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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:26 am

.. funnier.
Feminist Apparel CEO Fires Entire Staff After They Learn He's An Admitted Sexual Abuser

The employees of the popular clothing company Feminist Apparel thought they were creating tools for the resistance. The online store’s viral shirts and accessories — which feature sayings like “Cats against catcalls” and “Trans rights are human rights” — became staples at events like the Women’s March and Pride. The brand amassed over 360k followers on Instagram and Facebook and was behind viral moments like the “No Catcall Zone” signs that took over NYC. Plus every item sold helped support an independent artist, and in many cases, a partnering organization that would receive part of the proceeds.

It all came to a grinding halt in June of 2018 when Feminist Apparel staff discovered that the brand’s founder and CEO Alan Martofel had an admitted history of sexually abusing women. In fact, he claims it’s the reason why he started the company in the first place. After asking for his resignation, all nine employees were fired without notice or severance. (Only Martfel and an outside consultant remained.)

“This is the patriarchy and toxic masculinity at its fucking finest,” says Rebecca Green, the company’s now-former art director. “I feel righteous and angry. I feel supported by my coworkers and friends. I also feel tired. I feel incredibly sorry knowing that there are survivors in this office who were led to believe that their contributions to this company were directly going to creating a safe space and platform for survivors, feminists, and marginalized identities. As an artist myself creating work based on my own experiences with the patriarchy, toxic masculinity, and harassment for this company — and by extension this man — I feel used and willfully mislead.”

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Post by OnTheBall » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:58 am

Hilarious.

Rebecca Green sounds like someone I would love to get to know and have as a friend.

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Post by Flobster! » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:25 am

Poo, even for you this one is a shocker. The only humour in this is that a creep (and possibly a criminal) lied to some women. I know that a lot of your views are tacitly misogynist, but this is just naked.
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Post by mishmish » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:51 am

Po is more interested in the idea of 'feminist apparel', which is admittedly funny although harmless, than an alleged mysoginist creep running wild.

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Post by strife » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:37 am

Arsonfart finds sexual abuse funny, if it hurts the Modern Left.

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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:45 am

I consider anyone who doesn’t find this funny a po-faced twit and a potential neo-Puritan.
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Post by strife » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:56 am

Yes, but you're into rape jokes, and get all hissy and maudlin when anyone makes fun of your Lord and Leader Donald Trump. To be considered a Puritan by a misanthropic hermit in the Outback, well, it lacks sting.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:57 am

By the way - It doesn't seem to me he was ever a predator, just a sort of normal guy from a certain class (the idiot catcall class) who had a feminist epiphany and followed up on it. But in feminism, you are never ever forgiven for past sins just because you repent, and certainly not the original sin of being male.

Now this guy probably does not identify as a feminist ally anymore, you humourless twits managed to do some public pearl clutching and the feminists are all out of jobs. Well done lefties - stay special.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:59 am

I feel good about myself everyday.

It could be, of course, that this guy is a player - than would be even more amusing.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:02 pm

Just a theory - do progressive women hate men because of their previous dealings with progressive men?
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Post by Godjira » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:02 pm

Do I detect a hint of jealousy?
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Post by eric84 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:03 pm

Argonheart_Po wrote:
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I feel good about myself everyday.

It could be, of course, that this guy is a player - than would be even more amusing.
You’re not being less horrible, are you? What would your family think on your internet beliefs I wonder?
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:04 pm

No. On one side the progressive women have to deal with dishonest weaklings who fight their own nature, one the other, the progressive men have to cope with irrational angry shrews.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:05 pm

eric84 wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:03 pm
Argonheart_Po wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:59 am
I feel good about myself everyday.

It could be, of course, that this guy is a player - than would be even more amusing.
You’re not being less horrible, are you? What would your family think on your internet beliefs I wonder?
They’d think it funny. But they’re not caught up in the insane bullshit of the modern-left.

I’ll tell them if you like and report back.
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Post by Argonheart_Po » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:06 pm

Argonheart_Po wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:04 pm
No. On one side the progressive women have to deal with dishonest weaklings who fight their own nature, one the other, the progressive men have to cope with irrational angry shrews.
Or irrational angry blue haired tattooed she-mammoths.
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Post by BeatRaven » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:09 pm

That someone espousing feminism should be held to a higher moral standard is not reality. Shitstains gonna shitstain.

