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Re: Boris Johnson Resigns

Post by harry_flashman » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:24 am

But as we all know, it's bollocks. It must be embarrassing for you - this whole Brexit nonsense -
Are you talking about the concept or the mess that the loathsome David Cameroon bequeathed to Teresa May? I think she has done well to muddle through this far. It would be interesting to know what qualifies a barista to comment given his willful ignorance of the profound problems facing the European Union.
Ireland is a strong and independent nation!
Ireland is a vassal state which is what is has been largely throughout its entire history.
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Re: Boris Johnson Resigns

Post by The Mallard Missie » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:30 am

Vessel or vassal, low class ladyboy-fucker?
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Re: Boris Johnson Resigns

Post by LonelyTeaPot » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:34 am

What are those profound problems - immigration, economy and the eurozone, overregulation? Yes, most sensible people acknowledge these issues and we will find a way to deal with them because we have to. But breaking out of the union is not part of the solution, any country trying to do so will only find the subsequent problems even more profound.

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Re: Boris Johnson Resigns

Post by Iolar » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:44 am

Argonheart_Po wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:06 am
Ireland is a strong and independent nation!
You know, your posts are the internet equivalent of pulling one's trousers down in a restaurant and shitting on the table. Anything for attention.

Look at me! Please look at me! The first time that you shit yourself, it was amusing. It's tiresome now.

You're boring.
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Re: Boris Johnson Resigns

Post by Kilombo » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:11 pm

LonelyTeaPot wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:34 am
What are those profound problems - immigration, economy and the eurozone, overregulation? Yes, most sensible people acknowledge these issues and we will find a way to deal with them because we have to. But breaking out of the union is not part of the solution, any country trying to do so will only find the subsequent problems even more profound.
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Re: Boris Johnson Resigns

Post by Kilombo » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:12 pm

Iolar wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:44 am
Argonheart_Po wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:06 am
Ireland is a strong and independent nation!
You know, your posts are the internet equivalent of pulling one's trousers down in a restaurant and shitting on the table. Anything for attention.

Look at me! Please look at me! The first time that you shit yourself, it was amusing. It's tiresome now.

You're boring.
Well Ireland might not be strong but it is independent, at least on the papers or is this so difficult to catch for the British "Empire"?
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Post by simon_in_exile » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:24 pm

Meanwhile...
BORIS Johnson and David Davis have confirmed that they quit the cabinet to go backpacking around South East Asia together.

The former Brexit minister and foreign secretary announced that they had been planning the trip for ages and just could not wait to get to the full moon raves on the beaches of Thailand.

Johnson said: “Just a couple of lads, Bojo and Double D, that’s what we’ll tell the ladyboys our names are.

“I mean, ladies. Definitely ladies and not ladyboys.”

Davis said: “We’re hoping to make it down to Indonesia to at some point and maybe take some magic mushrooms.

“Then when we’re high as a kite on the funky fungus, we’ll sit down and come up with our own Brexit plan.

“It’ll most likely just be drawings of geckos with lasers shooting out of their eyes, so pretty similar to what we’ve got on the table already.”
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Post by BulletPark » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:29 pm

Iolar wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:44 am
Argonheart_Po wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:06 am
Ireland is a strong and independent nation!
You know, your posts are the internet equivalent of pulling one's trousers down in a restaurant and shitting on the table. Anything for attention.

Look at me! Please look at me! The first time that you shit yourself, it was amusing. It's tiresome now.

You're boring.

You have to feel sorry for him Iolar. He's a White Ifrican and was chased out his homeland by the blicks. Now he huddles in Australia, a stateless refugee. To him Staten Island is a strong and independent nation.

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Re: Boris Johnson Resigns

Post by Flora » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:32 pm

Well. My thoughts on this one...

He is a fucking disgrace, should never have held the office. BUT I get why May did it - and I get why she couldn't sack him. He's behaved atrociously throughout his tenure, hopefully badly enough to put people (public and fellow MPs) off him as a political figure. Right down to his resignation where he made it a photocall, a few hours after a woman had been killed on British soil by Russia. Just about sums him up.

Meanwhile the replacement is also a shitbag. Skin as thick as a rhino's.

