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Post by Godjira » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:41 am

And where QE has solved Japan's debt problem.
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Godjira wrote:
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And where QE has solved Japan's debt problem.
QE will give us single-payer healthcare just like in Thailand.

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Post by twodogs » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:10 pm

Apple CEO Tim Cook joined Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval and Reno Mayor Hillary Schieve at a groundbreaking Wednesday for a new $4 million warehouse in downtown Reno as the company announced plans to invest $350 billion in the U.S. economy over the next five years.

Sandoval, Schieve and others praised the move and Apple’s earlier commitment to double the size of its $1 billion data center east of Reno as important milestones in the economic recovery of Nevada, one of the states hardest hit by the recession seven years ago.

Cook said the company’s five-year U.S. plan will generate 20,000 Apple jobs and include more than $10 billion for projects like the data center in Washoe County along Interstate 80 east of Reno and Sparks.

As a result of the tax reform bill signed last month, Apple plans to bring back most of its roughly $252 billion in offshore cash, generating a tax bill of about $38 billion. It’s something Cook promised the company would do if it could avoid being taxed at the 35 percent rate that had been in effect under the previous tax law.

Apple announced plans for the downtown warehouse in May at the same time it announced plans for a $1 billion expansion of that data center, which will include 100 permanent workers, doubling its workforce. About 300 temporary construction jobs also will be created, the company said.
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Wonder why Apple didn't build this in California?
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Post by eric84 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:34 pm

100 permanent workers! California is reeling!
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Post by twodogs » Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:56 pm

For more than two decades, Sweden's Volvo Cars has coveted a U.S. production plant to help restore it as a leading European import brand. The past 10 years have seen Volvo's sale by Ford Motor Co., its 2010 acquisition by China's Zhejiang Geely, and now eight years later, the official opening last week of a $1.1 billion production plant in Ridgeville, S.C., that eventually will have 4,000 workers.

Volvo is counting on the South Carolina investment to get it closer to U.S. customers and retailers, and to give it localized production of large-volume products — first the S60 sedan and later, the XC90 crossover, which the company says is its most profitable vehicle.
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Post by Citizen Baba » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:30 pm

WASHINGTON—Economic growth was slower at the beginning of this year than the government previously reported, as consumers pulled back spending and the housing market weighed down output.

Gross domestic product, a broad measure of the goods and services produced across the U.S., expanded at a seasonally and inflation-adjusted annual rate of 2% in the first quarter, the Commerce Department reported Thursday. That was weaker than an earlier estimate of 2.2% growth.

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Post by birdlite » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:26 am

Three times Trump announced that US Steel is opening 6 new plants. Trump said that the CEO called him before the announcement went public earlier this week.
Except:
US Steel made no such announcement
The CEO did not call Trump and tell him that
US Steel is opening no new plants
wacky Trump.

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Three times Trump announced that US Steel is opening SIX new plants. Trump said that the CEO called him before the announcement went public earlier this week.

Except:
US Steel made no such announcement
The CEO did not call Trump and tell him that
US Steel is opening ZERO new plants
One Wall Street analyst who tracks U.S. Steel and its industry did not mince words when asked about the presidential take. "There is no expansion," offered Charles Bradford of Bradford Research. In fact, he added of U.S. Steel's future: "it's likely to shrink."

All that has occurred is a plant closed temporarily by U.S. Steel a few years ago has been gradually reopening over the last several months
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Post by Lost Soul » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:31 am

The rainbow coalition speaks.
IMPRISON BUSH!

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It's very pretty, birdlite.
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Post by twodogs » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:38 pm

This is either fake news or people are confusing US steel the industry with US Steel the company. There are plenty of new metal industry projects in the US.

Nucor, Steel of West Virginia, Skyline, Kobe, Steel Dynamics, Charter, Steel Dynamics and Nippon have all announced projects.

Most are micro mills for finished or specialty steel and are located near the end user to save shipping costs.

https://www.steel-technology.com/projects
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Post by Citizen Baba » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:41 pm

2% growth!

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Post by Godjira » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:02 pm

Either you get results or not!
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Post by twodogs » Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:52 pm

Insulet Corporation manufactures insulin delivery systems. In 2017 the company announced it would be moving the production of its flagship product -- the Omnipod, a tubeless, waterproof insulin pump -- from China to a new facility in Acton, Massachusetts. Insulet cited the area's skilled workforce and rising labor costs in China as reasons for the move. If Insulet meets earnings expectations for the next several years, the new facility could employ as many as 1,500 workers by 2021.

