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It's a shame how they are holding back Real Americans, who had the good judgment to have been born here.
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Post by steveogolf » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:40 pm

Quite a contrast with the "other" infamous Nigerians who are on their computers in Lagos and actively engaged in their scam attempts at separating Americans from their money.
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What will we call their privilege?

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vanceen wrote:
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What will we call their privilege?
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vanceen wrote:
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What will we call their privilege?
They'll have to be reclassified as Asian for Harvard admissions.
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Post by korgy » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:09 pm

i think it's a ridiculous survey though-- obviously, the Nigerians who come to the US are highly educated and already have a bit of cash. unlike other ethnic groups.

these kinds of stories can do real damage to the truth

Nigerians with no money who are fleeing political,personal or ethnic violence are not walking across the border to the US
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strife wrote:
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What do you think about these apples?
Well that was interesting; as an aside when I lived in the UK in the early to mid 1990s I was told the most successful demographic in grade school & high school (is it middle school there?) was ethnic Caribbean girls.

And no one knew why but one of the greatest failures in school during the same period was ethnic Caribbean boys. So weird, the sisters are doing fantastic in school while their brothers are spinning out.

The heartbreaker was the ethnic Caribbean girls didn't have widespread followthrough academic success since many of them didn't go to university because they started getting pregant in the their last couple years of high school.

What a dilemma for a teacher with no obvious solution. You have this group where first there is increadible academic success and then it fades away in the last couple years of high school.

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Post by Godjira » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:30 pm

vanceen wrote:What will we call their privilege?
You don’t think that a group can be successful and well educated and also experience racism?
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You mean like white people?
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Post by Godjira » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:36 pm

Well, yes- Jews and Indians are generally white and comparatively wealthy

https://www.google.co.jp/amp/www.pewres ... s/%3famp=1

There’s no denying these two groups have been targets of racism.
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Post by VinnyD » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:12 pm

People interested in the lives of Nigerian-Americans might like the novel Americanah by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie. I know I did, and I didn't have a particular interest.

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Post by korgy » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:45 am

Godjira, like Nigerians, a disproportionate number of Indians who come to the US are already highly educated and come from comfortable families.

this kind of survey can do real damage by creating misleading stereotypes.
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Post by Godjira » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:53 am

The point is that racism does not always manifest itself financially.

in other words, money isn't everything!
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Post by VinceFoster » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:00 am

Broad brush strokes can always do damage by creating misleading stereotypes.

I've seen evolved members of this very forum declare that any white guy that isn't thriving (because advantages) must be a fucking loser.
Never mind the fact that most people in the US are one medical situation away from virtual bankruptcy.

But that's OK. Most presidents and CEOs are white males, so if you're a poor white male, fuck you.
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Post by korgy » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:29 am

VinceFoster wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:00 am
Broad brush strokes can always do damage by creating misleading stereotypes.
i agree, but this is not about a broad brush stroke -- it is about a very specific type of paintbrush that only makes one unusual kind of brushstroke.

the title OP suggests that some ethnic group or nationalities do better in the the US than others. we have no way of knowing that because the immigrants coming to the US from different parts of the world have different levels of education and different socioeconomic backgrounds when they arrive.

most people from El Salvador to the US i am guessing do not have higher education or come from middle-class or upper-class families (by US standards). i am guessing many, if not most, Indians coming to the US do come from those backgrounds. probably Nigerians do also.
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VinceFoster wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:00 am
Broad brush strokes can always do damage by creating misleading stereotypes.

I've seen evolved members of this very forum declare that any white guy that isn't thriving (because advantages) must be a fucking loser.
Never mind the fact that most people in the US are one medical situation away from virtual bankruptcy.

But that's OK. Most presidents and CEOs are white males, so if you're a poor white male, fuck you.
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Post by kotagiri_tea_planter » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:34 am

this news is old enough to have appeared in the NYTimes style section 15 years ago

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Post by strife » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:59 am

korgy wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:29 am

most people from El Salvador to the US i am guessing do not have higher education or come from middle-class or upper-class families (by US standards). i am guessing many, if not most, Indians coming to the US do come from those backgrounds. probably Nigerians do also.
That's true, and I admit this thread was a bit of a windup. Salvadorans and Nigerians tend to enter the US in very different ways. For the same reason, Mexicans you meet in the US and France tend to be from very different socioeconomic strata of Mexican society.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:28 pm

Is it Scandinavian immigrants to Minnesota?

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Post by twodogs » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:33 pm

First generation immigrants to the US always seem to do well no matter the race of nationality. It may be because they are better motivated having witnessed hunger and poverty.

A generation or two later that motivation is often replaced by something for nothing socialist dreams.
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