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Post by DCComic » Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:26 pm

Boris is a dick, but maybe this is clever of him. Is this the sweet-spot where reacting against his remark is as daft as the remark itself?
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Post by The Mallard Missie » Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:43 pm

I wondered when someone would post this.

I think he has a point - they do look fucking grotesque, though whether he should have written it or not is an entirely different matter. Interestingly his constituency must have a large number of Muslims; certainly a large Asian population.
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Post by SeamusMcCool » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:01 pm

I thought they look more like Daleks.
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Post by The Mallard Missie » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:13 pm

But it generally tends to be the men not the women who exterminate. Though not always.
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But it generally tends to be the men not the women who exterminate. Though not always.
There are M and F Daleks?
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Post by brodie_bruce » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:18 pm

I certainly didn't think AngryPoo was going to be post this as not even he can twist this one to be Jeremy Corbyn's fault.
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Boris is a dick, but maybe this is clever of him. Is this the sweet-spot where reacting against his remark is as daft as the remark itself?
Oh, he's a dick indeed but he's a cunning dick - everything that mop headed twat does calculated to benefit him in some way so there's no reason to think this latest comment is any different.

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DCComic wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:16 pm
The Mallard Missie wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:13 pm
But it generally tends to be the men not the women who exterminate. Though not always.
There are M and F Daleks?
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Boris should stop looking like an unmade bed.
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DCComic wrote:
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Boris is a dick, but maybe this is clever of him. Is this the sweet-spot where reacting against his remark is as daft as the remark itself?
I agree.

He knows that outside of the media/politics bubble almost everyone agrees with him. The reaction is the whole point.

And of course, people should be able to wear what they like.
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Argonheart_Po wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:12 pm
DCComic wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:26 pm
Boris is a dick, but maybe this is clever of him. Is this the sweet-spot where reacting against his remark is as daft as the remark itself?
I agree.

He knows that outside of the media/politics bubble almost everyone agrees with him. The reaction is the whole point.

And of course, people should be able to wear what they like.
Muslims in the Tory party agree with him?
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That they look like letterboxes?

Probably. But I don’t know. Ask their next leader - Sajid Javid.
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Post by jedgarandclyde » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:20 pm

I do think it is sorta clever of Boris to make such a stupid statement, he needs a few more votes before he can take on Ms May for the leadership of the Torries, and i do feel that he thinks this might be the way to get a couple.
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“And of course, people should be able to wear what they like.”
I doubt the majority of women dressed this way are wearing what they like. Quite the opposite.
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andybox wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:17 am
“And of course, people should be able to wear what they like.”
I doubt the majority of women dressed this way are wearing what they like. Quite the opposite.
How would you know that?
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eric84 wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:20 am
andybox wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:17 am
“And of course, people should be able to wear what they like.”
I doubt the majority of women dressed this way are wearing what they like. Quite the opposite.
How would you know that?
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Post by eric84 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:29 am

We’re talking about the United Kingdom here. Somewhat different
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Post by guruwil » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:48 am

From my understanding Boris was saying that people should have the right to wear them if they want, but they look pretty silly. I can’t say I disagree on either point, I also think clown pants look pretty silly but go ahead if you like them. Same for many items of clothing that are either silly looking or impractical.
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eric84 wrote:
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We’re talking about the United Kingdom here. Somewhat different
haha - that told you.
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Post by k2w3 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:13 am

Exactly guru. I look silly in speedos but I enjoy them. I wouldn't wear them though if some retarded religion said it was mandatory.
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k2w3 wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:12 am
eric84 wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:29 am
We’re talking about the United Kingdom here. Somewhat different
haha - that told you.
Yes, it’s a democratic country where women have right and gender equality is a priority.
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So there'd be zero FGM's and honour-killings and other stone-age customs going on in the UK. Phew, that's great.
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Argonheart_Po wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:18 pm
That they look like letterboxes?

