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The climate hasn't warmed since 1998

Post by equus » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:46 am

Why haven't we seen a thread like this for ages?
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Post by guruwil » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:55 am

Dammit, you are going to have Lost Mind and Smoker here in a Sec and they will drool all over this thread.
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Post by equus » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:57 am

I'll sure they'll wipe up afterwards.
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Post by Lost Soul » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:07 am

I guarantee the BBC (or the NY Times, Washington Compost, CNN, yada) didn't break this story.
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Post by FUUZ » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:11 am

is this 'item' true?
What about the record heat that has been reported?
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FUUZ wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:11 am
is this 'item' true?
What about the record heat that has been reported?
Heat is always reported. It helps that the NOAA faked all the record heat from the 30s, by lowering those actual temperatures, so that they could report record heat 70 years later.

Same/same for Greenland melting. What is never reported is the trillion tons of unmelted snow on Greenland in the last three years.
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Post by Nines » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:22 am

It must suck to be on an icebound ship while on a mission to prove global warming.

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I saw ice on the ocean therefore AGW is fake.

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Post by rider5 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:27 am

Are you doing this for the lolz, equus?

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Post by dBrother » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:03 am

Lost Soul wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:16 am
FUUZ wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:11 am
is this 'item' true?
What about the record heat that has been reported?
Heat is always reported. It helps that the NOAA faked all the record heat from the 30s, by lowering those actual temperatures, so that they could report record heat 70 years later
Really gotta give em credit for playing the long game in this though, multi generational conspirists are really dedicated to what they do..
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Post by jedgarandclyde » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:07 am

Yeah, wildfires in the North of Sweden sure do sound like 'Fake News' to me.
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Post by birdlite » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:09 am

Nines wrote:It must suck to be on an icebound ship while on a mission to prove global warming.
Not if you understand the difference between weather and climate.

But being icebound is not the current news.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccar ... fographic/
Arctic ports along the Northern Sea Route have experienced a surge in cargo, according to an interview from the Russian Ministry for Maritime and River Transport on website PortNews. In total, 9.95 million tons were transported to and from ports in the region compared to just 5.5 million tons last year.  The passage is only feasible for about three months of the year but global warming is making it increasingly viable for major seaborne freight companies.  This year, temperatures in the Arctic Circle have been unusually warm, with the mercury hitting 30C on some occasions.
new trade route for energy supplies is opening up north of the Arctic Circle as some of the warmest temperatures on record shrink ice caps that used to lock ships out of the area.

This year is likely to rank among the top 10 for the amount of sea ice melting in the Arctic Ocean after heat waves across the northern hemisphere this summer. While that’s alarming to environmentalists concerned about global warming, ship owners carrying liquefied natural gas and other goods see it as an opportunity. Their cargoes have traversed the region for the first time this year without icebreakers, shaving days off shipping times and unlocking supplies from difficult-to-reach fields in Siberia.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:47 am

Didn’t I report those people kayaking to the North Pole to raise “awareness”?

They had to be rescued 700 miles short of their target because of some solid, cold, bluey-white substance that obstructed their path.
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Post by equus » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:58 pm

See! Even Po has given up on this claim!
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Two buoys off the coast of San Diego last week recorded what researchers believe could be the highest temperature ever measured in California waters.

A sea-surface temperature of 81.3 degrees was logged Thursday by both the Torrey Pines buoy (7.3 miles offshore) and the neighboring Scripps Nearshore buoy (.7 miles from the coast). The buoys are two of 25 managed by Scripps Institution of Oceanography in California.

"We've been measuring water temperature with our wave buoys since the 1990s, and this is the warmest we've seen in those two-plus decades," says James Behrens, the principal engineer for Scripps Coastal Data Information Program, who helps check the buoys for quality control.

Daniel Swain, a climate scientist at UCLA, calls the reading "extraordinary, and Miguel Miller, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service office in San Diego called it "remarkable."
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guruwil wrote:
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Dammit, you are going to have Lost Mind and Smoker here in a Sec and they will drool all over this thread.
Why are you referring to me? I have never claimed global warming didn't exist.

What I have said is the world's climate is always changing and in fact has been flipping back and forth from sauna conditions to a snowball for thousands to millions of years. In fact the last 10,000 years has been generally speaking fairly warm even with the recent European mini iceage & the medieval warm period.

What hasn't been proven with the scientific method producing a Scientific theory that makes accurate climate predictions is that mankind is responsble for the recent post WWII global warming.

Also what I did say that due to speculation and conjecture on my part if I had to guess what is most responsible for climate change on Earth I would bet on 99.6% of the mass of the solar system verses the little old human race ie put your money on that huge ball of nuclear explosions up in the sky.

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Post by thegreenlantern » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:54 pm

I would bet on 99.6% of the mass of the solar system verses the little old human race
By a similar weighting technique I'd put my money on 99.6% of climate scientists before little old Smoker's "common sense".

