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Post by harry_flashman » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:59 am

You didn't seem to care much when your beloved kneegrow was pulling the trigger.

Do yourself a favour and learn when to shut up guido.
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Post by Godjira » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:03 am

Obama was poisoning British citizens in the US?

Putin’s getting a pass from you because he’s white.
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Post by harry_flashman » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:08 am

We don’t know that Putin was behind these attack’s but even if he was there is no reason to target the Russian people

We do know that your favourite kneegrow has given the all clear to any of number extrajudicial illicit killings

Who are the varmints now?

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Post by Godjira » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:22 am

Oh sure. Someone whipped up nerve gas in their kitchen.

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Post by harry_flashman » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:25 am

harry_flashman wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:59 am

Do yourself a favour and learn when to shut up guido.
Well said that man
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Post by Godjira » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:26 am

harry_flashman wrote:I’ll take Putin’s cock unlubed
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Post by Smoker » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:21 pm

Smoker wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:09 am
Agree, there is no compelling for America to have bases in either Japan or Guam so shut them all down and bring the troops home so you can spend the money in the USA on whatever you wish from universal healthcare to education to whatever.
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There’s no compelling reason? LOL.
Ok Godjira after the total human/material/treasure/emotional etc cost to the American people of Vietnam, Iraqi, Afghanistan & whatever conflict just WHAT IS YOUR COMPELLING REASON? to not close down the overseas US military bases and bring those young Americans home and let the rich prosperious countries on the other side of the world be responsible for their own defense and participation in their local regional/tribal/religious conflict?

And try to make it a better reason that it is Trump that is advocating isolationism rather than your person.

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Re: Will Europe Stand Up if America Stands Down?

Post by Smoker » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:28 pm

Wellpisser wrote:
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To me the Amerigun view would be very simple.
Yurp has a larger population than AmeriKKKa.
Western Yurp has better welfare provision than AmeriKKKa.
The Yurpeen NATO economy is larger than AmeriKKKas…………….And in a post ideological world what is in it for the USA- that is the question that I would ask if I were an Amerigun.
A similar comparison can be made between North and South Korea.

Can you think of any compelling reason for thousands of young American military personnel to be stationed permanently on the DMZ?

Is there any complelling reason that rich prosperious and "higher population than the North" South Korean shouldn't be responsible for it's own defense and putting it's own young solders at risk on the DMZ verses young Americans?

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Post by Godjira » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:30 pm

Let’s start small. Look up “compelling” in the dictionary.
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Godjira wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:30 pm
Let’s start small. Look up “compelling” in the dictionary.
No rather than you playing dodgeball lets not waste time pretending you have an answer verses you just answering.
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There’s no compelling reason? LOL.
Ok Godjira after the total human/material/treasure/emotional etc cost to the American people of Vietnam, Iraqi, Afghanistan & whatever conflict just WHAT IS YOUR COMPELLING REASON? to not close down the overseas US military bases and bring those young Americans home and let the rich prosperious countries on the other side of the world be responsible for their own defense and participation in their local regional/tribal/religious conflict?

And try to make it a better reason that it is Trump that is advocating isolationism rather than your person.

Now don't be a scaredy cat; if you have a reason then post it and let everyone see it.

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Post by cowtown » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:44 pm

Trump is declaring a North Korean style victory !!!
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Post by Godjira » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:59 pm

North Korea will keep the US as their main enemy regardless of troops in the DMZ. Japan is their big enemy too.

Their whole society is based on enemies- and non-Korean enemies.
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Post by Smoker » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:38 pm

Godjira wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:59 pm
North Korea will keep the US as their main enemy regardless of troops in the DMZ.
Why? The USA is gone back to their side of the world and are now an Ocean away from North Korea.

The North Koreans are not going to invade the USA. You appear to be confusing a Hollywood movie called Red Dawn with a documentary.

So the question remains; why after the experience of Vietnam/Iraq/Afghanistan etc why should US troops be on the DMZ verses South Korean troops?

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Post by Smoker » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:44 pm

cowtown wrote:
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Trump is declaring a North Korean style victory !!!
Who cares what the clown claims or declares or whatever as long as he brings the US troops on the DMZ home etc.

