eric84 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:19 am

He definitely didn’t like it. Got angry about kavanaugh’s accusers, retweeted modern right stooge praise of his speech. He’s not used to that dealing with flunkies and crowds of trumpiedoodle supporters.
Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair.

User avatar
twodogs
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 8247
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:21 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by twodogs » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:39 am

It sounded like most of the laughter was from his comment on the first couple of snickers.




At any rate the UN was never "the world" and is becoming less admired with every child it molests.
More irrational spitefulness coming from twodogs...

User avatar
Argonheart_Po
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 19120
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:28 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Argonheart_Po » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:41 am

“The world”

I’m sure most people don’t like Trump, but who cares what those wankers think.
“We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.” —C.S. Lewis

User avatar
twodogs
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 8247
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:21 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by twodogs » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:45 am

Hopefully this will lead to the US withdrawing from the UN entirely for the safety of children the world over.
More irrational spitefulness coming from twodogs...

User avatar
Godjira
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 66373
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:52 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Godjira » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:51 am

twodogs wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:39 am


is becoming less admired with every child it molests.
You're confusing the UN with the Republican Convention.
That's the kind of bold flavor they enjoy in Albuquerque!

User avatar
Nines
Regular Guy
Posts: 11786
Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:38 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Nines » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:00 am

The whole world is richer, humanity is better, because of this beautiful constellation of nations, each very special, each very unique, and each shining brightly in its part of the world.

In each one, we see awesome promise of a people bound together by a shared past and working toward a common future.

As for Americans, we know what kind of future we want for ourselves. We know what kind of a nation America must always be.

In America, we believe in the majesty of freedom and the dignity of the individual. We believe in self-government and the rule of law. And we prize the culture that
sustains our liberty -– a culture built on strong families, deep faith, and fierce independence. We celebrate our heroes, we treasure our traditions, and above all, we love our country.

Inside everyone in this great chamber today, and everyone listening all around the globe, there is the heart of a patriot that feels the same powerful love for your nation, the same intense loyalty to your homeland.

The passion that burns in the hearts of patriots and the souls of nations has inspired reform and revolution, sacrifice and selflessness, scientific breakthroughs, and magnificent works of art.

Our task is not to erase it, but to embrace it. To build with it. To draw on its ancient wisdom. And to find within it the will to make our nations greater, our regions safer, and the world better.

To unleash this incredible potential in our people, we must defend the foundations that make it all possible. Sovereign and independent nations are the only vehicle where freedom has ever survived, democracy has ever endured, or peace has ever prospered. And so we must protect our sovereignty and our cherished independence above all.

When we do, we will find new avenues for cooperation unfolding before us. We will find new passion for peacemaking rising within us. We will find new purpose, new resolve, and new spirit flourishing all around us, and making this a more beautiful world in which to live.

So together, let us choose a future of patriotism, prosperity, and pride. Let us choose peace and freedom over domination and defeat. And let us come here to this place to stand for our people and their nations, forever strong, forever sovereign, forever just, and forever thankful for the grace and the goodness and the glory of God.

Thank you. God bless you. And God bless the nations of the world.

Thank you very much. Thank you. (Applause.)
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-st ... w-york-ny/

User avatar
eric84
Moderator
Posts: 54425
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:31 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by eric84 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:02 am

Argonheart_Po wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:41 am
“The world”

I’m sure most people don’t like Trump, but who cares what those wankers think.
Trumpiedoodle does. So desperately wants to be feared. You can tell how taken aback he was by the reaction.
Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair.

User avatar
cuchulainn
Instigator
Posts: 30648
Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:57 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by cuchulainn » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:06 am

Trump is a buffoon.

User avatar
Annotated
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 20676
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:20 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Annotated » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:13 am

twodogs wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:39 am
It sounded like most of the laughter was from his comment on the first couple of snickers.


Of course it was, but you know fake news ... and the tards that gobble it up like their lives depend on it.

User avatar
eric84
Moderator
Posts: 54425
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:31 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by eric84 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:17 am

Foxnews tweeted a clip, slicing out the laughter. Too funny.
Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair.