Probably. But I don’t know. Ask their next leader - Sajid Javid.
IMO this was a dummy run on Sajid- seeing what parameters the Tory grassroots will stand for in the battle to come. Not the full tommy gun drive by, more an air rifle.

Why else is Boris writing about Danish domestic policy?

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So there'd be zero FGM's and honour-killings and other stone-age customs going on in the UK. Phew, that's great.
Those are against the law there, right?
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andybox wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:17 am
“And of course, people should be able to wear what they like.”
I doubt the majority of women dressed this way are wearing what they like. Quite the opposite.
I agree with that too.
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Wellpisser wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:30 am
Argonheart_Po wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:18 pm
That they look like letterboxes?

Probably. But I don’t know. Ask their next leader - Sajid Javid.
IMO this was a dummy run on Sajid- seeing what parameters the Tory grassroots will stand for in the battle to come. Not the full tommy gun drive by, more an air rifle.

Why else is Boris writing about Danish domestic policy?
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eric84 wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:29 am
We’re talking about the United Kingdom here. Somewhat different
We are not talking about the UK- the article was about Denmark banning the burka. The question as to why a British MP with leadership ambitions should be writing about the way Muslim women may or may not dress in Denmark is of course interesting but the subject is ostensibly Denmark.

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k2w3 wrote:
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So there'd be zero FGM's and honour-killings and other stone-age customs going on in the UK. Phew, that's great.
We have loads as you know and the benefit of having a Muslim as Home Secretary is that all of these things are going to be investigated without the usual shrieks of so-called “Islamophobia”

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Sajid Javid isn’t Muslim. “The only religion practiced in my house is Christianity”, his words.

There are Muslim Conservative MPs, you don’t have to invent them.

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eric84 wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:20 am
andybox wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:17 am
“And of course, people should be able to wear what they like.”
I doubt the majority of women dressed this way are wearing what they like. Quite the opposite.
How would you know that?
Oh stop being so naive, you silly missie: no woman in their right mind would choose to wear absurd outfits like that. They are either forced to do so or believe that some non-existent personage flew to heaven on a winged horse, blah, blah, blah.

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A modest woman could say that women are brainwashed into wearing ridiculous outfits by the fashion industry and western standards of beauty.

Different groups conform to different standards, but they still conform.
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DCComic wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:26 pm
Boris is a dick, but maybe this is clever of him. Is this the sweet-spot where reacting against his remark is as daft as the remark itself?
Yes. Boris is becoming the new 'man of the people'. There are many many people out there who'll see him being picked on for thinking what they do.
I imagine more than 95% of people dislike the burka. And I'm including some muslims in that.

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It's after his meeting with Bannon that he has taken this rather Trumpian tack.
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Post by Chi_Rup » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:39 am

Och, there’s nothing Trumpian about glib support of freedom of expression wrapped up in a bit of gentle saloon bar bigotry. He’s been doing that for years.

I’m sure we can all agree that of any hot topic Boris might have an opinion on, burqas was the one nobody cares about. It’s feelgood politics for the wankers he needs to sustain his post-government career.

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Would those wankers be the 95% leela refers to above?
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From The Guardian today:
My guess is that Johnson didn’t give much prior thought to the jokey remarks he made in the Telegraph this week about Muslim women’s clothing. But I think he gave a lot of thought to standing by them once more sensible Tories than he belatedly woke up to the damage they were doing to the party’s image. That silence spoke volumes. And it’s that decision – the decision to dig in as the man who will not be gagged by political correctness – that is the important take-away from this week’s row.
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eric84 wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:29 am
We’re talking about the United Kingdom here. Somewhat different
Worse.
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DCComic wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:58 am
A modest woman could say that women are brainwashed into wearing ridiculous outfits by the fashion industry and western standards of beauty.

Different groups conform to different standards, but they still conform.
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Chi_Rup wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:54 am
Sajid Javid isn’t Muslim. “The only religion practiced in my house is Christianity”, his words.

