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Post by Lost Soul » Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:06 am

I'm not trying to convince you, doofus.
I'm on your side in this, janitor with a subliterate handle of English comprehension.

In Australian words, there was no need for the doofus, doofus.

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Godjira wrote:
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Handle on, not of.
Maybe Flobby can tutor you about Engrish?
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Post by Godjira » Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:24 am

Maybe you should deal with own vast library of serious problems before criticizing others.
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Godjira wrote:
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Maybe you should deal with own vast library of serious problems before criticizing others.
Yes, you do have a vast library of serious problems.

And yes, your vast problems almost overwhelm the problems of others.

But I still find time to correct Flobby when he needs correcting; which is weekly.
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Lost Soul wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:06 am
I'm not trying to convince you, doofus.
I'm on your side in this, janitor with a subliterate handle of English comprehension.

In Australian words, there was no need for the doofus, doofus.

Carry on.
Doofus in not an Australian word.

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Re: reading of the names of the WTC victims

Post by VinnyD » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:46 am

Jim-2012 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:52 pm
Scrubb wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:01 pm
Sigh.
Scrubb, did you watch the video I posted just above your post?
This video quite well demonstrates the absurdity of the Deep State official story.
You can believe the Deep State official story, but it is so ludicrous that I don't believe a word of it.
9/11 happened because GWB and the neocons felt they needed a "Pearl Harbor" event to persuade the American people (terrorize them) into accepting the wars of hegemony in the Middle East. I think that was a despicable thing to do.
Jim, what about the rest of her post? Do you accept the fact that the hijackers' names were on the manifests?

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Post by Jim-2012 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:57 am

VinnyD wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:46 am
Jim-2012 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:52 pm
Scrubb wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:01 pm
Sigh.
Scrubb, did you watch the video I posted just above your post?
This video quite well demonstrates the absurdity of the Deep State official story.
You can believe the Deep State official story, but it is so ludicrous that I don't believe a word of it.
9/11 happened because GWB and the neocons felt they needed a "Pearl Harbor" event to persuade the American people (terrorize them) into accepting the wars of hegemony in the Middle East. I think that was a despicable thing to do.
Jim, what about the rest of her post? Do you accept the fact that the hijackers' names were on the manifests?
Vinny, whether or not the alleged hijackers' names were on the flight manifests is probably the least important issue of the whole absurd, ludicrous, official narrative that the Deep State fed to the news media to persuade the American people that we were under attack by Muslims. Funny that at least 7 of the alleged hijackers were found alive in the Middle East and were interviewed by the media. But since the claim of Muslim hijackers was so central to the official narrative, it's interesting that their names didn't appear on every release by the media.
Can nobody on the Stew, besides me, see through this incredible charade by the Deep State and reject it outright?
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Post by Jim-2012 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:15 pm

If you think the Deep State is benign, here are just 3 programs that they were involved with:

The Phoenix Program (Vietnamese: Chiến dịch Phụng Hoàng, a word related to fenghuang, the Chinese phoenix) was a program designed, coordinated, and executed by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), United States special operations forces, U.S. Army intelligence collection units from the U.S. Military Assistance Command, Vietnam (MACV—the joint-service command that provided command and control for all U.S. advisory and assistance efforts in Vietnam), special forces operatives from the Australian Army Training Team Vietnam (AATTV),[1] and the Republic of Vietnam's (South Vietnam) security apparatus during the Vietnam War.
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The major two components of the program were Provincial Reconnaissance Units (PRUs) and regional interrogation centers. PRUs would kill or capture suspected VC members, as well as civilians who were thought to have information on VC activities. Many of these people were taken to interrogation centers and were tortured in an attempt to gain intelligence on VC activities in the area.[7] The information extracted at the centers was given to military commanders, who would use it to task the PRU with further capture and assassination missions.[7] The program's effectiveness was measured in the number of VC members who were "neutralized",[8] a euphemism[9][10] meaning imprisoned, persuaded to defect, or killed.