Is there a woman on earth who would pay $5 more for something with Feminist on the label?

The Feminist book store in NYC was one of the first to go out of biz in the face of the new book superstores. They believed that their community would stay with them and pay 20% more to support them. The gay bookstore held out 2 more additional years.

Po, for laughs, google Male Feminist. Most of the first page is about what useless twats they are -a lot of it is from women. It's the Groucho complex applied to men.

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Post by eric84 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:10 pm

Argonheart_Po wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:05 pm
eric84 wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:03 pm
Argonheart_Po wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:59 am
I feel good about myself everyday.

It could be, of course, that this guy is a player - than would be even more amusing.
You’re not being less horrible, are you? What would your family think on your internet beliefs I wonder?
They’d think it funny. But they’re not caught up in the insane bullshit of the modern-left.

I’ll tell them if you like and report back.
I doubt they revel in other people’s misfortune. You may have lost perspective going down the modern right rabbit hole. You even forgot to be less horrible
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Post by Godjira » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:12 pm

Well, like Donald Trump with his orange skin and bizarre plastic surgery on his hair/scalp, one of them may be your king one day.
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Post by BeatRaven » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:13 pm

Eric, have you shared your own controversial history on the internet with your loved ones?

Me? Totally.

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Post by eric84 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:17 pm

BeatRaven wrote:
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Eric, have you shared your own controversial history on the internet with your loved ones?

Me? Totally.
My views aren’t any different in real life so wouldn’t be embarrassed by what I post here
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Post by Flobster! » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:19 pm

Argonheart_Po wrote:
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Just a theory - do progressive women hate men because of their previous dealings with progressive men?
No, you fool. They "hate" men because for example 5 or 6 women have been murdered by men in Australia over the past week or so.

Ignorant old fucks like yourself belittling the response to rape and murder could well make them hate you, though.
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Post by BeatRaven » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:20 pm

Do you think Po is any diff in real life? He is not.

His wife resembled the actress Minnie Driver -have I ever mentioned that?

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Post by eric84 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:23 pm

BeatRaven wrote:
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Do you think Po is any diff in real life? He is not.

His wife resembled the actress Minnie Driver -have I ever mentioned that?
He’s kinda gone down the modern right parody as this thread attests
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Do you think Po is any diff in real life? He is not.
His offline communication is dedicated to proving how horrible people are?
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Post by BeatRaven » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:26 pm

Yeah, pretty much. He's just a snarky funny guy. Like he is here.

Annotated's another one. I don't get the hate.

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Post by eric84 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:30 pm

He’s not a funny snarky guy here.
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Yeah, pretty much. He's just a snarky funny guy. Like he is here.

Annotated's another one. I don't get the hate.
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Post by BeatRaven » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:38 pm

More a dedication to the belief that everyone is full of shit. Since everyone agrees, that's hardly contrarian.

I was just reading about Amazon banning baby onesies with a burning cross on them, actually, a burning swaztika cross. How is that diff. from banning the burka? The belief that stopping crazy people from wearing crazy outfits will somehow stop their craziness is crazy.

I wish I heard such views from liberal people, but they like to defend some crazy people but not others.

Which is crazy. So Po or Annotated pointing out various entertaining craziness is fine by me.

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Post by eric84 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:40 pm

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More a dedication to the belief that everyone is full of shit. Since everyone agrees, that's hardly contrarian.

I was just reading about Amazon banning baby onesies with a burning cross on them, actually, a burning swaztika cross. How is that diff. from banning the burka? The belief that stopping crazy people from wearing crazy outfits will somehow stop their craziness is crazy.

I wish I heard such views from liberal people, but they like to defend some crazy people but not others.

Which is crazy. So Po or Annotated pointing out various entertaining craziness is fine by me.
Amazon has the power to ban t-shirts and it’s just like banning burkas? There’s a hot take.
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I was just reading about Amazon banning baby onesies with a burning cross on them, actually, a burning swaztika cross. How is that diff. from banning the burka?
Are you saying that baby clothes with burning swastikas on them are basically the SAME as burkas?
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Post by BeatRaven » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:49 pm

This is a decades long entertaining diff between us: you think people can be molded by media or wearing outfits, I think personality is immutable.

