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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Post by VinnyD » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:10 pm

On that screen shot it's LGBTQIA+, just in case something new has come along that they didn't know about. Maybe they could just say L+.

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korgy is trying to make a funny.

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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Post by eric84 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:34 pm

It is funny.
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Post by korgy » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:49 pm

has i seen that icon in the lower right-hand corner when i posted it, i probably would have thought twice. i'm guessing they're making fun of whites who wanna be black. the word is a little off-putting though.
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Post by Logg » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:56 am

korgy wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:47 pm
wow, that LGBT thing keeps getting longer and longer. i just looked up "LGBTQIA":

"The letters... refer to lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer or questioning, intersex, and asexual or allied. " (Chicago Tribune)

someone needs to come up with one word -- like altgender or something.
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Post by Lost Soul » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:21 am

I can totally understand why the modern Dumbocrats are excited by a stupid, racist Communist.

She ticks all your boxes.
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Post by Godjira » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:29 am

Stupid and racists? Sounds right up your alley, champ.

Meanwhile- can you find quotes from her that show she is stupid or racist?
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Post by ben_hanscombe » Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:58 am

Ha, korgy said 'nigger'.
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Post by korgy » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:05 pm

so, looks like this isnt definitely over yet -- Ocasio-Cortez is accusing Crowley, the Democratic establishment incumbent, of preparing to run as a third party candidate. not sure where she gets this from...

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Ocasio-Cortez vs. Crowley feud erupts on Twitter

Insurgent victor accuses the incumbent of waging a third-party bid.

By LAURA NAHMIAS and HEATHER CAYGLE

07/12/2018 11:09 AM EDT

NEW YORK — The battle between Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Joe Crowley isn't quite over — and it’s taking a bitter turn.

Just two weeks after the 28-year-old shocked the Democratic establishment with a stunning primary upset of the 10-term incumbent, she engaged in an extraordinary public fight with Crowley on Twitter Thursday, accusing him of planning to mount a third party run against her in November’s general election, despite his public pledge to back her candidacy after his loss. And Crowley's camp pushed back hard, accusing Ocasio-Cortez of deliberately distorting events.

Ocasio Cortez tweeted Thursday morning: “.@repjoecrowley stated on live TV that he would absolutely support my candidacy. Instead, he’s stood me up for all 3 scheduled concession calls. Now, he’s mounting a 3rd party challenge against me and the Democratic Party- and against the will of @NYWFP,” Ocasio-Cortez said, a few hours after the New York Times reported Crowley had actually won a ballot line to run in his own district in November from the Working Families Party, through a quirk in New York’s election law, but declined to vacate it despite a request from the WFP’s state director Bill Lipton.

“You’d think that given the moment we’re in that Democratic leaders would want to help progressive forces to unite,” Lipton told the Times.

Crowley pushed back against Ocasio-Cortez’s accusation on Twitter Thursday morning.

“Alexandria, the race is over and Democrats need to come together. I’ve made my support for you clear and the fact that I’m not running. We’ve scheduled phone calls and your team has not followed through. I’d like to connect but I’m not willing to air grievances on Twitter," Crowley wrote.

Because of New York’s complicated election laws, Crowley can’t simply vacate the ballot line, unless he dies or leaves the state. The Working Families Party would have to nominate him for another elected position on the ballot. Crowley made it clear that wasn’t something he wanted.

And Crowley’s camp also did behind the scenes damage control on Thursday, blaming Ocasio-Cortez’s campaign for their failure to connect via telephone after her upset win and accusing her of lying to boost herself politically.

A Crowley campaign staffer who spoke on condition of anonymity said three calls that were missed between Crowley and Ocasio-Cortez were due to hang-ups on her end, not the other way around.

“This is not true, she knows it’s not true,” the Crowley aide said. “They’re wrong and she’s just doing it to be politically craven.”

The aide said there are text messages between the two camps showing that Crowley’s team reached out asking for Ocasio Cortez’s phone number, and that her team waited hours to respond.

Furthermore, the staffer says that Corbin Trent, a spokesman for Ocasio-Cortez's campaign, called Crowley’s team Thursday to admit the information she blasted out on twitter was “a mistake."

The Crowley campaign aide declined to share the texts with POLITICO.

A spokesperson for Ocasio-Cortez’s campaign did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

“Fundamentally Alexandria should be as gracious in winning as Joe Crowley was in defeat,” the Crowley aide said.

Crowley added on Twitter: “Lots questions about WFP line. Was honored to have their support. I’m not running. For record you can only be removed from the ballot if 1) you move out of NY; 2) die; 3) be convicted of a crime; 4) accept a nomination for another office (in a place I don’t live)."

“I don’t plan on moving out of New York, have a clean record, hope God’s will is that I don’t die, and won’t commit what I honestly believe to be election fraud," he wrote.
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Post by eric84 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:14 pm

He got nominated as the Working Family Party candidate so he stays on ballot and it's hard to remove him. He says he won't campaign and it won't impact the almost certain result of Cortez winning.
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Post by VinnyD » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:18 pm

Yes. She is not looking good in this.