Element Electronics opened a new flat screen television factory in Detroit. The decision was based on a need to consolidate the company's supply chain, and made Element one of the only companies to manufacture televisions in the U.S. Element also reshored production from China to Winnsboro, South Carolina with an initial $7.5 million investment in a new plant that is projected to lead to the creation of 500 jobs. The TV manufacturer cited Walmart's pledge to buy $250 billion of U.S.-made products from 2013 to 2023 as a primary reason to relocate operations to the United States.

Gentex closed its two plants in China and Mexico in an effort to centralize production in Zeeland, Michigan. While labor was less expensive overseas, the move to consolidate all stages of production in one location is likely to reduce transportation costs and the risk of manufacturing error. Amount to a total of 1,600 jobs for U.S. workers.

In a January 2018 meeting with President Donald Trump, Amgen CEO Robert Bradway announced that the firm was planning to add 1,600 manufacturing jobs in the U.S.

Merck, along with pharmaceutical manufacturers Pfizer and Corning, have committed to making a joint investment of at least $4 billion in pharmaceutical glass manufacturing in the U.S. The partnership will focus on the manufacturing of advanced pharmaceutical glass packing, a technology used in the storage of injectable drugs, as well as vials and cartridges, and is projected to lead to the direct. hiring of 4,000 U.S employees across the three companies.

Merck also recently reshored approximately 300 jobs as part of its efforts to consolidate its overseas operations in the U.S. The company relocated the headquarters of its animal health division from Boxmeer, the Netherlands to its campus in Summit, New Jersey.

SolarCity announced a deal with the State of New York that commits the company to invest approximately $5 billion over the next 10 years in return for a $750 million construction subsidy that is projected to create at least 1,900 jobs.

Polaris Industries announced plans to build a $142 million off-road vehicle plant in Huntsville, Alabama that will create an estimated 2,000 manufacturing jobs in the area.

Caterpillar has announced reshoring projects that will target facilities in Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, and Texas, and will add or retain an estimated 2,100 U.S. manufacturing jobs. In 2012, Caterpillar opened a new facility in Victoria, Texas with an initial investment of $200 million in an effort to shift production of its hydraulic excavators from Akashi, Japan to the U.S. In August 2015, Caterpillar announced plans to expand employment at its Victoria facility, moving its vocational truck manufacturing operations from Mexico to the Texas location.

Whirlpool has announced several efforts to consolidate its overseas operations within the U.S. that will add up to an estimated 2,165 reshored jobs for domestic manufacturing workers. Most recently, in January 2018 Whirlpool announced it would be adding 200 full-time employees to its facility in Clyde, Ohio. The news came shortly after the Trump Administration announced safeguard tariffs on large imported residential washing machines, a move projected to reduce import competition from Whirlpool rivals Samsung Electronics and LG Electronics.

General Electric has announced domestic capital investments that are projected to add approximately 2,700 jobs to the U.S. manufacturing workforce.

Dow Chemical announced plans to invest $6 billion in its manufacturing plants in Texas and Louisiana in an effort to capitalize on lower domestic natural gas prices. According to a Dow executive, the increase in U.S. fracking activity has created significant investment prospects for chemical producers in the United States that will pay off in the next several years. The Gulf Coast reshoring effort is largely focused on the production of ethylene, propylene, and chemical derivatives used in packaging. The company's reshoring efforts announced over the past several years are projected to retain or add approximately 2,900 manufacturing jobs to the U.S.

Intel announced plans to hire 4,000 U.S. workers and build a $5 billion microprocessor plant in Chandler, Arizona. Known as Fab 42, the plant will use the 7-nanometer production process and is projected to be the most advanced, high-volume microprocessor plant in the world. While the facility was completed in 2013, its opening was stalled for several years. In February 2017, however, Intel announced plans to open the facility with a total investment of $7 billion and the direct hiring of 3,000 high-tech, high-wage workers. The tech giant projects the plant will be completed in the next two to three years, and will indirectly lead to the creation of roughly 10,000 jobs throughout Arizona.

In January 2017, Ford announced plans to cancel the $1.6 billion expansion of its Mexico production facility, instead opting to expand operations at its Flat Rock, Michigan facility with a $700 million investment projected to create 700 jobs. Similar reshoring efforts by the U.S. auto giant have been announced over the past eight years, targeting facilities in Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, New York, and other parts of Michigan and totaling an estimated 4,200 new jobs for the domestic workforce.