So Cowtown after the total human/material/treasure/emotional etc cost to the American people of Vietnam, Iraqi, Afghanistan & whatever conflict do you have any reason to not close down the overseas US military bases and bring those young Americans home and let the rich prosperious countries on the other side of the world be responsible for their own defense and participation in their local regional/tribal/religious conflict?

Why should there is US troops on the DMZ rather than just South Korean troops?

And similar to Godjira try to make it a better reason that it is Trump that is advocating isolationism rather than your person.

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Post by cowtown » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:47 pm

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cowtown wrote:
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American Influence
Really? Are you serious? That is kind of a wishy washy answer unless you accurately define this "American Influence" and explain why it is worth the total Human/material/treasure/emotional etc cost to the American people of getting involved in Vietnam, Iraqi, Afghanistan & whatever regional/tribal/religious conflict on the other side of the world.

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Re: Will Europe Stand Up if America Stands Down?

Post by cowtown » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:03 pm

It’s everything from moral authority to protecting trade and resources – the worlds better when it’s run by us, for us.

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It’s everything from moral authority to protecting trade and resources – the worlds better when it’s run by us, for us.
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harry_flashman wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:34 am
Let’s get rid of NATO and normalise our relationship with the former Soviet Union.
We are very friendly with Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Ukraine, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, and Uzbekistan already. That's almost half the republics of the former USSR.
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Post by Smoker » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:16 pm

cowtown wrote:
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It’s everything from moral authority to protecting trade and resources – the worlds better when it’s run by us, for us.
Oh look; again with the wishy washy dodge.

So how do you define this "American influence" & this "moral authority" such that it is worth the total Human/material/treasure/emotional etc cost to the American people of getting involved in Vietnam, Iraqi, Afghanistan & whatever regional/tribal/religious conflict on the other side of the world?
cowtown wrote:
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to protecting trade and resources
Wow that must have been some incredible "trade and resources" you saved by your involvement in Vietnam, Iraq & Afghanistan considering how much those conflicts etc cost America in treasure let alone the human cost.

So what trade and resources did you protect in military adventures in Vietnam, Iraq & Afghanistan or just about any of the other overseas conflicts say since the end of the cold war?
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the worlds better when it’s run by us, for us.
How did you better 'run the world for the USA' due to your involvement with boots on the ground & bombing etc in Vietnam, Iraqi, Afghanistan etc?
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Easy to miss when you’re a coat-tailing Canadian riding in our wake
Yes of course and that is why I am asking you to define this "moral authority" that you think the USA gained from being involved in conflicts such as Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan?

And also Cowtown from the materialistic point of view also define these "trade and resources" you believe you saved and/or protected by sending young Americans into harms way and spending billions blowing up stuff in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc?

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Post by cowtown » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:34 pm

Smoker, stop being so lazy and trying to win as you’ve already lost
Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan have been failures and I didn’t support 3 of those, and thought the fourth was handled poorly. Those are the extreme cases of failed wars and 3 of them pissed away our moral authority, which is why I have to indulge some obtuse internet-warrior all is bad with American policy forgetting about all the less sexy successes as generally the US does attempt doing good abroad. Doing good, our moral authority and it has served us well it’s a deterrent, as is an alliance as is NATO. Putin wants to destroy our moral authority as it would also allow him and other baddies to go unchecked. Crimea would be the new way forward with Russia and China leading the way

Surprised I have to explain trade and resources to you so I won’t

But the Smoker version of this idiocy, ww2 gave us enough money and moral authority that we can afford the few mistakes you mentioned and still live fat and the overseas markets for our tested arms, couldn’t be better
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Post by twodogs » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:33 pm

harry_flashman wrote:
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As long as NATO is there the Russians will feel a duty to respond to it. I can’t help feeling that much of Putins popularity is down down to the West’s demonisation of Russia. Let’s get rid of NATO and normalise our relationship with the former Soviet Union. You catch more flies with honey. Use the World Cup as a springboard to normalise our relationship with Russia and pull out the rug from under Trump.
Agreed. If we turned the tables and Russian troops were stationed along our borders how would we feel. NATO should have been dissolved when the USSR dissolved.
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Post by Godjira » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:43 pm

Why is Japan considered an enemy by North Korean?