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Operation Northwoods memorandum (13 March 1962)[1]

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Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The plans detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.[2] The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[3][4][5]
At the time of the proposal, communists led by Fidel Castro had recently taken power in Cuba. The operation proposed creating public support for a war against Cuba by blaming it for terrorist acts that would actually be perpetrated by the U.S. Government.[6] To this end, Operation Northwoods proposals recommended hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:
The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.
Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The operation recommended developing a "Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington".
The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense. Although part of the U.S. government's anti-communist Cuban Project, Operation Northwoods was never officially accepted; it was authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy.


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According to the FBI: saving the anthrax vaccine program, i.e., "The anthrax vaccine program to which [Dr. Ivins] had devoted his entire career of more than 20 years was failing.… Following the anthrax attacks, however, his program was suddenly rejuvenated."[1] and "a possible motive was his concern about the end of the vaccination program…, and one theory is that by launching these attacks, he creates a situation, a scenario, where people all of a sudden realize the need to have this vaccine."[2]
The 2001 anthrax attacks, also known as Amerithrax from its FBI case name, occurred within the United States over the course of several weeks beginning on September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters were mailed containing anthrax spores to several news media offices and to Democratic Senators Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy, killing 5 people and infecting 17 others. According to the FBI, the ensuing investigation became "one of the largest and most complex in the history of law enforcement".[3]
A major focus in the early years of the investigation was a bio-weapons expert named Steven Hatfill who was eventually exonerated. Another suspect was Bruce Edwards Ivins who became a focus of investigation around April 4, 2005. Ivins was a scientist who worked at the government's biodefense labs at Fort Detrick in Frederick, Maryland. On April 11, 2007, Ivins was put under periodic surveillance and an FBI document stated that "Bruce Edwards Ivins is an extremely sensitive suspect in the 2001 anthrax attacks."[4] On July 29, 2008, Ivins committed suicide with an overdose of acetaminophen.[5]
Federal prosecutors declared Ivins to be the sole culprit of the crime on August 6, 2008, based on DNA evidence leading to an anthrax vial in his lab.[6] Two days later, Senator Chuck Grassley and Representative Rush D. Holt, Jr. called for hearings into the Department of Justice and FBI's handling of the investigation.[7][8] On February 19, 2010, the FBI formally closed its investigation.[9]
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Post by polardude1 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:42 pm

Geez, the world has never seen hijackers from the Middle East. never happened. Also the existence of AQ is just a myth.

Jim, I heard that Sandy Hook was a false flag operation by the the "Deep State" under Obama. The victims and the families are all actors
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Post by VinnyD » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:49 pm

Jim-2012 wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:57 am
VinnyD wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:46 am
Jim-2012 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:52 pm

Scrubb, did you watch the video I posted just above your post?
This video quite well demonstrates the absurdity of the Deep State official story.
You can believe the Deep State official story, but it is so ludicrous that I don't believe a word of it.
9/11 happened because GWB and the neocons felt they needed a "Pearl Harbor" event to persuade the American people (terrorize them) into accepting the wars of hegemony in the Middle East. I think that was a despicable thing to do.
Jim, what about the rest of her post? Do you accept the fact that the hijackers' names were on the manifests?
Vinny, whether or not the alleged hijackers' names were on the flight manifests is probably the least important issue of the whole absurd, ludicrous, official narrative that the Deep State fed to the news media to persuade the American people that we were under attack by Muslims. Funny that at least 7 of the alleged hijackers were found alive in the Middle East and were interviewed by the media. But since the claim of Muslim hijackers was so central to the official narrative, it's interesting that their names didn't appear on every release by the media.
Can nobody on the Stew, besides me, see through this incredible charade by the Deep State and reject it outright?
Jim, do you accept the fact that the hijackers' names were on the manifests?

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Post by Jim-2012 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:59 pm

Vinny wrote:Jim, do you accept the fact that the hijackers' names were on the manifests?
I don't know if the bogus hijackers' names were on any manifests anywhere, but the alleged manifests that Polar posted did not include their names.
Do you believe the Deep State, or are you still a part of it?
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Post by polardude1 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:17 pm

That was a partial list provided soon after 911 and no one made any secret about that
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Post by VinnyD » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:15 pm

Jim, what effort have you made to find out if the hijackers' names were on the manifests?