Boeing has rapidly expanded its U.S. workforce at various manufacturing plants throughout the East Coast. Boeing began operations at a new plant in Charleston, South Carolina in 2011 that manufactures 787 Dreamliner planes. Boeing also recently moved parts of its production of the new 777X plane from overseas to its St. Louis facility. The first 777X is projected to be completed by December 2019. According to the Reshoring Initiative, since 2010 Boeing has announced plans to reshore approximately 8,000 jobs, the most of any U.S. company other than General Motors and Apple.

General Motors has made several announcements regarding various reshoring efforts that will boost employment at its plants in Michigan, New York, Tennessee, and Texas. The largest announcement came January 2017, when GM made public its plans to add or retain 7,000 jobs in the U.S. over the next few years. One of the major reshoring projects will be the shifting of approximately 600 jobs from an axle production plant in Mexico to a new facility in Arlington, Texas.

In January 2018, Apple announced plans to invest over $30 billion in capital expenditures in the U.S. over the next five years. As part of the investment, Apple is increasing its commitment to its Advanced Manufacturing Fund -- used to invest in U.S. manufacturing companies and boost the domestic manufacturing sector -- from $1 billion to $5 billion. The move is projected to create over 20,000 new jobs at Apple's existing campuses and at a new office location which has yet to be announced.
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Post by Citizen Baba » Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:55 pm

A shame all those anecdotes aren't adding up to strong economic growth.

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Post by mad hatter » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:14 pm

shame you dont under stand what a govt bond is
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Post by eric84 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:16 pm

mad hatter wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:14 pm
shame you dont under stand what a govt bond is
What?
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Post by mad hatter » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:17 pm

eric84 wrote:
mad hatter wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:14 pm
shame you dont under stand what a govt bond is
What?
wasnt talking to you eric
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Post by eric84 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:19 pm

mad hatter wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:17 pm
eric84 wrote:
mad hatter wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:14 pm
shame you dont under stand what a govt bond is
What?
wasnt talking to you eric
It didn't make any sense regardless of who you were addressing. Maybe expand on it a bit.
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Post by mad hatter » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:26 pm

eric84 wrote:
mad hatter wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:17 pm
eric84 wrote: What?
wasnt talking to you eric
It didn't make any sense regardless of who you were addressing. Maybe expand on it a bit.
it will make sense to person it was directed to. thanks for your service eric.
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Post by eric84 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:27 pm

Well, hopefully that person, whoever it is, will confirm that.
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Post by Citizen Baba » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:37 pm

mad hatter wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:14 pm
shame you dont under stand what a govt bond is
A shame you can't express yourself clearly.

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Citizen Baba wrote:
mad hatter wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:14 pm
shame you dont under stand what a govt bond is
A shame you can't express yourself clearly.
i did. you dont know what they are and how they work but pretend you do. bless.
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Post by eric84 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:45 pm

mad hatter wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:42 pm
Citizen Baba wrote:
mad hatter wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:14 pm
shame you dont under stand what a govt bond is
A shame you can't express yourself clearly.
i did. you dont know what they are and how they work but pretend you do. bless.
What does have to do with what is being discussed here, Mad Hatter?
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i wasnt talking to you eric. thankyou for your service.
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mad hatter wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:42 pm
Citizen Baba wrote:
mad hatter wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:14 pm
shame you dont under stand what a govt bond is
A shame you can't express yourself clearly.
i did. you dont know what they are and how they work but pretend you do. bless.
What don't I "under stand" exactly?

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Citizen Baba wrote:
mad hatter wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:42 pm
Citizen Baba wrote: A shame you can't express yourself clearly.
i did. you dont know what they are and how they work but pretend you do. bless.
What don't I "under stand" exactly?
what government debt is.
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Post by eric84 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:51 pm

You said government bond, actually. What it has to do with the state of the US economy, only Mad Hatter knows, I guess.
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Post by Citizen Baba » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:54 pm

He's less articulate than Lost Soul, and that takes some doing.

QE may have indirect effects on the bond market, but you don't need to issue bonds to conduct QE. If that's what you're on about. Nobody knows.

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Nestle Purina Petcare said in late September it will spend $320 million to build a pet food factory and distribution center in Hartwell, Ga. The distribution center will begin next year and production will begin in 2019, reports the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

It will be Purina's first new U.S. factory in two decades. It should create 240 new jobs over the next five years.

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LG Electronics is planning to invest $28 million to open a solar module assembly plant in Huntsville, creating 160 new jobs.

A press release from the governor's office says that the new jobs will increase LG's employment by 60 percent, to more than 400 employees.
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Citizen Baba wrote:He's less articulate than Lost Soul, and that takes some doing.