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twodogs wrote:
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As long as NATO is there the Russians will feel a duty to respond to it. I can’t help feeling that much of Putins popularity is down down to the West’s demonisation of Russia. Let’s get rid of NATO and normalise our relationship with the former Soviet Union. You catch more flies with honey. Use the World Cup as a springboard to normalise our relationship with Russia and pull out the rug from under Trump.
Agreed. If we turned the tables and Russian troops were stationed along our borders how would we feel. NATO should have been dissolved when the USSR dissolved.

so you also don't have a clue whats going on with Russia and the former soviet satellites
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cowtown wrote:
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so you also don't have a clue whats going on with Russia and the former soviet satellites
Seems to me that is more of a European issue than a Untied States issue.
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Post by Godjira » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:42 am

Smoker wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:38 pm
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:59 pm
North Korea will keep the US as their main enemy regardless of troops in the DMZ.
Why? The USA is gone back to their side of the world and are now an Ocean away from North Korea.

The North Koreans are not going to invade the USA. You appear to be confusing a Hollywood movie called Red Dawn with a documentary.

So the question remains; why after the experience of Vietnam/Iraq/Afghanistan etc why should US troops be on the DMZ verses South Korean troops?

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North Korea will continue to threaten the US just like they threaten Japan even though Japan poses no threat.

North Korean power is rooted in a sense of Han:
Han or Haan is a theorized culture-bound syndrome in Hanja that denotes a collective feeling of oppression and isolation in the face of insurmountable odds, the overcoming of which is beyond the nation's own capabilities. It connotes aspects of lament and unavenged injustice.

The minjung theologian Suh Nam-dong describes han as a "feeling of unresolved resentment against injustices suffered, a sense of helplessness because of the overwhelming odds against one, a feeling of acute pain in one's guts and bowels, making the whole body writhe and squirm, and an obstinate urge to take revenge and to right the wrong—all these combined."
They need to focus on an exterior enemy.

I kind of explained that in my original post. Why do you always hack up people's posts when you reply? Is it because your're totally dishonest and unable to respond to full comments in context? Yes, I think it is.
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Godjira wrote:
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Why is Japan considered an enemy by North Korean?
Because Japan treated them as a slave labor colony for 40 years, in living memory.
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Post by Godjira » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:22 am

Exactly, so why would North Korea suddenly be all a-okay with the US if it removed troops?
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We don't have any troops in NK.
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Post by Godjira » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:34 am

I didn't say we did.
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cowtown wrote:
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Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan have been failures and I didn’t support 3 of those, and thought the fourth was handled poorly.
Well then if you truly believe the above then you should be supporting an isolationist America that would have would have left those regional/religious/tribal wars to be handled by those in the neighborhood rather than wasting American tax dollars and sending young Americans to the other side of the world to kill and be killed.

The problem you have Cowtown is Trump is the one calling for/promoting/sponsoring/whatever the American isolation policy but because it is Trump saying it you can’t emotionally admit you agree with him on this issue.
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Those are the extreme cases of failed wars and 3 of them pissed away our moral authority, which is why I have to indulge some obtuse internet-warrior all is bad with American policy forgetting about all the less sexy successes as generally the US does attempt doing good abroad. Doing good, our moral authority and it has served us well it’s a deterrent,
Define this “moral authority” of which you speak and tell us all why your so called “moral authority” is worth sending young Americans to kill and be killed in the disasters of Vietnam, Iraq & Afghanistan & whatever conflict on the other side of the world?
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as is an alliance as is NATO. Putin wants to destroy our moral authority as it would also allow him and other baddies to go unchecked. Crimea would be the new way forward with Russia and China leading the way
No I doubt Putin even knows what your so called “moral authority” means let alone wants to destroy it (whatever it is) since you are too scared to define it.