User avatar
twodogs
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 8247
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:21 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by twodogs » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:17 am

Nines wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:00 am
The whole world is richer, humanity is better, because of this beautiful constellation of nations, each very special, each very unique, and each shining brightly in its part of the world.

In each one, we see awesome promise of a people bound together by a shared past and working toward a common future.

As for Americans, we know what kind of future we want for ourselves. We know what kind of a nation America must always be.

In America, we believe in the majesty of freedom and the dignity of the individual. We believe in self-government and the rule of law. And we prize the culture that
sustains our liberty -– a culture built on strong families, deep faith, and fierce independence. We celebrate our heroes, we treasure our traditions, and above all, we love our country.

Inside everyone in this great chamber today, and everyone listening all around the globe, there is the heart of a patriot that feels the same powerful love for your nation, the same intense loyalty to your homeland.

The passion that burns in the hearts of patriots and the souls of nations has inspired reform and revolution, sacrifice and selflessness, scientific breakthroughs, and magnificent works of art.

Our task is not to erase it, but to embrace it. To build with it. To draw on its ancient wisdom. And to find within it the will to make our nations greater, our regions safer, and the world better.

To unleash this incredible potential in our people, we must defend the foundations that make it all possible. Sovereign and independent nations are the only vehicle where freedom has ever survived, democracy has ever endured, or peace has ever prospered. And so we must protect our sovereignty and our cherished independence above all.

When we do, we will find new avenues for cooperation unfolding before us. We will find new passion for peacemaking rising within us. We will find new purpose, new resolve, and new spirit flourishing all around us, and making this a more beautiful world in which to live.

So together, let us choose a future of patriotism, prosperity, and pride. Let us choose peace and freedom over domination and defeat. And let us come here to this place to stand for our people and their nations, forever strong, forever sovereign, forever just, and forever thankful for the grace and the goodness and the glory of God.

Thank you. God bless you. And God bless the nations of the world.

Thank you very much. Thank you. (Applause.)
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-st ... w-york-ny/
Thanks Nines that is a beautiful speech. Hopefully when the EU dies the lefts dream of one world government will die with it.
More irrational spitefulness coming from twodogs...

User avatar
Flobster!
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 30675
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:12 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Flobster! » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:19 am

I wish Trump would get on with this isolationism.
The pies and sausage rolls are good in Australia - Iolar

User avatar
Annotated
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 20676
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:20 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Annotated » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:23 am

It's not isolationism, it's America first.

And trust me, you should be the last person to want Trump to go isolationist.

Now that Smoker is out of the sandbox, Aussies are at the Stew's bleeding edge of needing Daddy ... and badly.

User avatar
eric84
Moderator
Posts: 54425
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:31 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by eric84 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:24 am

He’s not really accomplished much globally, has he?
Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair.

User avatar
Flobster!
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 30675
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:12 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Flobster! » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:24 am

There's zero risk of Trump or anyone else turning around American imperialism.
The pies and sausage rolls are good in Australia - Iolar

User avatar
twodogs
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 8247
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:21 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by twodogs » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:30 am

eric84 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:24 am
He’s not really accomplished much globally, has he?
Not his circus, not his monkeys.
More irrational spitefulness coming from twodogs...

User avatar
twodogs
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 8247
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:21 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by twodogs » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:33 am

Flobster! wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:24 am
There's zero risk of Trump or anyone else turning around American imperialism.
It will be difficult but it has to end eventually and President Trump has a better chance than most of getting it done.
More irrational spitefulness coming from twodogs...

User avatar
eric84
Moderator
Posts: 54425
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:31 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by eric84 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:33 am

Oh he has a circus where he over promises and under delivers.
Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair.

User avatar
birdlite
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 10721
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:00 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by birdlite » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:36 am

Annotated wrote:
twodogs wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:39 am
It sounded like most of the laughter was from his comment on the first couple of snickers.


Of course it was, but you know fake news ... and the tards that gobble it up like their lives depend on it.
The "first couple of snickers" were so audible they stopped him in his tracks and shook him up.

Nines- thanks for the Stephen Miller text but you seem to have excluded the Trump comments that drew the laughter.
"his administration has accomplished almost more than any other in the history of the United States."
What bullshit, but not unexpected from someone who has proven to be clueless about American history and government.