QE may have indirect effects on the bond market, but you don't need to issue bonds to conduct QE. If that's what you're on about. Nobody knows.
youre at an eric level of stupid on this one. stick to immigration.
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Post by eric84 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:45 pm

mad hatter wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:06 pm
Citizen Baba wrote:He's less articulate than Lost Soul, and that takes some doing.

QE may have indirect effects on the bond market, but you don't need to issue bonds to conduct QE. If that's what you're on about. Nobody knows.
youre at an eric level of stupid on this one. stick to immigration.
Have you yet figured out the point you were trying to make?
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Post by mad hatter » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:56 pm

eric84 wrote:
mad hatter wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:06 pm
Citizen Baba wrote:He's less articulate than Lost Soul, and that takes some doing.

QE may have indirect effects on the bond market, but you don't need to issue bonds to conduct QE. If that's what you're on about. Nobody knows.
youre at an eric level of stupid on this one. stick to immigration.
Have you yet figured out the point you were trying to make?
i have. youre too stupid to understand so keep digging.
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eric84 wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:45 pm
mad hatter wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:06 pm
Citizen Baba wrote:He's less articulate than Lost Soul, and that takes some doing.

QE may have indirect effects on the bond market, but you don't need to issue bonds to conduct QE. If that's what you're on about. Nobody knows.
youre at an eric level of stupid on this one. stick to immigration.
Have you yet figured out the point you were trying to make?
He's a little constipated.

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Post by mad hatter » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:27 pm

Citizen Baba wrote:
eric84 wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:45 pm
mad hatter wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:06 pm
youre at an eric level of stupid on this one. stick to immigration.
Have you yet figured out the point you were trying to make?
He's a little constipated.
how cute. baba running help his ickle friend. maybe baba can explain bonds to eric?
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Post by Citizen Baba » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:33 pm

QE has little to do with bonds.

Take a laxative and come back when you can crap it out.

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Post by eric84 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:39 pm

mad hatter wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:56 pm
eric84 wrote:
mad hatter wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:06 pm
youre at an eric level of stupid on this one. stick to immigration.
Have you yet figured out the point you were trying to make?
i have. youre too stupid to understand so keep digging.
C’mon, try to embarrass me with your dazzling insight into gov’t bonds.
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Post by mad hatter » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:41 pm

you and baba continue to circle jerk each other with insights such as qe and bonds have nothing to do with each other. amuse us all more.
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Post by twodogs » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:05 pm

Of all the markets in the world that are being affected by the policy of quantitative easing (QE) tapering, the bond markets are the most affected. This is because the policy rules mandate that the primary investments being made by the government as a result of the money created must be in the bond markets. As a result, a massive amount of money is entering and leaving the bond market based on the changes in this policy.
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Post by mad hatter » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:20 pm

Citizen Baba wrote:QE has nothing to do with the national debt.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_debt

"Governments create debt by issuing securities, government bonds and bills."
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Post by Citizen Baba » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:36 pm

mad hatter wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:20 pm
Citizen Baba wrote:QE has nothing to do with the national debt.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_debt

"Governments create debt by issuing securities, government bonds and bills."
No kidding, genius.

But the topic is quantitative easing, which doesn't create new public debt:
To carry out QE central banks create money by buying securities, such as government bonds, from banks, with electronic cash that did not exist before.
https://www.economist.com/the-economist ... ive-easing

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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by mad hatter » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:51 pm

fuck youre an idiot.
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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by Citizen Baba » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:59 pm

mad hatter wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:51 pm
fuck youre an idiot.
Someone who can’t put together a single, proper sentence, let alone argue a point, is calling me an idiot. Heh.

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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by twodogs » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:34 am

Obama printed 3 trillion and the US economy improved. It worked so why not do it some more?
More irrational spitefulness coming from twodogs...

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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by mad hatter » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:38 am

Citizen Baba wrote:
mad hatter wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:51 pm
fuck youre an idiot.
Someone who can’t put together a single, proper sentence, let alone argue a point, is calling me an idiot. Heh.
stick to felching felix and eric. youre good at that.
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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by Citizen Baba » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:40 am

twodogs wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:34 am
Obama printed 3 trillion and the US economy improved. It worked so why not do it some more?
The president doesn’t control QE. The Fed does.

Otherwise, you should learn a little bit about monetary policy, particularly counter-cyclic economic policy.

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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by Citizen Baba » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:42 am

Oxycontin works when you’re in pain. Why not use it when you’re not in pain?

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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by Godjira » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:43 am

Printing money caused Japan’s deflation and helps keep debt down to only 2 times GDP.
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