In terms of the future, even if they go for a vote of no confidence, she's got every chance of winning it. I think the numbers are in her favour in parliament. If it goes to a leadership contest, it'll go to the party, who are Brexit Hard McBrexit, and we'd all be fucked. Boyfriend has agreed that if this happens, and Mogg is our PM, we're out of here ASAP. He barely believes in rights for women, I'm not bringing a daughter up with him at the helm.

Also though, parliament don't have the numbers to agree to a hard Brexit. Not even Tory party MPs. I think.

Now I've had a chilled out weekend I am beginning to find it all quite entertaining.

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Post by Chi_Rup » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:56 pm

Everyone read his resignation letter? It’s kind of mental. I’ll see if I can find a link to quote.

He starts by talking about the British people being let down by promises HE MADE, drifts into an anecdote about bus accidents that is NOT TRUE and altogether comes across as a crazy person mumbling into his pint.

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Post by brodie_bruce » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:08 pm

Flora wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:32 pm
Boyfriend has agreed that if this happens, and Mogg is our PM, we're out of here ASAP. He barely believes in rights for women, I'm not bringing a daughter up with him at the helm.
I've made the mistake of reading the comments on Telegraph articles on both Facebook and Twitter and it's slightly terrifying the people calling for the Honourable Member for the 18th Century to step in. Not least as they'd be amongst the first to be back in the workhouses.

I really can't stand the cunt.
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Re: Boris Johnson Resigns

Post by Flora » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:11 pm

One of my colleagues has parents who are dead posh. He says that they 'all' love Rees-Mogg. He doesn't believe in equality of women. The end.

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Re: Boris Johnson Resigns

Post by Iolar » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:27 pm

Ress-Mogg is a conservative Catholic. There's no way that the DUP will support a government with a Catholic at the helm and certainly not a conservative one. Never going to happen. They don't even like sharing a room with cultural Catholics.
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Post by Stephen_Dedalus » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:30 pm

Which is odd as they share pretty much all the same views.

DUP and Conservative catholicism

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Post by Iolar » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:37 pm

I'd say that the DUP and those Free Presbyterians are far more conservative than any Catholics. Well, any Catholics here, but we mostly have self-hating Catholics and cultural Catholics.
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Re: Boris Johnson Resigns

Post by CatScanMan » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:38 pm

Aren't we jumping the gun a bit with Rees Mogg for PM.

May isn't sunk quite yet.

Let's hope her soft Brexit plan works. All of the rules but none of the influence still beats hard Brexit.

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Post by Flora » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:55 pm

Yes, I hope it's jumping the gun. I think May will hang on in there - like I said above, I don't think the others have got the numbers to do anything else at the moment. When she went to the 22 after her Friday summit thingy, they did lots of applause and table-banging, which suggests they think it's OK. Gove is still her mate too - so far anyway - he didn't say anything stupid about possible options before the summit like Johnson and Davis did, and he's a major shit stirrer. If he's on her side at the moment, she'll probably be OK.

I wonder if when Hunt refused to go back when she had her reshuffle, the FCO job was part of his bargaining tool. They knew that Johnson would either resign or be sacked at some point, so he'd hang on in there for that job. He's a successful minister, even if he's hideous and not doing anything in the country's favour. Clearly he's done something 'right' from the Tory pov over the NHS.

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Post by Chi_Rup » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:12 am

NY Times:
Boris Johnson Has Ruined Britain

LONDON — For the second time in three years, Boris Johnson, a politician whose ambition and superficial charm far outstrip his ability, judgment or principles, is destabilizing the British government and threatening the country’s future.

On Monday, Mr. Johnson, in protest against Prime Minister Theresa May’s plans for Brexit, resigned from his post as foreign secretary. Now Mrs. May’s authority, longevity and ability to deliver a Brexit without causing an economic crisis are in question. But further political paralysis seems certain.

Britain is in this mess principally because the Brexiteers — led largely by Mr. Johnson — sold the country a series of lies in the lead up to the June 2016 referendum on leaving the European Union. They did so because neither Mr. Johnson nor his fellow leader of the Leave campaign, Michael Gove, intended, wanted or expected to win.