And Trump and/or Miller invoking God is simply ridiculous. We all know what they worship.


User avatar
Annotated
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 20676
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:20 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Annotated » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:41 am

birdlite wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:36 am
The "first couple of snickers" were so audible they stopped him in his tracks and shook him up.
A few idiots boorishly laugh at somebody they hate. Within 20 seconds, Trump has the whole audience on his side and even applauding.

Fake News Reports: Whole World Laughs at Trump

Tards Report: Trump Stopped in His Tracks and "Shook Up"

:roll: You people would be funny if you weren't so fucking stupid.

User avatar
Flobster!
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 30675
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:12 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Flobster! » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:42 am

No-one likes Trump except a few Americans.
The pies and sausage rolls are good in Australia - Iolar

User avatar
Annotated
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 20676
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:20 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Annotated » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:43 am

OK.

But you'll still suck his dick when he tells you.

Now, if "the world" had a sense of humor, it would laugh at that! LOL!

User avatar
Godjira
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 66373
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:52 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Godjira » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:46 am

More like they're chomping his Toad-shaped dick.
That's the kind of bold flavor they enjoy in Albuquerque!

User avatar
strife
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 16571
Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:51 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by strife » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:49 am

Flobster! wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:19 am
I wish Trump would get on with this isolationism.
You don't want to be isolated. You need welfare.
I am Stalking you.

User avatar
dBrother
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 23030
Joined: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:54 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by dBrother » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:26 am

Annotated wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:13 am
twodogs wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:39 am
It sounded like most of the laughter was from his comment on the first couple of snickers.


Of course it was, but you know fake news ... and the tards that gobble it up like their lives depend on it.
yeah, they were definitely laughing louder with him after his comments replying to the initial subdued amusement of the crowd..

he's so gunna do two terms, the economy is up, the BLM issue has been subdued, press coverage of cops killing blacks is down, the war in Syria is all but over, there's peace on the horizon in the Korean peninsula, Jerusalem has finally been recognized as the true home of the people of Israel, he makes the political news on the TV interesting..
.

User avatar
birdlite
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 10721
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:00 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by birdlite » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:02 pm

Annotated wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:41 am
birdlite wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:36 am
The "first couple of snickers" were so audible they stopped him in his tracks and shook him up.
A few idiots boorishly laugh at somebody they hate. Within 20 seconds, Trump has the whole audience on his side and even applauding.

Fake News Reports: Whole World Laughs at Trump

Tards Report: Trump Stopped in His Tracks and "Shook Up"

:roll: You people would be funny if you weren't so fucking stupid.
Trump has the audience on his side and applauding him.
Sure. They weren't laughing at him for trying to pretend it was a joke.

Face it, the Cheeto sits alone, like at previous Global Meetings
Image
Image

User avatar
lederhosen
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 327
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:43 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by lederhosen » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:11 pm

"A few idiots boorishly laugh at somebody they hate. Within 20 seconds, Trump has the whole audience on his side and even applauding. "

Sounds much better in the original Russian...

User avatar
dBrother
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 23030
Joined: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:54 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by dBrother » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:03 pm

birdlite wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:02 pm
Annotated wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:41 am
birdlite wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:36 am
The "first couple of snickers" were so audible they stopped him in his tracks and shook him up.
A few idiots boorishly laugh at somebody they hate. Within 20 seconds, Trump has the whole audience on his side and even applauding.

Fake News Reports: Whole World Laughs at Trump

Tards Report: Trump Stopped in His Tracks and "Shook Up"

:roll: You people would be funny if you weren't so fucking stupid.
Trump has the audience on his side and applauding him.
Sure. They weren't laughing at him for trying to pretend it was a joke.

Face it, the Cheeto sits alone, like at previous Global Meetings
Image
Image
May seriously looks like she's missing a chromosome or two there..
.