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eric84 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:14 pm
He got nominated as the Working Family Party candidate so he stays on ballot and it's hard to remove him. He says he won't campaign and it won't impact the almost certain result of Cortez winning.
They have weird parties in New York with cross-endorsements. I only know this because I voted in Brooklyn once. They had the parties listed.
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Post by VinnyD » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:48 pm

The first one, as far as I know, was the American Labor Party, which was invented in order to allow New York City socialists (and those communists who were unorthodox enough to vote for FDR) a way of voting for FDR without voting for the hated Tammany Hall Democratic organization. That later merged with something else and became the Liberal Party. When a conservative Republican took the Republican nomination away from the incumbent John Lindsay c. 1969, Lindsay ran and won on the Liberal line. But mostly the little parties are a way of voting for the mainstream party candidates while hoping to send a message: be more liberal/conservative/prolife/whatever.

Back in the days of liberal Republicans, the Liberal endorsement could provide the winning margin to whichever of the two main candidates got it. So it was when Lindsay first ran, I think.

The Working Family Party is new to me.

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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Post by korgy » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:01 pm

eric84 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:14 pm
He got nominated as the Working Family Party candidate so he stays on ballot and it's hard to remove him.
thanks eric. i somehow didnt make sense of that.
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Yes. She is not looking good in this.
i agree. this is the downside of being a youthful candidate -- her knee-jerk reactions.
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Post by korgy » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:04 pm

well,if i am reading this correctly, Crowley could have had his name removed -- but chose not to:
Crowley had actually won a ballot line to run in his own district in November from the Working Families Party, through a quirk in New York’s election law, but declined to vacate it despite a request from the WFP’s state director Bill Lipton.
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VinnyD wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:48 pm
The Working Family Party is new to me.
they've been around on our ballots for several decades now -- i just looked it up, and it has been exactly two decades.
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Post by eric84 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:08 pm

korgy wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:01 pm
eric84 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:14 pm
He got nominated as the Working Family Party candidate so he stays on ballot and it's hard to remove him.
thanks eric. i somehow didnt make sense of that.
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:18 pm
Yes. She is not looking good in this.
i agree. this is the downside of being a youthful candidate -- her knee-jerk reactions.
Nate Silver did several tweets about it, giving context. I had no idea before today.
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Post by korgy » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:17 pm

trying to get context here. basically, the WFP cannot remove Crowley, but Crowley can -- but it would be very difficult, apparently:
He says that’s because of the legal hoops he’d have to jump through to remove his name, and one elections law expert Vox talked to agreed there would be obstacles. (Vox)
here's the NYTimes version-- apparently, his name can be removed by running for another office:
The party wanted to put her on its line in November, and had asked Mr. Crowley to vacate the line by running for another office that he had no intention of occupying and little chance of winning, whether a county clerkship or state legislative post. But Mr. Lipton said the Crowley campaign declined to work with them on the maneuver.

It did not take long for Mr. Crowley to respond. In the first of three Twitter posts, he wrote, “Alexandria, the race is over and Democrats need to come together. I’ve made my support for you clear and the fact that I’m not running. We’ve scheduled phone calls and your team has not followed through.”

Alexandria, the race is over and Democrats need to come together. I’ve made my support for you clear and the fact that I’m not running. We’ve scheduled phone calls and your team has not followed through. I’d like to connect but I’m not willing to air grievances on Twitter. https://t.co/hxEeWEpI2O
— Joe Crowley (@JoeCrowleyNY) July 12, 2018

As for the fact that his name will remain on the ballot in the November, Mr. Crowley wrote in a second Twitter post that there are “lots of questions about WFP line,” adding that he was “honored to have their support.” But, he added, “for record you can only be removed from the ballot if 1) you move out of NY; 2) die; 3) be convicted of a crime; 4) accept a nomination for another office (in a place I don’t live).”

There are no residency requirements, however, for some offices, and election lawyers say Mr. Crowley could put his name in nomination for any number of positions.

Representative Crowley concluded: “I don’t plan on moving out of New York, have a clean record, hope God’s will is that I don’t die, and won’t commit what I honestly believe to be election fraud.”

I don’t plan on moving out of New York, have a clean record, hope God’s will is that I don’t die, and won’t commit what I honestly believe to be election fraud. https://t.co/Cxk3s5zALi
— Joe Crowley (@JoeCrowleyNY) July 12, 2018
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Post by VinnyD » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:38 pm

I can't blame for not running for another office just to get his name off this ballot. What if the person expected to win the other election died or was caught in a scandal or something and Crowley won the election? Not campaigning should be good enough. If Ocasio-Cortez can't beat somebody running on a minor party line who has not campaigned and has endorsed her, she probably doesn't deserve to be in Congress.

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Post by eric84 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:39 pm

VinnyD wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:38 pm
I can't blame for not running for another office just to get his name off this ballot. What if the person expected to win the other election died or was caught in a scandal or something and Crowley won the election? Not campaigning should be good enough. If Ocasio-Cortez can't beat somebody running on a minor party line who has not campaigned and has endorsed her, she probably doesn't deserve to be in Congress.
There is almost zero chance of her losing.
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She shouldn't have expended any political capital on this nonissue.
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Post by VinnyD » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:44 pm

I'm kind of surprised that the WFP didn't endorse her. Wiki:
The Working Families Party of New York was first organized in 1998 by a coalition of labor unions, community organizations, members of the now-inactive national New Party, and a variety of advocacy groups such as Citizen Action of New York and the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. The party's main concerns are jobs, healthcare, raising the minimum wage, universal paid sick days, the student debt crisis, higher taxes on the rich, public education, and energy and environmental reform.

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Post by eric84 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:16 pm

Cortez wasn't expected to win the nomination.
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