Labour is responsible for rise of 'softcore Holocaust denial', Dr Deborah Lipstadt says

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Re: Labour is responsible for rise of 'softcore Holocaust denial', Dr Deborah Lipstadt says

Post by DCComic » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:41 pm

'Tell you what.
Why don't you outline what Livingstone's view of Zionism is? With properly attributed sources so we know it really is his view and not some random bull-crap that came to you in a cheese-dream.
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Post by polardude1 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:20 pm

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ke ... 10661.html
Livingstone also adds that the World Jewish Congress rejected that boycott, and that Ha’avara’s profits: “Apparently provided 60 per cent of all investment in Palestine between 1933 and 1939. This fitted Hitler’s 1932 policy of ‘Jews to Palestine’ and his deputy Heydrich wrote in 1935, ‘We must separate Jews in two categories…Zionists and those who favour being assimilated. The Zionists adhere to a strict racial position…our good wishes…go with them.”
While he never actually denies that right, his account of the birth of this nation in 1948 is hardly supportive. Over four whole pages (pp 510 to 514 – look ‘em up), Livingstone articulates his view at some length that: Israel was the product of ethnic cleansing of Palestinians; that its founders lied about it; that “Jews” who had suffered genocide embarked on the policy because “Zionism was conceived at a time when the concept of racial superiority was normal”; and, in Livingstone’s words again, “I told the Board of Deputies it would be easier to achieve peace if Israel comes to terms with the crimes committed at its birth”.
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Post by DCComic » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:29 pm

There are many definitions of antisemitism, and Livingstone's endorsement of what some regard as a rather non-mainstream work of history may or may not qualify as such, though politically it was undoubtedly unwise to put things in such bald and context-free terms as he did.
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Re: Labour is responsible for rise of 'softcore Holocaust denial', Dr Deborah Lipstadt says

Post by polardude1 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:52 pm

Non mainstream work? There was also "non mainstream work on the Holocaust

https://www.haaretz.com/ken-livingstone ... -1.5770770
Why did Livingstone appear on Iranian TV on Iranian TV on International Holocaust Remembrance Day. Iran buys into "non mainstream work on the Holocaust
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And off down the rabbit-hole of lunacy he goes.
Bye Polar.
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Re: Labour is responsible for rise of 'softcore Holocaust denial', Dr Deborah Lipstadt says

Post by polardude1 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:58 pm

Again, why did Livingstone appear on Iranian TV on International Holocaust Remembrance Day?
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