BTW have you ever been to Crimea? It is a real beautiful resort kind of place on the Black Sea and the majority of the people there are ethnic Russian. In fact the majority of them were all for the Russian annexation. Do you see now Cowtown how disasters like Vietnam/Iraq/Afghanistan etc happen when you try to pretend you know what is going on in that regional/tribal/religious conflict on the other side of world? Don't send American troops to kill or be killed but instead let the people in that neighborhood solve their own problems.
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Surprised I have to explain trade and resources to you so I won’t
You aren’t surprised; you are just scared because you can’t explain how the USA getting involved in overseas conflicts like Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan & whatever are paid for by “Trade & Resources”?
For example right now what “Trade & Resources” & “Moral Authority” is directly linked to having thousands of young Americans in harm’s way stationed on the DMZ.

Or what “Trade & Resources” & “Moral Authority” is directly linked to having thousands of American troops currently stationed in Germany decades after the end of the cold war?
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and the overseas markets for our tested arms, couldn’t be better
Hahaha! This is where you show everyone YOU REALLY DON’T UNDERSTAND TRADE.

Hey Cowtown if you stopped supplementing your allies defense around the world they would have to buy the arms themselves and pay you to train them and thus it would actually INCREASE OVERSEAS ARMS TRADE FOR AMERICA.

Wow! That was easy and hilarious!

In closing I lived in overseas countries with universal healthcare like the UK, France, Germany & the UAE which was available since they didn’t have to pay for all of their defense because you and your fellow Americans are picking up such a nice slice of the tab.

So Cowtown how is that universal healthcare for Americans coming along?

You know Cowtown & your fellow Americans; you are all such good people to voluntarily pay for so much of your allies universal healthcare while your own people go without so thanks Cowtown the American sucker from the bottom of my two sizes too small coal black heart for the universal healthcare.

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Post by Godjira » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:20 am

The pro-Kim crowd really wants the US out of DMZ. Too bad they’re not in the gulags instead of the little kids who slave there.
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Post by twodogs » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:33 am

If we leave and its business as usual everybody wins. If we leave and the locals start killing each other the US wins.

Why should we stay?
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Post by Godjira » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:48 am

You’re just saying that because you’re pro-Kim and have a death fetish.
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Why should we stay?
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Post by Godjira » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:30 am

Because Kim needs to be destroyed just like Hitler.
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Post by Smoker » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:37 am

twodogs wrote:
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Why should we stay?
Because the South Koreans want you subsidizing their defense so they can continue to divert South Korean tax dollars to universal healthcare.
South Koreans have the right to universal healthcare, ranking first in the OECD for healthcare access. Satisfaction of healthcare has been consistently among the highest in the world – South Korea was rated as the fourth most efficient healthcare system by Bloomberg.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_in_South_Korea

So twodogs, how is universal healthcare coming along for the American people?

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Post by Godjira » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:41 am

The US could easily implement such a system and not be pro-Kim.

Donald Trump ran on a platform of no mandatory health insurance.
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Will Europe Stand Up if America Stands Down?

Post by Godjira » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:48 am

Besides that, North Korea will continue to threaten the US whether troops are there or not. They threaten Japan, and Japan has no troops there.

So, they’ll continue to make nukes to lob into Alaska or Idaho, and these pro-Kim guys want the US to be unable to respond.
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Re: Will Europe Stand Up if America Stands Down?

Post by misanthrope » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:54 am

Your thinking is that NK can lob nukes into the continental United States and that the US needs troops on the Korean Peninsula to retaliate?

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Post by twodogs » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:57 am

Godjira wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:48 am
Besides that, North Korea will continue to threaten the US whether troops are there or not. They threaten Japan, and Japan has no troops there.

So, they’ll continue to make nukes to lob into Alaska or Idaho, and these pro-Kim guys want the US to be unable to respond.
The US can respond without sacrificing ground troops. Easier actually since we won't have to worry about friendly fire.

It is a bigger issue for South Korea and Japan, let them worry about it.
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Re: Will Europe Stand Up if America Stands Down?

Post by OnTheBall » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:58 am

Godjira wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:30 am
Because Kim needs to be destroyed just like Hitler.
If you were the president of the US, how would you go about doing that?