User avatar
twodogs
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 8247
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:21 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by twodogs » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:13 pm

dBrother wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:26 am
he's so gunna do two terms, the economy is up, the BLM issue has been subdued, press coverage of cops killing blacks is down, the war in Syria is all but over, there's peace on the horizon in the Korean peninsula, Jerusalem has finally been recognized as the true home of the people of Israel, he makes the political news on the TV interesting..
It sure looks that way now but if the Democrats can nominate another relatively unknown, charismatic, reasonably moderate minority like Obama they could easily win. The problem is they don't seem to have one.

Most voters don't lover President Trump they hate the establishment.
More irrational spitefulness coming from twodogs...

User avatar
Jim-2012
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 9437
Joined: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:32 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Jim-2012 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:27 pm

twodogs wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:45 am
Hopefully this will lead to the US withdrawing from the UN entirely for the safety of children the world over.
Yeah, Styx gets it right:

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”
“When you are taking FLAK, you know you are over the target”

User avatar
eric84
Moderator
Posts: 54425
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:31 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by eric84 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:36 pm

"Like that's just your opinion, man."
Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair.

coffeeguy
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 9247
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:26 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by coffeeguy » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:57 pm

President Trump has long been obsessed with the notion that the rest of the world was laughing at America. “We need a President who isn’t a laughing stock to the entire World,” he tweeted in 2014. Apparently he isn’t that president. When Trump told the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday, “In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country,” the delegates, representing the entire world, literally laughed at him.

And for good cause. As the assembled leaders know perfectly well, Trump, in fact, has little to show for his 20 months in office beyond unnecessary chaos and hopeless confusion. (So much for his famous statement that we’d all be winning so much that we’d “be sick and tired of winning.”) He came to the United Nations, after all, with his Supreme Court nominee fighting off allegations of sexual impropriety and his deputy attorney general rumored to be on the way out for supposedly discussing the possibility of removing him from office via the 25th Amendment. Trump is an unstable personality who has produced an unstable administration — and therefore an unstable world.

Trump’s U.N. speech broke no ground but did remind everyone of how dysfunctional and dangerous he is. His predictable paean to unilateralism — “We reject the ideology of globalism and we embrace the doctrine of patriotism” — underlines the dismaying fact that he remains determined to undo the American-led world order created by the Greatest Generation out of the ashes of two world wars to prevent a third.


His most laughable line was to claim “I have forged close relationships and friendships and strong partnerships with the leaders of many nations,” when, in fact, he has alienated virtually all of the United States’ allies save Saudi Arabia and Israel. And he even kicked the Saudis in the shins by declaring that “OPEC nations are ripping off the rest of the world and I don’t like it. Nobody should like it. We defend many of these nations for nothing, and then they take advantage of us by giving us high oil prices.”

If Trump wants to allocate blame for rising oil prices (which just hit a four-year high), he might look at his policy of reimposing sanctions on Iran even though it was abiding by its nuclear commitments. In pulling out of the nuclear accord, Trump has further alienated our European allies, who are setting up a financial vehicle to facilitate trade with Iran despite the U.S. sanctions. And for what? The New York Times reports that his own defense secretary, Jim Mattis, “has told aides that he has yet to see any difference in Iran’s behavior since Mr. Trump withdrew the United States from the agreement between world powers and Tehran.”

While denigrating so many of America’s allies, Trump failed to call out Russian President Vladimir Putin, who, with his aggression, poses an infinitely greater threat to national sovereignty than does the hapless International Criminal Court.


Trump had nothing but kind words for the bloodthirsty North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, who in the space of a year has gone from “Little Rocket Man” to “Chairman Kim”: “I would like to thank Chairman Kim for his courage and for the steps he has taken,” he said. Those steps, however, don’t include actual denuclearizing. Kim is continuing to advance his nuclear and missile programs while demanding fresh concessions from Washington — and Trump appears likely to cave in by agreeing to another summit that is likely to be as vacuous as the last one.

Trump’s approach toward trade is just as substance-free and just as counterproductive. He bragged about “the successful completion of the brand-new U.S.-Korea trade deal,” even though the revamped U.S.-Korea Free Trade Agreement isn’t much different from the old one. He also boasted of a “groundbreaking” trade agreement with Mexico even though the deal isn’t done and doesn’t break any ground. So far Trump has had no success in getting Canada to sign up for his vapid attempts to rebrand NAFTA (the North American Free Trade Agreement) as the USMC (not U.S. Marine Corps but, rather, U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade agreement).

