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Die Trumpverstehern

Post by strife » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:30 pm

Excellent article from the Atlantic on the collaborators. They find Trump distasteful, but believe Clinton was worse. (In fairness, I believe the inverse. I would've held my nose during a Clinton inauguration, but still think that Trump is worse. [Preemptive fqov, the VinnyD poster.] Ultimately, it's these quiet collaborators and not the vocal varmintry who will benefit from his administration.

Meet the Trumpverstehers
We know about the president’s most vocal supporters. But what about his more discreet following?

A few years ago, the Germans created one of the compound nouns in which their language excels. The Russlandverstehers—literally, “Russia understanders”—were those who while not openly supporting Vladimir Putin’s seizure of Crimea expressed sympathetic acceptance of it. They would never openly endorse the stealing of elections or the assassination of journalists, of course, but they understood the circumstances that lead to such unfortunate things, and the larger impulse to rough behavior to restore Russian national pride and enhance Russian prestige.

I propose the term Trumpverstehers in a similar spirit. These are not the mass of his supporters who fear the loss of jobs to global trade or automation; they are not the rural white Americans who feel threatened by immigration, ravaged by the opioid epidemic, and treated contemptuously by a bicoastal elite. In fact, by background, income, and employment, they are actually members of that elite.

I have some archetypical individuals in mind—a few eminent scholars, some former senior officials (both political appointees and career civil servants), several wealthy businessmen. They are the products of excellent colleges and universities, and in most cases hold advanced degrees. All of them are well off; none fears losing their job to a Chinese robot or a Honduran border crosser; they may gnash their teeth at The Washington Post or The New York Times but trust them more than they do Breitbart. They are not bigots, racists, misogynists, or homophobes.

Most of them are partly closeted Trumpverstehers. That is, they are judicious about to whom and how they divulge their views. But they have said enough to me that I can reconstruct their arguments for being more hostile to President Donald Trump’s critics than to him; for being unwilling to criticize him more than faintly, if at all; and in some cases, for taking an unabashedly positive view of some of his accomplishments.


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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... rs/564743/
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Post by strife » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:35 pm

Closing graph:

There is, however, one thing I do not comprehend about the Trumpverstehers. I do not understand how the cries of an infant torn from its immigrant mother’s arms now fail to rend the hearts of people who, in other settings, I once knew to be upright, generous, and kind.
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Post by dBrother » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:04 am

strife wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:35 pm
Closing graph:

There is, however, one thing I do not comprehend about the Trumpverstehers. I do not understand how the cries of an infant torn from its immigrant mother’s arms now fail to rend the hearts of people who, in other settings, I once knew to be upright, generous, and kind.
most countries have immigration laws that get enforced, trump was merely catching up with the rest of the first world on this count.
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Re: Die Trumpverstehern

Post by cowtown » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:48 pm

That article is just providing cover for Republicans pretending they are better than Trump but have still fallen in line behind him. His conclusion that they are not conservative ideas should be followed up with they are Republican ideals and that’s the bitch. I offer them no sympathy, they too are guilty.

it’s really a rather sloppy op-ed piece that lost me quickly with the buildup of political back grounds as presented with regards to Obama and Hillary. They are Trumpism conceits that he is pushing as fact. To separate the two is dishonest and attempts to legitimize the very core of Trumpism

I was hoping for something about liberal elites benefiting from the tax break, which only occurs in a red state or some akin but no

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Re: Die Trumpverstehern

Post by strife » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:55 pm

It's more explanatory than apologetic. I have no more sympathy for the collaborators than you do.
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Re: Die Trumpverstehern

Post by cowtown » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:04 pm

I reject the premise and the compromise, those are their values, Trump values. It’s a dance of distinctions
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Re: Die Trumpverstehern

Post by eric84 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:25 pm

Key players on the modern right decided to cave of Trumpiedoodle and abondon the #neverTrump movement because it would effectively mean the end of their career in DC thinktank world.
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Re: Die Trumpverstehern

Post by mad hatter » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:27 pm

Is this just a 'clever' beltway attempt at godwinning?
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