At the start of 2016, Mr. Johnson was perhaps the most popular politician in Britain. Supporters and fans mobbed him at train stations and traffic lights; pollsters and pundits thought he could reach the parts of the country that other Conservatives could never touch. But he was also driven and insecure, so desperate to guarantee he would be the next prime minister that he cynically abandoned his own previous positions on the European Union in order to try to secure support from his party’s Euroskeptic right wing.

Because Mr. Johnson and Mr. Gove were confident that the Leave campaign was a hopeless cause, they were free to make ridiculous claims that they had no expectation of ever having to fulfill. They said that Brexit would make Britain both richer and more independent, with more money for the National Health Service, much greater control of immigration and continued friction-free trade with Europe.
Every earnest warning from the other side — about how any Brexit would damage trade, business and jobs — was dismissed airily by the Brexiteers. There were no costs or downsides in this vision of the future.

This casual dishonesty has had devastating consequences.

In the two years since the Leave campaign unexpectedly won, nobody, from the prime minister to Mr. Johnson to the Labour Party, has been able to come up with a plan for exiting the European Union that can satisfy both a majority in Parliament and the expectant public. Why? Because fulfilling the false promises peddled by Mr. Johnson during the campaign is impossible.

The gulf between the easy, prosperous, productive Brexit that its voters are impatiently expecting, and the grim, complicated cost of disentangling economies that have been intertwined for decades has poisoned and paralyzed British politics.

The Conservatives’ leaders cannot admit to the electorate that they were deceived without splitting the party. And instead of apologizing for misleading voters, Mr. Johnson and the other Brexiteers have doubled down, taking refuge in optimistic slogans and vapid promises, refusing to believe the increasingly agitated evidence from hospitals, airlines, farmers, supermarkets and factories that a hard Brexit will damage them all.
Last week, Mrs. May finally attempted to force a recognition of reality on her divided cabinet by coming up with a compromise; a partial Brexit that allows goods free access in and out of Europe at the cost of accepting many European rules. It was an imperfect plan, but still it provided, finally, a starting point for negotiations with Brussels.

For three days, that compromise held, until the first political delusionist, the Brexit Secretary David Davis, broke free, still claiming that in some magical future Britain could get almost everything it wanted, if only the country would just stand by its demands.
Petrified of being outflanked, Mr. Johnson followed suit, bringing with him the implicit threat that he could lead a rebellion against the government that other hard-line Brexiteers will follow. It is a desperate move by a man who has lost almost all the credibility he had three years ago.

All of Mr. Johnson’s weaknesses have been exposed: his lazy reluctance to do detail, his preference for bluster over thinking, his contempt for business. The campaign was meant to secure his future; instead, in damaging the country, he fears he has wrecked his own future, too. As one of his allies told me last month: “He knows that the verdict of history is about to come down on him — and bury him.”

Mr. Johnson seems to believe that this is his last chance to become prime minister: After his resignation this week, he hopes to be reborn as a rebel who will lead the party. But more likely is that he will once again create political chaos without delivering what he wants.

Two years ago, the side effect of Mr. Johnson’s ambitious maneuvering was to split the country and risk the prosperity and security of all Britons for decades. Now, just as a fragile basis for negotiation emerges, his selfish drive for vindication, attention and admiration threatens that, too.
It is petrifying that the deliberate deceptions and wild ego of one man can so mislead a nation. (Americans know all about that.) One insider told me that Mrs. May was prepared for Mr. Johnson’s defection, and will outflank him, persuading wavering Conservatives that the time for fantasy has passed.

But Britain is teetering on the edge, on the verge of making catastrophic, irreversibly damaging mistakes. The danger is that Johnson might tip the balance in the wrong direction once again.
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Post by DCComic » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:21 am

Johnson was self evidently a self serving buffoon from the start. Anything that turns to shit is on the people who voted for it.
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Post by Flobster! » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:25 am

So Cameron and Johnson are pariahs. Is there anyone else from that Bullingdon photo still in politics?
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Post by Chi_Rup » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:15 am

Now that the enemy is all wobbly in the legs we need shunter back.

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Post by The Mallard Missie » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:24 am

Chi_Rup wrote:
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Now that the enemy is all wobbly in the legs we need shunter back.
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Re: Boris Johnson Resigns

Post by Vodd » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:25 am

A snowball's chance in hell of Reet Mong becoming leader.
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