Even worse is Trump’s trade war with China, the United States’ largest trading partner. He evidently thought Beijing would buckle under his pressure, but instead Xi Jinping is firing back with his own tariffs, and Trump is finding that trade wars are neither good nor easy to win.


The nearest to a legitimate win that Trump could claim is his success in driving “the bloodthirsty killers known as ISIS … out from the territory they once held in Iraq and Syria.” But he did so largely following a blueprint put in place by his hated predecessor, and the war is far from over, with experts warning that the Islamic States may be poised for a comeback in Syria and Libya.

Little wonder that, with his foreign policy creating so much pain for so little gain, Trump is being laughed at by his peers. The situation would be even worse if his own appointees did not work so hard to prevent him from doing what he wants. Trump may be able to convince a shrinking base of devotees that he is winning nonstop, but the rest of the world isn’t buying the bumper-sticker slogans he is peddling in lieu of a serious foreign policy.

coffeeguy
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 9247
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:26 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by coffeeguy » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:58 pm


coffeeguy
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 9247
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:26 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by coffeeguy » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:04 pm

Jim-2012 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:27 pm
twodogs wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:45 am
Hopefully this will lead to the US withdrawing from the UN entirely for the safety of children the world over.
Yeah, Styx gets it right:

So why haven’t you? You’ve got an anti U.N. president and Congress, why haven’t you pulled out, given up your seat on U.N. security council and veto and the billions The UN pumps intO the US economy? Could it be your just puppets beIng manipulated by empty words from trump and the other anti U.N. malcontents?

User avatar
Chi_Rup
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 25067
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:08 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Chi_Rup » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:08 pm

The passion that burns in the hearts of patriots and the souls of nations has inspired reform and revolution, sacrifice and selflessness, scientific breakthroughs, and magnificent works of art.
That’s interesting. I would be excited to learn of your suggestions for great works of art inspired by Patriotism.

It’s sad that the world is heading toward a Star Trek future without you, USA. Well, at the moment anyway. Trumpism isn’t leaving any permanent changes to the world, just a rosy glow in the hearts of elderly racists.
Last edited by Chi_Rup on Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Jim-2012
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 9437
Joined: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:32 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Jim-2012 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:09 pm

So why haven’t you? You’ve got an anti U.N. president and Congress, why haven’t you pulled out, given up your seat on U.N. security council and veto
I doubt if any president has that authority. There are too many NWO members in congress.
“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”
“When you are taking FLAK, you know you are over the target”

User avatar
Annotated
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 20676
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:20 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Annotated » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:20 pm

Chi_Rup wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:08 pm
It’s sad that the world is heading toward a Star Trek future without you, USA.
That's funny, when Trump said he wanted a space force, tards like you laughed. Now you say you're going to do it without us.

Not fair!

You tricked us into giving up on our dreams.

Now Scotland is going to be whizzing all around the galaxy and America is going to be stuck on old planet earth!

Not fair!

User avatar
Chi_Rup
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 25067
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:08 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Chi_Rup » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:28 pm

You don’t have the money to Space Force on your own, be realistic. The biggest economy in the world, Europe, is driving now.

I forgot, maybe the main historical impact of Trumpism is young American people calling themselves socialists. That’s brand new, you have to admit.

User avatar
Annotated
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 20676
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:20 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Annotated » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:30 pm

Chi_Rup wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:28 pm
You don’t have the money to Space Force on your own, be realistic.
We will when we stop paying for your safety.

User avatar
Chi_Rup
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 25067
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:08 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Chi_Rup » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:35 pm

You have to realise that won’t happen. What are you going to do with all those out of work armed service people? What about the contractors?

Space Force is a third term project at best. And you are not doing enough to make that third term happen, weakling.

User avatar
Annotated
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 20676
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:20 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by Annotated » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:47 pm

We don't need a 3rd term when we have Ivanka.

User avatar
birdlite
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 10721
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:00 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by birdlite » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:44 pm

Chi_Rup wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:08 pm
The passion that burns in the hearts of patriots and the souls of nations has inspired reform and revolution, sacrifice and selflessness, scientific breakthroughs, and magnificent works of art.
That’s interesting. I would be excited to learn of your suggestions for great works of art inspired by Patriotism.