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:01 am

In the same way I’d support 99.6% of scientists involved in the promotion and production of nuclear power.
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thegreenlantern wrote:
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I would bet on 99.6% of the mass of the solar system verses the little old human race
By a similar weighting technique I'd put my money on 99.6% of climate scientists before little old Smoker's "common sense".
smoker is a financial genius, but on the subject of climatology his credentials are up there with nines, argo and me..
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Argonheart_Po wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:01 am
In the same way I’d support 99.6% of scientists involved in the promotion and production of nuclear power.
I'm very pro-nuke.

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Argonheart_Po wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:01 am
In the same way I’d support 99.6% of scientists involved in the promotion and production of nuclear power.
What’s that supposed to mean?
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guruwil wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:19 am
Argonheart_Po wrote:
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In the same way I’d support 99.6% of scientists involved in the promotion and production of nuclear power.
What’s that supposed to mean?
*context*

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Post by guruwil » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:21 am

Nope
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It snowed today.
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sodelicious wrote:
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It snowed today.
That happens. Enjoy it.
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Well it turns out we are 0.6 C (~1 F) cooler than we were in 1998.

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13 month average?
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Godjira wrote:
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13 month average?
You read very well. You should feel pride.
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Lost Soul wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:45 am
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13 month average?
You read very well. You should feel pride.
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No net warming trend in the Arctic over the last 80 years.
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Lost Soul wrote:Well it turns out we are 0.6 C (~1 F) cooler than we were in 1998.

Only the Paris Treaty to tax the US will save the Children. Please tell Al and Maobama and every other socialist. Thanks.


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In a wider context, not so much.
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Argonheart_Po wrote:No net warming trend in the Arctic over the last 80 years.
even a school boy could point out the temp delta variance pre 1960 is much higher therefore less accurate if you take 1960 onwards the trend is up.
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within our little time period the trend is up as is atmospheric co2 levels. the correlation and causation post industrial revolution is pretty much universally agreed by scientists.
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How about the surface temperature of the Arctic Ocean?
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Godjira wrote:How about the surface temperature of the Arctic Ocean?
get your thermometer out
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mad hatter wrote:
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within our little time period the trend is up as is atmospheric co2 levels. the correlation and causation post industrial revolution is pretty much universally agreed by scientists.
Why listen to people such as David Attenborough, and the natives in Northern Greenland about how their environment has suddenly changed over the current generation's lifetime....

...when you can call on the expert knowledge of Lost Soul and Niner.

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fuck science
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mad hatter wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:49 am
Argonheart_Po wrote:No net warming trend in the Arctic over the last 80 years.
even a school boy could point out the temp delta variance pre 1960 is much higher therefore less accurate if you take 1960 onwards the trend is up.
True.

But what explains the pre 60s warm period?

As for the rest:

Is the world warming slightly? Yes
Is it a good idea to invest in renewable energy? Yes
If you think global warming is a real problem should you be campaigning for investment in nuclear energy? Yes
Is it a good idea to take carbon out of the ground and put it in the atmosphere? In the short term - yes. In the long term - no.
Has global warming been politicised by those who want redistribute wealth? Yes
Have global warming advocates catastrophised so often and by so much that it is reasonable to doubt their veracity and even their honesty? Yes
Has the oil industry downplayed it’s part? Yes
Are the IPCC reports trustworthy? No
Will humans be able to adapt to global warming? Yes
If the West cripples it’s economies will China and India do the same? No
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Interesting read: https://www.iceagenow.com/CIA-Ice_age_t ... ations.htm
How about a few sentences from you outlining what the article puts forward if you're up to it?

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Post by equus » Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:32 am

Nice to see Poo finally approaching reality. There's still some way to go but it's progress.
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dBrother wrote:
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Lost Soul wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:16 am
FUUZ wrote:
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is this 'item' true?
What about the record heat that has been reported?
Heat is always reported. It helps that the NOAA faked all the record heat from the 30s, by lowering those actual temperatures, so that they could report record heat 70 years later
Really gotta give em credit for playing the long game in this though, multi generational conspirists are really dedicated to what they do..
When you destroy temperature data for the cause, it is not multi-generational. It's a one-off.

And the assholes at NOAA have destroyed 42% of our long term thermometer data, all in lieu of a fictional, leftardic view of science (redundant).
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:24 am

Global warming believers should start by beginning to tell the truth and ceasing their climate fear bullshit.

Climate catastrophe appeals backfire. Here’s why:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10 ... 18.1520735
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You think climate fear campaigns work?

Wrong. They don’t.
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Post by Godjira » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:21 am

Sure they do, they work all the time.

DDT, CFCs, Freon, recycling, leaded gas, you name it.

You know that most people won't do anything inconvenient unless you light a fire under their can.
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DDT?

I hope you can save me from it, googoo.
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