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Post by Jim-2012 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:45 pm

VinnyD wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:15 pm
Jim, what effort have you made to find out if the hijackers' names were on the manifests?
Why should I find out if bogus hijackers' names appeared on any lists?
The Deep State was controlling the narrative, so they could, and did, feed all kinds of lies to their media minions.
Do you doubt that Operation Northwoods was planned by the Deep State, and only bravery by JFK prevented it from being carried out?
Do you doubt that the Deep State carried out the Anthrax Attacks, since the weapons grade anthrax was only available to them?
How do you feel about the Phoenix program carried out by the CIA in Vietnam?
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Post by polardude1 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:48 pm

Are te airlines in collusion with the "Deep State". What about the airline staff who checked the passengers in to t=he flights?
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Are te airlines in collusion with the "Deep State". What about the airline staff who checked the passengers in to t=he flights?
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polardude1 wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:49 pm
Are te airlines in collusion with the "Deep State". What about the airline staff who checked the passengers in to t=he flights?
Yes, like the media, at least some of the airline staff are under the control of the Deep State.
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Post by polardude1 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:58 pm

I heard the most residents of Manhattan who witnessed the attacks are under control of the "Deep State"
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Post by Jim-2012 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:01 pm

polardude1 wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:58 pm
I heard the most residents of Manhattan who witnessed the attacks are under control of the "Deep State"
Some of the "Eyewitnesses" who parrot the Deep State line may have been planted there to talk to the media. Not all the eyewitnesses said they saw airliners, but they saw & heard explosions.
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That's a bigly project Jim. It might have involved hundreds of thousands if not millions of people.
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Post by Scrubb » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:12 pm

Some of the posters on this site were eye witnesses. They all saw airplanes hitting the buildings. Some of them saw an airplane flying extremely low over Washington. Many people saw the second plane hit the second tower live on TV. What everyone saw on TV corresponded exactly with what millions of people in NYC observed, live.

Anyone who discards what millions of eye witnesses saw - not a few, not the tiny number of dissenters who aren't sure what they saw - is out of touch with reality.
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Post by Jim-2012 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:19 pm

Scrubb wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:12 pm
Some of the posters on this site were eye witnesses. They all saw airplanes hitting the buildings. Some of them saw an airplane flying extremely low over Washington. Many people saw the second plane hit the second tower live on TV. What everyone saw on TV corresponded exactly with what millions of people in NYC observed, live.

Anyone who discards what millions of eye witnesses saw - not a few, not the tiny number of dissenters who aren't sure what they saw - is out of touch with reality.
You are free to believe what you want to believe; I cannot accept the official narrative put out by the Deep State because there are too many irrational aspects of it.
State propaganda has historically been very powerful at convincing people (the masses) of irrational things.
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The Deep State actually does false flags...

Post by Jim-2012 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:34 pm

Rebekah Roth explains Operation North Woods and other false flags proposed or actually carried out by the Deep State.

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Post by Chi_Rup » Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:04 pm

You can’t watch that video on this site. Because it only exists to gain hits and revenue, rather than an honest exchange of information.

Care to explain what it says?

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Post by matt_melb » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:34 am

Everyone in the world is under the control of the Deep State, except Jim.

The sole purpose of Deep State, and everyone in the world, is to create an artificial environment as part of a mind control experiment on Jim.

ETA: Whoops, I wasn’t supposed to give away that secret, was I. Sorry, everyone. Now we’ll probably have to liquidate Jim and start again with another subject.