There are Muslim Conservative MPs, you don’t have to invent them.
Sajid Javid is a Muslim. He is just not a practising one. The only religion practiced in my house (very loosely) is Christianity (Lutheran) because I am lapsed in the faith into which i was born, however that does not change my confessional identity.

Although he clearly likes a beer and probably sneaks the odd bacon sarnie Sajid Javid self identifies as a Muslim - he took the oath of office swearing on the Koran, it really is not for some white guy to tell a Muslim if he is a Muslim or not. that is between him, possibly his Mullah and Allan. I know several Muslims like that but they would all describe themselves on a census form as Muslims.

Weren't you one of those who called Javid an "Uncle Tom"?
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Argonheart_Po wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:49 am
Wellpisser wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:30 am
Argonheart_Po wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:18 pm
That they look like letterboxes?

Probably. But I don’t know. Ask their next leader - Sajid Javid.
IMO this was a dummy run on Sajid- seeing what parameters the Tory grassroots will stand for in the battle to come. Not the full tommy gun drive by, more an air rifle.

Why else is Boris writing about Danish domestic policy?
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On the subject pf letterboxes, I have never seen a red burka

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Wellpisser wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:46 am
Chi_Rup wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:54 am
Sajid Javid isn’t Muslim. “The only religion practiced in my house is Christianity”, his words.

There are Muslim Conservative MPs, you don’t have to invent them.
Sajid Javid is a Muslim. He is just not a practising one. The only religion practiced in my house (very loosely) is Christianity (Lutheran) because I am lapsed in the faith into which i was born, however that does not change my confessional identity.

Weren't you one of those who called Javid an "Uncle Tom"?
That’s the second time you’ve falsely accused me of that, but you’ve never been shy of dumping a lazy identity politics turd on a thread.

I wouldn’t assume that you can speak for any religion based on the colour of your skin, but you just did. That’s fucked up.

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Post by eric84 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:15 am

leela wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:16 am
DCComic wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:26 pm
Boris is a dick, but maybe this is clever of him. Is this the sweet-spot where reacting against his remark is as daft as the remark itself?
Yes. Boris is becoming the new 'man of the people'. There are many many people out there who'll see him being picked on for thinking what they do.
I imagine more than 95% of people dislike the burka. And I'm including some muslims in that.

He's learned from Trump, and it's going really well for him.
It’s possible to not like the burka and also realizing banning it is counterproductive.
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Post by leela » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:19 am

Exactly. I dislike the burkha, but it's none of my business what other people choose to wear, and I agree that banning it would be counter-productive. But that's not what this is about.

It's about the dog whistle signalling to the prejudiced, that he's 'one of them'. And making those calling for him to apologise, demonstrate to those same people that they're not.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:22 am

Yes.

Sort of.

So why do they take the bait?
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Argie demonstrating his selective outrage with prejudicial comments against a religious minority. He doesn’t have principles, he has sides.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:02 am

You support the burka. You think a good woman is “a modest woman”. You think women wear burkas by choice.

I don’t.
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Re: Muslim women wearing the burka "look like letter boxes".

Post by LonelyTeaPot » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:30 am

In this case, Boris is one of the 95% I think, or rather hope. There's nothing wrong with a burka ban, of course, but that's another matter.

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Re: Muslim women wearing the burka "look like letter boxes".

Post by eric84 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:50 pm

Argonheart_Po wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:02 am
You support the burka. You think a good woman is “a modest woman”. You think women wear burkas by choice.

I don’t.
Nope. But it’s pointless to ban and inconsistent with liberal democracy.
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Re: Muslim women wearing the burka "look like letter boxes".

Post by flojin » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:20 pm

DCComic wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:58 am
A modest woman could say that women are brainwashed into wearing ridiculous outfits by the fashion industry and western standards of beauty.

Different groups conform to different standards, but they still conform.
Except that nobody tells women in the West that God will send them to hell or that the family honor demands they have their faces splashed with acid for non-conformity.
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