Flobster is another one. He worries that porn is making men do bad things. It's a widespread opinion that to me is just fantastical. I'm grateful to be exposed to it.

This is at the root of my argument against the liberal trope of things you don't like being "normalized". I say consensus may change, but no outside force can normalize anything. It's a squishy but serious sounding bit of nonsense that AmJoe used to argue that gays were normalizing pedophilia. Just throw normalization out. It doesn't exist and can be easily used against your most cherished liberal views -which I doubtlessly share.

Short version: You worry about normalization a lot and I flat out never do.

If someone wants to wear a swastika tee shirt over their burka, I'm good with that.

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Post by Godjira » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:54 pm

Well, I don't know if Amazon should be selling swastika t-shirts
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Post by DCComic » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:59 pm

You sidestepped.

A burka is an introverted 'leave me alone, don't even look at me'. If people want to hide they should be left alone, not hounded.
Nazi themed baby-clothes are aggressive 'fuck-you's to the world. If Amazon doesn't want to distribute them why force them to?

But you're right, I'm certain people are directed by their environments and circumstances. There is a nature/nurture argument but few completely deny the existence of nurture.
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I sort of settled on the old line liberal feel good Free Speech for Nazi's vibe of the early 70's and haven't given it a lot of thought since.

But a baby in a swaztika onesie -is making him wear a GreenPeace onesie really going to turn his life around? Eric thinks so. Me? No. Is making a burka fan wear a dress going to move the modernity needle much? Leave these dopes like you found 'em.

So I'll stop sidestepping now. A nazi tee shirt is a direct provocation in a way a burqa is not. Provocation is not illegal. If some Daily Mirror mad mulluh says that islamic clothing must be worn to confront the white devil, then provocation-wise, it's in the same ball park.

Better to say all provocations are equal instead of gerrymandering reasons why they are not.

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Just a theory - do progressive women hate men because of their previous dealings with progressive men?
Could be. Look at who has been outed in the MeToo movement. It's running about 95 to 5 for the lefty male.
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A nazi tee shirt is a direct provocation in a way a burqa is not. Provocation is not illegal. If some Daily Mirror mad mulluh says that islamic clothing must be worn to confront the white devil, then provocation-wise, it's in the same ball park.
Nobody is banning the Nazi baby grow. Amazon don't want to supply it. They should not be compelled to.
Compelling somebody to wear a burka IS in the same ballpark, but your comparison was with banning it.
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If you're 100% fine when they ban something that you support with the same measured equanimity, we're good. But my 100% experience with liberal people is that this reasonability gets turned on and off like a tap.

But I don't think that bad symbols or bad beliefs lead to bad actions. If your car breaks down in front of a house with a confederate flag, those people are going to help you, more so then the average person. Even if you're a little on the beige side.

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Flobster is another one. He worries that porn is making men do bad things. It's a widespread opinion that to me is just fantastical. I'm grateful to be exposed to it.
Wot? I don't think I've expressed an opinion on porn.

But if you want one, here goes: all porn that I've ever seen has been far too simplistic (not to mention tacky) to take seriously. It would be great if artists started making porn worth watching but afaik it just doesn't happen.
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If you're 100% fine when they ban something that you support with the same measured equanimity, we're good. But my 100% experience with liberal people is that this reasonability gets turned on and off like a tap.

But I don't think that bad symbols or bad beliefs lead to bad actions. If your car breaks down in front of a house with a confederate flag, those people are going to help you, more so then the average person. Even if you're a little on the beige side.

It's like we all travelled the world here and ended up more hidebound.
I'm not 100% fine with banning either, but Amazon are entitled to choose not to sell things.

Symbols advertise beliefs.
Advertising works.
Beliefs lead to actions.
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Post by BeatRaven » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:30 pm

I recall Flobster worrying that porn incites violence. For me, it incites fast forwarding.

