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Post by Jim-2012 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:10 pm

Polar wrote:I know what happened to he passengers. They were incinerated in the planes. But yo seem to think that there were no passengers. How do you defend that claim?
Until I hear rational evidence that supports the hijacking story, I don't believe it, so I don't have to answer questions about it; Those who believe and promote it should answer the questions.
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Post by polardude1 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:15 pm

So Jim, when you promote the idea that there were no planes you don't owe anyone an answer on the whereabouts of the passengers? Come on Jim, that's bullshit. You're claimm flies in the face of millions of witnesses and you purposely avoiding an explanation

What happened to the passengers?
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Post by Godjira » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:24 pm

There were no passengers or the passengers were executed by the government. Duh.
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Post by Jim-2012 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:32 pm

Where are the passengers on ANY non-existent flight?
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Post by Godjira » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:36 pm

That's right
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Post by Moethebartender » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:13 pm

Well, this doesn't seem to be working in YCerville, but figure it's worth a shot here:

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No facts.

Nothing he has posted is factual


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On this forum he replies to hardly anything, he refuses to join in anywhere else.



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Post by eric84 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:14 pm

Well, that's Polar and Jim so they're well matched.
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Post by andybox » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:33 pm

Jim-2012 wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:16 am
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Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:55 am
Jim, that 'Where Are the Passengers?' video lies straight off, when it says phone calls could not have been made.

I have a policy at stopping watching at the first lie.
I believe you are wrong about that. It was knowlegible experts who did the tests that determined that above several thousand feet, cell phones at that time could not operate.
So that begs the question, "From where were the cellphone calls made, if they couldn't have been made from 20 or 30,000 feet?"
The aircraft weren’t cruising along at 20-30k feet when hijacked, you idiot.
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Post by Moethebartender » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:36 pm

I realize that Jim is a crazy old man. He'll happily sit here debating the minutiae of this shit for another 13 pages with you fuckers, and it will probably be the most fun he's had in the last 40 years.

What the fuck excuse do the rest of you idiots have for indulging this shit? Morons.
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Moethebartender wrote:
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You might as well go into you utility cupboard and start a conversation with the mop, you’ll hear more sense.
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Moethebartender wrote:
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What the fuck excuse do the rest of you idiots have for indulging this shit? Morons.
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Jim-2012 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:32 pm

Where are the passengers on ANY non-existent flight?
Jim, where are they?
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09/25/2001 - Updated 12:52 PM ET

People killed in plane attacks

Lists of victims

Confirmed

Casualty totals
World Trade Center victims
List of those killed at Pentagon
List of missing from Pentagon
List of airline victims
Remembrances

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Partial lists of passengers and crew killed in Tuesday's terrorist attacks, according to family members, friends, co-workers and local law enforcement.

American Airlines Flight 11: A Boeing 767 en route from Boston to Los Angeles. The plane, carrying 81 passengers, nine flight attendants and two pilots, crashed into a tower of New York's World Trade Center about 8:45 a.m. ET.

Crew:

Barbara Arestegui, 38, Marstons Mills, Mass., flight attendant
Jeffrey Collman, 41, Novato, Calif., flight attendant
Sara Low, 28, Batesville, Ark., flight attendant
Karen Martin, 40, Danvers, Mass., flight attendant
Thomas McGuinness, 42, Portsmouth, N.H., first officer
Kathleen Nicosia, flight attendant
John Ogonowski, 52, Dracut, Mass., captain
Betty Ong, 45, Andover, Mass., flight attendant
Jean Roger, 24, Longmeadow, Mass., flight attendant
Dianne Snyder, 42, Westport, Mass., flight attendant
Madeline Sweeney, 35, Acton, Mass., flight attendant
Passengers:

Anna Williams Allison, 48, Stoneham, Mass., founder, A2 Software Solutions
David Angell, 54, Pasadena, Calif., executive producer, NBC's ''Frasier''
Lynn Angell, Pasadena, Calif.
Seima Aoyama
Myra Aronson, 52, Charlestown, Mass., press and analyst relations manager
Christine Barbuto, 32, Brookline, Mass., TJX Co.
Carolyn Beug, 48, Los Angeles, Calif.
Kelly Booms, 24, Boston, Mass., PricewaterhouseCoopers
Carol Bouchard, 43, Warwick, R.I., emergency room secretary, Kent County Hospital
Neilie Casey, 32, Wellesley, Mass., TJX Co.
Jeffrey Coombs, 42, Abington, Mass., security analyst, Compaq
Tara Creamer, 30, Worcester, Mass.
Thelma Cuccinello, 71, Wilmot, N.H.
Patrick Currivan
Brian Dale, 43, Warren, N.J.
David DiMeglio, Wakefield, Mass.
Donald Ditullio, 49, Peabody, Mass., Smith and Nephew
Albert Dominguez, 65, Sydney, Australia
Alex Filipov, 70, Concord, Mass., electrical engineer
Carol Flyzik, 40, Plaistow, N.H.
Paul Friedman
Karleton D.B. Fyfe, 31, Brookline, Mass., John Hancock
Peter Gay, 54, Tewksbury, Mass., plant manager, Raytheon Co.
Linda George, 27, Westboro, Mass., TJX Co.
Edmund Glazer, 41, Los Angeles, Calif., chief financial officer, MRV Communications
Lisa Fenn Gordenstein, 41, Needham, Mass., TJX Co.
Andrew Curry Green, 34, Los Angeles, Calif., director of business development, eLogic
Paige Farley Hackel, 46, Newton, Mass., spiritual counselor
Peter Hashem, 40, Tewksbury, Mass., salesman
Robert Hayes, 37, Amesbury, Mass., sales engineer, Netstal
Ted Hennessey, 35, Belmont, Mass., consultant
John Hofer
Cora Holland, 52, Sudbury, Mass., Sudbury Food Pantry at Our Lady of Fatima Church
Nicholas Humber, 60, Newton, Mass., owner, Brae Burn Management
John Jenkins, 45, Cambridge, Mass., corporate office services manager, Charles River Associates
Charles Jones, 48, Bedford, Mass., computer programmer
Robin Kaplan, 33, Westboro, Mass., TJX Co.
Barbara Keating, 72, Palm Springs, Calif.
David Kovalcin, 42, Hudson, N.H.
Judy Larocque, 50, Framingham, Mass., founder and CEO, Market Perspectives
N. Janis Lasden, 46, Peabody, Mass., General Electric
Daniel John Lee, 34, Los Angeles, Calif.
Daniel C. Lewin, 31, co-founder, Akamai Technologies
Susan MacKay, 44, Westford, Mass., TJX Co.
Chris Mello, 25, Boston, Mass., analyst
Jeff Mladenik, 43, Hinsdale, Ill., interim president, E-Logic
Antonio Montoya, 46, East Boston, Mass., housekeeping worker, Boston Harbor Hotel
Carlos Montoya
Laura Lee Morabito, 34, Framingham, Mass., national sales manager, Qantas Airways
Mildred Naiman, Andover, Mass.
Laurie Neira
Renee Newell, 37, Cranston, R.I., customer service agent, American Airlines
Jacqueline Norton, 60, Lubec, Maine, retiree
Robert Norton, 82, Lubec, Maine, retiree
Jane Orth, 49, Haverhill, Mass., retiree, Lucent Technologies
Thomas Pecorelli, 31, Los Angeles, Calif., cameraman, Fox Sports and E! Entertainment Television
Berry Berenson Perkins, 53, Wellfleet, Mass., actress and photographer
Sonia Morales Puopolo, 58, Dover, Mass., former ballet dancer
David Retik, Needham, Mass.
Philip Rosenzweig, Acton, Mass., executive, Sun Microsystems
Richard Ross, 58, Newton, Mass., Ross Group
Jessica Sachs, 22, Billerica, Mass., accountant, PricewaterhouseCoopers
Rahma Salie, 28, Boston, Mass.
Heather Smith, 30, Boston, Mass., Beacon Capital Partners
Douglas Stone, 54, Dover, N.H.
Xavier Suarez
Michael Theodoridis, 32, Boston, Mass., consultant
James Trentini, 65, Everett, Mass., retired teacher and assistant principal
Mary Trentini, 67, Everett, Mass., retired secretary
Pendyala Vamsikrishna, 30, Los Angeles, Calif., project manager for consulting firm, DTI
Mary Wahlstrom, 75, Kaysville, Utah
Kenneth Waldie, 46, Methuen, Mass., Raytheon Co.
John Wenckus, 46, Torrance, Calif., tax consultant
Candace Lee Williams, 20, Danbury, Conn., student
Christopher Zarba, 47, Hopkinton, Mass., software engineer, Concord Communications
United Airlines Flight 175: A Boeing 767 bound from Boston to Los Angeles. The plane was carrying 56 passengers, two pilots and seven flight attendants. It crashed into the other tower of the World Trade Center shortly after 9 a.m.