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Post by Godjira » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:19 am

What about the moon landing, Jim?
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You guys feel threatened by the truth!
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Post by Flobster! » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:53 am

No, I feel threatened by how easily people are persuaded to become acolytes of frauds on the make after watching a few of their videos.
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Post by Godjira » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:59 am

When my kids were babies, if they had a soiled diaper, I would change them. That’s what Jim has done with reality.
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Post by Jim-2012 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:03 pm

I have proved that the Deep State had previously planned a false flag similar to the 9/11 event, and only the bravery of JFK prevented it from being carried out. Will you people never learn?
Operation Northwoods
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Operation Northwoods memorandum (13 March 1962)[1]

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Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The plans detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.[2] The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[3][4][5]
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Jim, do you concede that aluminium could have melted in the WTC fires?
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Jim, do you concede that aluminium could have melted in the WTC fires?
If aluminum melts, it doesn't glow orange like iron and steel does; firemen reported the orange glow and I have posted a photo of the melted steel glowing. You are afraid of the truth.
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Post by Flobster! » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:21 pm

No, my question was: Do you concede that aluminium could have melted in the WTC fires?

I ask because quite recently you claimed that the fires would not have been hot enough.
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Flobster! wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:21 pm
No, my question was: Do you concede that aluminium could have melted in the WTC fires?

I ask because quite recently you claimed that the fires would not have been hot enough.
If aluminum melted there, it wouldn't have been from flight 175, because it never got there.
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Post by Flobster! » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:29 pm

Third time : Do you concede that aluminium could have melted in the WTC fires?
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Post by Jim-2012 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:37 pm

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Third time : Do you concede that aluminium could have melted in the WTC fires?
If it did, there wouldn't have been much aluminum there to burn.
The 9/11 event was a false flag, similar to the planned Operation Northwoods.
Do you doubt that Operation Northwoods was planned by the Deep State?
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Jim-2012 wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:03 pm
I have proved that the Deep State had previously planned a false flag similar to the 9/11 event, and only the bravery of JFK prevented it from being carried out. Will you people never learn?
Operation Northwoods
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Operation Northwoods memorandum (13 March 1962)[1]

Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who was in charge as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The plans detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.[2] The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[3][4][5]
That wasn't the "deep state" it was the regular old "state".

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Post by Flobster! » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:42 pm

Jim, I asked you a simple question and you won't answer it. I gave you 3 chances. Now I'm foeing you.
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Post by Jim-2012 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:50 pm

Flobster! wrote:
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Jim, I asked you a simple question and you won't answer it. I gave you 3 chances. Now I'm foeing you.
I answered your question; You just don't like my answer because it is the truth.
“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”
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Re: reading of the names of the WTC victims

Post by strife » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:11 pm

Are we There yet?
I am Stalking you.

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Re: reading of the names of the WTC victims

Post by Usher73 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:22 pm

I remember elementary school seesaw. up, down, up ,down till the bell rings, or one side junps off and the other side crashes to the ground.

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Post by VinnyD » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:35 pm

I don't understand why the Deep State doesn't have those YouTube videos taken down.

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Re: reading of the names of the WTC victims

Post by Jim-2012 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:41 pm

VinnyD wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:35 pm
I don't understand why the Deep State doesn't have those YouTube videos taken down.
The Deep State through its minion, Google, is moving towards removing all sources that expose the lies of the Deep State. The Deep State has realized that people talking to each other are a threat to them.
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Re: reading of the names of the WTC victims

Post by VinnyD » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:48 pm

Moving fucking slowly then. People have been peddling these or similar fictions for eighteen years now.

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Re: reading of the names of the WTC victims

Post by Jim-2012 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:51 pm

VinnyD wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:48 pm
Moving fucking slowly then. People have been peddling these or similar fictions for eighteen years now.
Are you threatened by dissension, Vinny?
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Re: reading of the names of the WTC victims

Post by VinnyD » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:55 pm

No. But I am bothered by willful stupidity.

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Re: reading of the names of the WTC victims

Post by Usher73 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:58 pm

Oh my god, this could blow up the internet.

Jim vs Vinny

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Post by Godjira » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:03 pm

Usher73 wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:58 pm
Oh my god, this could blow up the internet.

Jim vs Vinny
It's kind of like that scene in The Matrix where Neo fights Morpheus.
That's the kind of bold flavor they enjoy in Albuquerque!

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Re: reading of the names of the WTC victims

Post by Jim-2012 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:05 pm

VinnyD wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:55 pm
No. But I am bothered by willful stupidity.
Nothing reached the level of willful stupidity that the Deep State 9/11 cover story did.
Surely you realize that.
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