But Porn has reached a level of availability/saturation that Nazi-ism can only dream of. A child can watch thousands of hours of scat play not long after emerging from that life phase himself. How has that shaped our eros?

Hardly at all. Shaved pussies; end of. Those even better than advertised beliefs haven't changed hardly any actions.

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The availability and use of pornography has become almost ubiquitous among adults and adolescents. Consumption of pornography is associated with many negative emotional, psychological, and physical health outcomes. These include increased rates of depression, anxiety, acting out and violent behavior, younger age of sexual debut, sexual promiscuity, increased risk of teen pregnancy, and a distorted view of relationships between men and women. For adults, pornography results in an increased likelihood of divorce which is also harmful to children. The American College of Pediatricians urges healthcare professionals to communicate the risks of pornography use to patients and their families and to offer resources both to protect children from viewing pornography and to treat individuals suffering from its negative effects.
There is evidence that society’s acceptance of pornography creates unique problems for women. The use of pornography can result in violent and sexually aggressive attitudes towards women. Men who consume pornography are more likely to adopt rape myth ideology, which is that women cause rape or actually enjoy rape or sexual assault.21,22 There is strong evidence that exposure to violent pornography is associated with sexually aggressive behaviors in both adolescent23 and adult males.24
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If you're 100% fine when they ban something that you support with the same measured equanimity, we're good. But my 100% experience with liberal people is that this reasonability gets turned on and off like a tap.

But I don't think that bad symbols or bad beliefs lead to bad actions. If your car breaks down in front of a house with a confederate flag, those people are going to help you, more so then the average person. Even if you're a little on the beige side.

It's like we all travelled the world here and ended up more hidebound.
Banning a burka is not the same as banning a shirt on amazon. Does this really have to explained to you?

If I were black, I don't think I would necessarily take my chances with a confederate flag house.
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Post by BeatRaven » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:42 pm

Eric, have you ever been in a house where a confederate flag was displayed? Have you ever had a conversation of any kind with a southerner not named Lavite?

It's more fluid down there. The Black guy from Hootie and the Blowfish has the Duck Dynasty homophobes in his music video:

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Post by eric84 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:50 pm

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Eric, have you ever been in a house where a confederate flag was displayed? Have you ever had a conversation of any kind with a southerner not named Lavite?

It's more fluid down there. The Black guy from Hootie and the Blowfish has the Duck Dynasty homophobes in his music video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvKyBcCDOB4

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Er, not so fluid anymore. Taking the confederate flag out of state flags kinda wrecked the moment where southern racists could argue it was about heritage. You may be out of the loop there, btrav.
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Re: Not The Onion..

Post by BeatRaven » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:02 pm

Yeah, we don't disagree with taking down the stars and bars from public buildings.

We disagree that everyone wearing it on a tee shirt is a threat or even your enemy.

Hootie back in the day would not play campus's where it flew. And for Hootie they took them down. 20+ years ago. His audience is still 90% redneck.

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Re: Not The Onion..

Post by eric84 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:07 pm

BeatRaven wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:02 pm
Yeah, we don't disagree with taking down the stars and bars from public buildings.

We disagree that everyone wearing it on a tee shirt is a threat or even your enemy.

Hootie back in the day would not play campus's where it flew. And for Hootie they took them down. 20+ years ago. His audience is still 90% redneck.
When a Republican Governor of South Carolina takes down the confederate flags, the jig is up of tshirt wearers about it all means, notwithstanding your 20 year old story about good old boys and Hootie.
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Re: Not The Onion..

Post by korgy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:33 pm

mishmish wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:51 am
Po is more interested in the idea of 'feminist apparel', which is admittedly funny although harmless, than an alleged mysoginist creep running wild.
exactly, he loves the idea of an admitted creep being able to fire feminists. make him all warm and fuzzy
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Re: Not The Onion..

Post by korgy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:35 pm

Argonheart_Po wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:45 am
I consider anyone who doesn’t find this funny a po-faced twit and a potential neo-Puritan.
a neo-Puritan is someone who doesnt think creepy sexual predation is funny? what a creep
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Re: Not The Onion..

Post by Godjira » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:35 pm

Or, maybe a neo-Puritan is someone who thinks all people are equal?
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