Crew:

Robert Fangman, 33, Claymont, Del., flight attendant
Michael Horrocks, 38, Glen Mills, Pa., first officer
Amy Jarret, 28, North Smithfield, R.I., flight attendant
Amy King, 29, Stafford Springs, Conn.,flight attendant
Kathryn LaBorie, flight attendant
Alfred Marchand, 44, Alamogordo, N.M., flight attendant
Victor J. Saracini, 51, Lower Makefield Township, Pa., captain
Michael Tarrou, 38, Stafford Springs, Conn., flight attendant
Alicia N. Titus, 28, San Francisco, flight attendant
Passengers:

Alona Avraham, 30, Ashdod, Israel
Garnet ''Ace'' Bailey, 53, Lynnfield, Mass., pro hockey scouting director, Los Angeles Kings
Mark Bavis, 31, West Newton, Mass., pro hockey scout, Los Angeles Kings
Graham Berkeley, 37, Wellesley, Mass.
Touri Bolourchi, 69, Beverly Hills, Calif.
Klaus Bothe, 31, chief of development, BCT Technology AG (Germany)
Daniel Brandhorst, 42, Los Angeles, Calif., lawyer, PricewaterhouseCoopers
David Brandhorst, 3, Los Angeles, Calif.
John Cahill, 56, Wellesley, Mass., senior executive, Xerox
Christoffer Carstanjen, 33, Turner Falls, Mass., computer research specialist, University of Massachusetts
John ''Jay'' Corcoran, 44, Norwell, Mass., merchant marine
Gloria de Barrera, 49, El Salvador, exporter
Dorothy Dearaujo, 82, Long Beach, Calif.
Lisa Frost, 22, Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif., sales and marketing associate
Ronald Gamboa, 33, Los Angeles, Calif., store manager, The Gap
Lynn Goodchild, 25, Attleboro, Mass., Putnam Investments
Francis Grogan, 76, Easton, Mass., priest, Holy Cross Church
Carl Hammond, 37, Boston, Mass.
Christine Hanson, 3, Groton, Mass.
Peter Hanson, 32, Groton, Mass., software salesman
Susan Hanson, 35, Groton, Mass., student
Gerald F. Hardacre, 62, Carlsbad, Calif.
Eric Hartono, 20, Boston, Mass.
James E. Hayden, 47, Westford, Mass., chief financial officer, Netegrity Inc.
Herbert Homer, 48, Milford, Mass., corporate executive, Raytheon Co.
Robert Jalbert, 61, Swampscott, Mass., salesman
Ralph Kershaw, 52, Manchester-by-the-Sea, Mass., marine surveyor
Heinrich Kimmig, 43, chairman, BCT Technology AG (Germany)
Brian Kinney, 29, Lowell, Mass., auditor, PricewaterhouseCoopers
Robert LeBlanc, 70, Lee, N.H., professor emeritus of geography, University of New Hampshire
Maclovio ''Joe'' Lopez Jr., 41, Norwalk, Calif.
Marianne MacFarlane, 34, Revere, Mass., customer service representative,
Louis Neil Mariani, 59, Derry, N.H.
Juliana Valentine McCourt, 4, New London, Conn.
Ruth McCourt, 45, New London, Conn., founder, Clifford Classique
Wolfgang Menzel, 60, personnel manager, BCT Technology AG (Germany)
Shawn Nassaney, 25, Pawtucket, R.I., American Power Conversion
Marie Pappalardo
Patrick Quigley, 40, Wellesley, Mass., partner, PricewaterhouseCoopers
Frederick Rimmele, Marblehead, Mass., physician
James M. Roux, 43, Portland, Maine, lawyer
Jesus Sanchez, 45, Hudson, Mass., off-duty flight attendant
Kathleen Shearer, Dover, N.H.
Robert Shearer, Dover, N.H.
Jane Simpkin, 35, Wayland, Mass.
Brian D. Sweeney, 38, Barnstable, Mass., business consultant
Timothy Ward, 38, San Diego, Calif., information technology project manager, Rubio's Restaurants
William Weems, 46, Marblehead, Mass., commercial producer
American Airlines Flight 77: A Boeing 757 en route from Dulles Airport near Washington to Los Angeles. The plane was carrying 58 passengers, four flight attendants and two pilots. It crashed into the Pentagon about 9:40 a.m.
Crew:

Charles Burlingame, 51, Va., captain
David Charlebois, Washington, D.C., first officer
Michele Heidenberger, 57, Chevy Chase, Md., flight attendant
Jennifer Lewis, 38, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
Kenneth Lewis, 49, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
Renee May, 39, Baltimore, flight attendant
Passengers:

Paul Ambrose, 32, physician
Yeneneh Betru, 35, Burbank, Calif., director of medical affairs, IPC
MJ Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, student, Leckie Elementary School (Washington)
Suzanne Calley, 42, San Martin, Calif., Cisco Systems Inc.
William E. Caswell, 54, Silver Spring, Md., physicist, U.S. Navy
Sarah Clark, 65, Columbia, Md., sixth-grade teacher, Backus Middle School (Washington)
Zandra Cooper, Annandale, Va.
Asia Cottom, 11, student, Backus Middle School (Washington)
James Debeuneure, 58, Upper Marlboro, Md., fifth-grade teacher, Ketcham Elementary School (Washington)
Rodney Dickens, 11, student, Ketcham Elementary School (Washington)
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz, 52, Springfield, Va., vice president for software development, EM Solutions Inc.
Barbara G. Edwards, 58, Las Vegas, Nev., teacher, Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, University Park, Md., research director, ECOlogic Corp.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, University Park, Md.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, University Park, Md.
James Joe Ferguson, 39, Washington, D.C., educational outreach director, National Geographic Society
Darlene ''Dee'' Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va.
Wilson ''Bud'' Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va., retired Navy Admiral and pilot, American Airlines
Richard P. Gabriel Sr., 54, Great Falls, Va., founder, Stratin Consulting
Ian Gray, 55, Washington, D.C., healthcare consulting firm president
Stanley Hall, 68, Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif.
Bryan Jack, 48, Alexandria, Va., senior executive, Defense Department
Steven D. ''Jake'' Jacoby, 43, Alexandria, Va., chief operating officer, Metrocall Inc.
Ann Judge, 49, Great Falls, Va., travel officer manager, National Geographic Society
Chandler Keller, 29, El Segundo, Calif., propulsion engineer, Boeing Co.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, Reston, Va., nonprofit organization manager,
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, lawyer, Wiley Rein & Fielding in Washington
Dong Lee, 48, Leesburg, Va., engineer, Boeing Co.
Dora Menchaca, 45, Santa Monica, Calif., associate director of clinical research for biotech firm
Christopher Newton, 38, Ashburn, Va., executive, WorkLife Benefits
Barbara Olson, 45, TV commentator and lawyer
Ruben Ornedo, 39, Los Angeles, Calif., propulsion engineer, Boeing Co.
Robert Penniger, 63, Poway, Calif., electrical engineer, BAE Systems
Robert R. Ploger III, 59, Annandale, Va., software architect, Lockheed Martin Corp.
Lisa J. Raines, 42, Great Falls, Va., senior vice president, Genzyme Corp.
Todd Reuben, 40, Potomac, Md., tax and business lawyer
John Sammartino, 37, Annandale, Va., technical manager, XonTech Inc.
Yang Shuyin, 61, Beijing, China
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper, 35, Santa Barbara, Calif., women's gymnastics coach, UC Santa Barbara
Robert Speisman, 47, Irvington, N.Y., diamond industry salesman
Norma Lang Steuerle, 54, Alexandria, Va.
Hilda Taylor, sixth grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington
Leonard Taylor, 44, Reston, Va., technical group manager, XonTech Inc.
Sandra Teague, 31, physical therapist, Georgetown University Hospital
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, University Park, Md., professor, Georgetown University
John Yamnicky, 71, Waldorf, Md.
Vicki Yancey, 44, Springfield, Va., Vredenburg
Zheng Yuguang, 65, Beijing, China
United Airlines Flight 93: A Boeing 757 en route from Newark, N.J., to San Francisco. The plane was carrying 37 passengers, two pilots and five flight attendants. It crashed southeast of Pittsburgh around 10 a.m ET Tuesday.
Crew:

Lorraine Bay, Hightstown, N.J., flight attendant
Sandra Bradshaw, 38, Greensboro, N.C., flight attendant
Jason Dahl, 43, Denver, captain
Wanda Green, 49, Linden, N.J., flight attendant
LeRoy Homer, 36, Marlton, N.J., first officer
CeeCee Lyles, Fort Myers, Fla., flight attendant
Deborah Welsh, 49, New York, N.Y., flight attendant
Passengers:

Christian Adams, 37, Biebelsheim, Germany, foreign sales manager, German Wine Fund
Todd Beamer, 32, of Cranbury, N.J., account manager, Oracle Corp.
Alan Beaven, 48, Oakland, Calif., environmental lawyer
Mark Bingham, 31, San Francisco, public relations firm owner
Deora Bodley, 20, Santa Clara, Calif., university student
Marion Britton, 53, assistant regional director, U.S. Census Bureau
Thomas E. Burnett Jr., 38, San Ramon, Calif., senior executive of medical research company
William Cashman
Georgine Rose Corrigan, antiques and collectibles dealer
Joseph Deluca
Patrick Driscoll
Edward Felt, 41, Matawan, N.J.
Colleen Fraser, 51, Elizabeth, N.J., chairwoman, New Jersey Developmental Disabilities Council
Andrew Garcia, 62, Portola Valley, Calif.
Jeremy Glick, 31, West Milford, N.J.
Kristin Gould
Lauren Grandcolas, 38, San Rafael, Calif., sales worker, Good Housekeeping magazine
Donald F. Greene, 52, Greenwich, Conn.
Linda Gronlund, 46, Warwick, N. Y., environmental compliance, BMW
Richard Guadagno, 38, Eureka, Calif., Humboldt Bay National Wildlife Refuge manager, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
Toshiya Kuge, 20, Tokyo, Japan, student
Hilda Marcin, 79, Budd Lake, N.J., retired teacher's aide
Waleska Martinez, 37, automation specialist, U.S. Census Bureau
Nicole Miller, 21, San Jose, student, West Valley College
Louis J. Nacke, 42, New Hope, Pa., distribution center director, Key-Bee Toys
Donald A. Peterson, 66, Spring Lake, N.J., retired president, Continental Electric Co.
Jean Hoadley Peterson, 55, Spring Lake, N.J.
Mark Rothenberg, Scotch Plains, N.J., owner, MDR Global Resources
Christine Snyder, 32, Kailua, Hawaii, arborist, Outdoor Circle
John Talignani, 72, Staten Island, N.Y., retired restaurant worker
Honor Elizabeth Wainio, 27, Watchung, N.J., district manager, Discovery Channel store
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Post by Jim-2012 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:12 am

Polar, have any people on your lists been verified by a DNA check as being deceased?
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Jim, has your mother been verified by a DNA test as being deceased?
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Polar, have any people on your lists been verified by a DNA check as being deceased?
Jim. Another nice trick. Those people boarded those flights and were incinerated. There are a lot of children who lost heir mothers and fathers that dy.Perhaps you can contact them and tell therm that those passengers don' t exist.
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Jim, has your mother been verified by a DNA test as being deceased?
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Post by Jim-2012 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:13 pm

andybox wrote:The aircraft weren’t cruising along at 20-30k feet when hijacked, you idiot.
You may want to revise that statement after you watch this video.
Starting at around 5:00, the issue of phone calls is discussed:

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Post by polardude1 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:20 pm

Jim, thhat's a stupid rerun. Those passengers ha birth certificates and death certificates. Please don't claim that there were fabricated. Many soldiers are incinerated in the corse of batter with nothing of the remaining or the the remains are just not found. Does it mean that they do not exist becasue there is no "DNA evidence"

You made a claim. Back it up. Jim, where are the passengers?
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Polar wrote:You made a claim. Back it up. Jim, where are the passengers?
I never claimed airliners were hijacked on 9/11.
It is the obligation of those who claim airliners were hijacked on 9/11, to prove it with evidence.
So far none has been provided by the Deep State.
You may take their word for it, but many thinking people around the world do not accept it without proof.
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Jim, where are the passengers?
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Post by Flobster! » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:31 pm

What proof do you have that all the people you claim died in the towers, did die in the towers, Jim?
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Flobster! wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:31 pm
What proof do you have that all the people you claim died in the towers, did die in the towers, Jim?
Here again we are relying on what we are being told by our rulers and the media about the count of victims in the WTC, but the figure of 3000 given by the media and the government sounds credible because of the number of known employees at the WTC.
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Post by polardude1 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:43 pm

There are death certificates. Were they fabricated. Did insurance companies pay out fraudulent claims on deaths that didn't occur? Are the families of te airline passengers in on eh conspiracy as well?

There is no DNA evidence for al the claims of the Holocaust. Is it a conspiracy by the deep state
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Post by Flobster! » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:45 pm

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What proof do you have that all the people you claim died in the towers, did die in the towers, Jim?
Here again we are relying on what we are being told by our rulers and the media about the count of victims in the WTC, but the figure of 3000 given by the media and the government sounds credible because of the number of known employees at the WTC.
The number of dead passengers seems credible because we have the airline's logs.
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Flobster! wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:45 pm
Jim-2012 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:38 pm
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What proof do you have that all the people you claim died in the towers, did die in the towers, Jim?
Here again we are relying on what we are being told by our rulers and the media about the count of victims in the WTC, but the figure of 3000 given by the media and the government sounds credible because of the number of known employees at the WTC.
The number of dead passengers seems credible because we have the airline's logs.
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Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The plans detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.[2] The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.
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Post by polardude1 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:04 pm

Jim, where are the passengers?
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Post by Flobster! » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:05 pm

Yes, what does Northwoods have to do with the passengers?

The number of people who would have to have been involved in this conspiracy is staggeringly large.
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Re: reading of the names of the WTC victims

Post by Jim-2012 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:11 pm

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Yes, what does Northwoods have to do with the passengers?

The number of people who would have to have been involved in this conspiracy is staggeringly large.
The number of people involved in Operation Northwoods, had it been carried out, would have also been staggeringly large.
Thankfully, JFK rejected the operation, and we know what happened to him; GWBush was no JFK.
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Post by Flobster! » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:21 pm

Yes, indeed, it would have been large. And it would have leaked.

But I doubt that it would have been anywhere near as large as your 9/11 conspiracy would need.
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Post by polardude1 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:36 pm

Jim, where are the passengers?
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Post by Jim-2012 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:48 pm

This Major General knows airplanes:

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Post by DianaHaddad » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:55 pm

If only there were people around that day who could tell us if planes actually hit or not. Oh well.
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Post by Jim-2012 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:59 pm

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If only there were people around that day who could tell us if planes actually hit or not. Oh well.
Sorry, Diana, but evidence is more reliable than eyewitness reports.
This has been proven time & time again.
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Post by DianaHaddad » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:09 pm

That's true with details like "He was tall" or "His shirt was green". You'll have to find me proof of a time where someone claims to have seen a plane hit a building and was wrong.

I'll even let you expand that to a plane hitting anything at all.
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Post by Jim-2012 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:35 pm

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That's true with details like "He was tall" or "His shirt was green". You'll have to find me proof of a time where someone claims to have seen a plane hit a building and was wrong.