It’s sad that the world is heading toward a Star Trek future without you, USA. Well, at the moment anyway. Trumpism isn’t leaving any permanent changes to the world, just a rosy glow in the hearts of elderly racists.
Oh, I think there are great works of art inspired by Patriotism, probably most in sculpture. In painting, I would say that Wyeth, Wood, some of the great WWI/WWII poster art
But Trump couldn't name one art piece, and I would be afraid of any art Stephen Miller could name.

As for Trump and scientific breakthroughs, well, we all know how he feels about science.

User avatar
twodogs
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 8247
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:21 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by twodogs » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:45 pm

Chi_Rup wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:35 pm
You have to realise that won’t happen. What are you going to do with all those out of work armed service people? What about the contractors?
The US doesn't need to eliminate the military just the foreign bases. It will save the US a lot of money and reduce tensions around the world.

When the foreign bases close the contractors will be even busier selling more arms to the rest of the world, you needn't worry about them.
More irrational spitefulness coming from twodogs...

polardude1
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 59691
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:30 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by polardude1 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:47 pm

The moment the US removes thier presence in NK, any peace agreement with SK will not be worth the toilet paper Trump wipes his ass with
DCComic "3000 dead Americans is slightly less than fuck all",

User avatar
birdlite
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 10721
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:00 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by birdlite » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:47 pm

Annotated wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:20 pm
Chi_Rup wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:08 pm
It’s sad that the world is heading toward a Star Trek future without you, USA.
That's funny, when Trump said he wanted a space force, tards like you laughed.
People laughed because we have NASA for space exploration and the Air Force for satellite defense.
People laughed at Trump because he was totally unaware of what we were doing in either capacity, especially the ISS and Mars work.
But the NASA and Air Force people weren't laughing.

User avatar
twodogs
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 8247
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:21 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by twodogs » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:52 pm

The US doesn't need land bases and ground troops to create a presence. That can be accomplished with missiles and bombs without endangering US lives.

My guess is Korean Reunification will occur faster without a US presence.
More irrational spitefulness coming from twodogs...

polardude1
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 59691
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:30 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by polardude1 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:28 pm

My guess is Korean Reunification will occur faster without a US presence
.

Yes in a way that might not be so beneficial to SK
DCComic "3000 dead Americans is slightly less than fuck all",

RedsailsII
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 835
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:01 pm

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by RedsailsII » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:58 pm

Gosh. nice to see Donnie thanking Rocket Man at the U.N. for taking steps to destroy his nuclear arsenal. Nothing at all has been done yet, but Donnie knows what the future holds:

“The missiles and rockets are no longer flying in every direction, nuclear testing has stopped, some military facilities are already being dismantled,” Trump said. “I would like to thank Chairman Kim for his courage and for the steps he has taken, though much work needs to be done.”

User avatar
birdlite
Stew Ingredient
Posts: 10721
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:00 am

Re: The day the world laughed at trump

Post by birdlite » Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:08 pm

"Donald Trump’s speech to the UN was met by widespread laughter, and diplomats have confirmed that their delegations were laughing at — not with — the US president.

“Sometimes, when we see a behavior or listen to arguments or notions that seem so far-fetched, unreasonable, or insane, there is almost natural reaction of laughing,” one Latin American diplomat said, speaking off the record so he could speak freely.

The diplomat added, “It is not laughing at a good joke, but a nervous laugh, or a bad joke turned laughable precisely because the guy who tells the joke doesn't realize how bad it is.”

Laughter filled the UN General Assembly room on Tuesday after Trump said his administration “has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country.”

“His words in the opening part of the speech were clearly addressed to [a] domestic audience,” wrote one European diplomat in a message that noted that other world leaders do the same. “But as he did it in the Trumpian way (bragging ridiculously about being one of the best administrations in history) people in the audience reacted how they reacted.”

“What would resonate well at a political rally in America sounded a little awkward at the UN General Assembly,” the diplomat added.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/em ... nald-trump

Post Reply