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Re: Will Europe Stand Up if America Stands Down?

Post by Smoker » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:10 am

misanthrope wrote:
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Your thinking is that NK can lob nukes into the continental United States and that the US needs troops on the Korean Peninsula to retaliate?
Oh watch out misanthrope; you are going to get labeled "pro-Kim" for asking a difficult and uncomfortable question.

American allies in the Far East want the USA to subsidize their defense so they can spend tax dollars saved on heathcare etc.

But they also want to set things up so if they get attacked the USA will be "forced" to go all in on their side in an rregional/tribal/religious conflict and/or invasion etc.

In the case of the Korean Peninsula if North Korea invaded the thousands of young Americans on the DMZ would mostly likely all die within hours or the first few days. The South Koreans know the American public after seeing young Americans massacred would scream bloody murder and never allow the US government to walk away verses going for bloody revenge 100% all in war.

Thus the US troops on the DMZ are a "trip wire" sacrifice that are there to force the USA into an 100% committed total war in the case of a North Korean invasion.

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Re: Will Europe Stand Up if America Stands Down?

Post by Godjira » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:12 am

OnTheBall wrote:
Godjira wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:30 am
Because Kim needs to be destroyed just like Hitler.
If you were the president of the US, how would you go about doing that?
Keep the pressure up, just like Reagan did with the Soviets.
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Post by Godjira » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:14 am

misanthrope wrote:Your thinking is that NK can lob nukes into the continental United States and that the US needs troops on the Korean Peninsula to retaliate?
No. It’s to keep the pressure on North Korea until the regime collapses.

I wish we could trade Smoker and 2Dawgz for gulag prisoners, but we can’t.

So, we keep the pressure up like Reagan did. The war never ended, and we’re going to win it without fighting or surrender.
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Re: Will Europe Stand Up if America Stands Down?

Post by Smoker » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:19 am

OnTheBall wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:58 am
Godjira wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:30 am
Because Kim needs to be destroyed just like Hitler.
If you were the president of the US, how would you go about doing that?
No! Stop asking pro-Kim questions!

This is priceless partisan puppet hypocrisy.

Kim must be destroyed just like Hitler but no way can Bush be allowed destroy a sweetheart like Saddam Hussain.

Whether a brutal dictator "needs to be destroyed" depends on which party the politician is from that wants to "regime change" him or negotiate with him or whatever with him.

What a pile of partisan puppet crap!

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Post by Godjira » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:26 am

I wasn’t against removing Saddam. We’ve been over that 10 times already.

Oh sure, but when Bush was President, Smoker was all like “you’re pro-Saddam!!” But now, with Trump, he wants to hand Korea over to Kim.

What a partisan loooooooser.

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Re: Will Europe Stand Up if America Stands Down?

Post by misanthrope » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:41 am

Godjira wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:14 am
misanthrope wrote:Your thinking is that NK can lob nukes into the continental United States and that the US needs troops on the Korean Peninsula to retaliate?
No. It’s to keep the pressure on North Korea until the regime collapses.

I wish we could trade Smoker and 2Dawgz for gulag prisoners, but we can’t.

So, we keep the pressure up like Reagan did. The war never ended, and we’re going to win it without fighting or surrender.
Doesn't look like pressure is working after several decades.

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Re: Will Europe Stand Up if America Stands Down?

Post by Smoker » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:35 am

misanthrope wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:41 am
Godjira wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:14 am
misanthrope wrote:Your thinking is that NK can lob nukes into the continental United States and that the US needs troops on the Korean Peninsula to retaliate?
No. It’s to keep the pressure on North Korea until the regime collapses.

I wish we could trade Smoker and 2Dawgz for gulag prisoners, but we can’t.

So, we keep the pressure up like Reagan did. The war never ended, and we’re going to win it without fighting or surrender.
Doesn't look like pressure is working after several decades.
You think? Well after all this "pressure" over several decades what is happened is North Korea has developed nuclear weapons and the dictator got younger so yea I agree that it doesn't look like "all the pressure" is working at all.

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