I'll even let you expand that to a plane hitting anything at all.
There has been no precedence for an airliner hitting a skyscraper causing the mass destruction of over 100 stories in 10 seconds without the use of explosives and thermite.
Major General Stubblebine has said it couldn't happen as it was officially described.
In the linked video, he hasn't said that it was probably a missile, but in other videos he implied as much, and he knows more about airliners than I know. If it was a missile, it could have been disguised as an airliner; I'm sure the Deep State has the technology to do that.
But even if missiles hit the 2 WTC towers, I believe that explosives & thermite had been previously, in the months before 9/11, been placed in the WTC buildings.
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Post by andybox » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:40 pm

It didn’t cause the destruction of 100 stories in 10 seconds. Think about what you wrote then get back to me.
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Post by Godjira » Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:46 pm

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Post by VinnyD » Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:02 am

It's simole. Ted Olsen, who was part of the Deep State, wanted his wife dead. I am a little fuzzy on the details, e.g. how she died when there were no planes, but that is clearly what is at the root of the whole thing.

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Post by korgy » Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:07 am

Jim, still waiting to find out if your mother been verified by a DNA test as being deceased.

thanks in advance
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Post by Flobster! » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:00 am

Jim, WHY would they disguise a missile as a plane? If they wanted to cause a gigantic news story (which is your theory, basically) crashing a passenger plane into the Pentagon would have been completely sufficient.

In fact I'd say that crashing a passenger plane into the Pentagon would be a MORE effective false flag than using a missile.
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Post by Jim-2012 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:25 am

Flobster! wrote:
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Jim, WHY would they disguise a missile as a plane? If they wanted to cause a gigantic news story (which is your theory, basically) crashing a passenger plane into the Pentagon would have been completely sufficient.

In fact I'd say that crashing a passenger plane into the Pentagon would be a MORE effective false flag than using a missile.
Flobster, to actually have an airliner hit a WTC building (or the Pentagon) even with an experienced airline pilot steering it would be next to impossible; with inexperiened muslim hijackers at the wheel, it would be totally impossible. To think hijackers could succeed in hitting 3 targets is the most ludicrous idea of the 21st century.

Targeting structures with guided missiles has been succeeding for decades. It doesn't have the risk of failure that a hijacked airliner would have.
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Post by polardude1 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:36 am

Sorry, Diana, but evidence is more reliable than eyewitness reports.
This has been proven time & time again.
not eye witness reports of thousands of commuters .

Where are the passengers?
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Post by korgy » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:18 am

Jim-2012 wrote:
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Polar, have any people on your lists been verified by a DNA check as being deceased?
Jim, i'm still waiting for you to answer if your mother has been verified by a DNA test as being deceased.

why won't you answer?
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Post by equus » Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:45 am

Specifically, the planes that posters on this very thread actually saw. The planes that contained some of the victims that you yourself included in the "almost 3000" tally you mentioned in this thread. The planes that were scheduled and actually departed from real airports, carrying victims who are mourned by hundreds if not thousands of people.

Your theory, that there were no planes, says the ground staff at the airports, the mourners, the airlines, and witnesses on this thread, are all liars.
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Re: reading of the names of the WTC victims

Post by equus » Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:49 am

Jim-2012 wrote:
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I believe that explosives & thermite had been previously, in the months before 9/11, been placed in the WTC buildings.
And nobody noticed.

Have you any idea at all what the prep for a controlled demolition looks like? Have you, yet, looked at any non-conspiracy theory sites, to see how massive this task is, and what it does to the inside of the building?

Prepping for controlled demolition is not a case of popping a few bombs behind the photocopiers or in cleaners' closets.

Please, Kim, at least research this one.
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Post by Godjira » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:01 am

It was nanothermite!! I could have been carried into the WTC is a shoe box!
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Post by Flobster! » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:08 am

Flobster, to actually have an airliner hit a WTC building (or the Pentagon) even with an experienced airline pilot steering it would be next to impossible
That's utter nonsense.

I agree that hitting the Pentagon took some skill, but two gigantic buildings standing much higher than any other nearby building would be next to impossible for an experienced pilot to hit?
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Re: reading of the names of the WTC victims

Post by Usher73 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:31 am

Jim, I am willing to believe that you believe that the truth is more horrible than the facts.

But I can't believe that you believe that truth is false.

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