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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by twodogs » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:58 am

eric84 wrote:
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And they could’ve built more but now won’t.
They average 1400 a day.

These are two different types of cars. Small electric ones for the Asian market will be built in China. Large SUVs for the US market will be built in the US.

Makes perfect sense to me. Asian cars should be built in Asia, European cars should be built in Europe and North American cars should be built in the United States.
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Post by eric84 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:02 am

So, you now want to sacrifice 10k jobs
in South Carolina? The place is already a red state economic nightmare.
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Post by Godjira » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:21 am

Are you kidding? Sacrifice? 2dawgz would pimp his grandmother for extra nickel a week tax cut.
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twodogs wrote:Not sure why they consistently under report jobs for President Trump and over reported jobs for Obama but mistakes happen.
Who under-reported?
https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/06/news/e ... index.html

Better yet, who is telling you it's under-reported?
It was routinely over-reported under the Sacred Maobama.

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Post by Godjira » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:37 am

Now all of a sudden it’s accurate!!!
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Godjira wrote:
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Now all of a sudden it’s accurate!!!
No, it's probably under-reported.
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Lost Soul wrote:
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Now all of a sudden it’s accurate!!!
No, it's probably under-reported.
Now suddenly it’s worse than accurate!!

2dogz is doing a rightard schtick, but you really believe it.

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Are you capable of following the bouncing ball?
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Post by Godjira » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:36 am

Yes. Donald Trump is truly king of kings.
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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

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Lost Soul wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:35 am
birdlite wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:30 pm
twodogs wrote:Not sure why they consistently under report jobs for President Trump and over reported jobs for Obama but mistakes happen.
Who under-reported?
https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/06/news/e ... index.html

Better yet, who is telling you it's under-reported?
It was routinely over-reported under the Sacred Maobama.

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Ditchdigger, of course, agreed with Trumpiedooodle the candidate that unemployment rates are bullshit. I don't hear from him anymore, for some reason.
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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by twodogs » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:41 pm

eric84 wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:02 am
So, you now want to sacrifice 10k jobs
in South Carolina? The place is already a red state economic nightmare.
What jobs are those?
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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by eric84 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:48 pm

twodogs wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:41 pm
eric84 wrote:
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So, you now want to sacrifice 10k jobs
in South Carolina? The place is already a red state economic nightmare.
What jobs are those?
BMW plant jobs. You want them built in Germany, now. Didn't you just advocate that?
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Post by twodogs » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:52 pm

The BMW plant in South Carolina builds cars for the US market which is booming. There are no plans to shut it down.
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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by eric84 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:56 pm

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The BMW plant in South Carolina builds cars for the US market which is booming. There are no plans to shut it down.
But you said German cars should be built in Germany. Have you changed your mind on that?
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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by twodogs » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:15 pm

Sorry Eric I should have been more clear. Cars for the Asian market should be built in Asia, cars for the European market should be built in Europe and so on. The brand name doesn't matter for example Volvo is owned by a Chinese company that just built a state of the art manufacturing facility in South Carolina for the US market.

As the tariffs expand I expect there will be more of that which is why so many auto parts suppliers are moving to the US.

For example:

General Motors Co. announced Tuesday it will add or retain 7,000 U.S. jobs in the next few years and invest $1 billion in U.S. plants, including in Michigan.

The automaker said it expects more than 5,000 salaried jobs will come in key growth areas such as with its subsidiary GM Financial and in advanced technology.

GM said it also will in-source from a supplier axle jobs for its next-generation full-size pickups. That work currently is done in Mexico and it will move to Michigan, creating 450 U.S. jobs.h.

The car maker also said another supplier it did not name will make components for GM's next-generation full-size trucks in Michigan, moving 100 supplier jobs to the U.S. from Mexico.

Hyundai Motor Corp. and Kia Motors Corp. said the companies plan to invest $3 billion in the U.S. in the next five years and the Korean automakers are considering building a new plant here.

Toyota Motor Corp. said it plans to invest $10 billion in the U.S. over the next five years.

Fiat Chrysler on Jan. 8 said it would invest $1 billion in plants in Michigan and Ohio, adding 2,000 jobs to produce new Jeep vehicles.

Ford canceled plans for a new small car plant in Mexico.
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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by twodogs » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:49 pm

VDL Groep, an Netherlands-based international industrial and manufacturing company, will create 110 jobs and invest $17 million to open a manufacturing complex at Oakwood South business park in Hall County, Georgia.

The facility is expected to be operational by August 2018. New jobs will include positions in engineering, manufacturing and general sales administration.

“VDL Groep sees the state of Georgia as an attractive starting point based on geography and availability of resources,” said VDL Groep President & CEO Willem van der Leegte. “We are a specialist in providing the supply chain for our customers and we think there is a demand for our products and services in the surroundings of Georgia.”

Lots of opportunity in the southeastern US. They are perfectly located to supply all the new auto assembly plants in the regions. Smart people.
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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by simon_in_exile » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:54 pm

110 jobs!

Meanwhile...
In the first six months after the Trump tax cuts were passed, corporate investment in equipment declined, America’s projected long-term deficit swelled by nearly $2 trillion, and wages for the vast majority of American workers fell on an inflation-adjusted basis.
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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by twodogs » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:28 pm

Not from what I read.

"projected"?

How much is a "vast majority"?
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Post by Godjira » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:35 am

Won't someone please think about earnings per share??!
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Post by twodogs » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:22 am

With a record 6.7 million unfilled jobs in April, economists are optimistic that wage growth will accelerate later this year.

Economists polled by Reuters had forecast nonfarm payrolls increasing by 195,000 jobs last month and the unemployment rate steady at 3.8 percent.

The employment report together with data from the Commerce Department showing the trade deficit narrowed 6.6 percent to a 1-1/2-year low of $43.1 billion in May reinforced expectations of robust economic growth in the second quarter.

Gross domestic product estimates for the April-June period are above a 4 percent annualized rate, double the 2.0 percent pace logged in the first quarter.
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Post by Godjira » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:44 am

And you can count on President (LOL) Trump doing everything he can to keep that from happening!
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Post by twodogs » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:43 pm

3 partnerships that are creating jobs of the future

1. DowDuPont in Michigan

Take for example, DowDuPont. When Dow Chemical needed workers at its Midland, Michigan plants in 2008, it began a partnership with Delta College and Great Lakes Bay Michigan Works to train jobseekers in skills that exactly match those on the manufacturing floor. Each time, Dow needs to hire, it fires up the Fast Start program. The accelerated program — 13 weeks from start to finish — combines chemical lab work with classroom work and culminates in a job interview with the company. Over the past 10 years, Dow has hired 350 workers who went through the local skills training program to become full-time chemical process operators and technicians earning between $16 to $25 an hour plus benefits. Even with state unemployment down to 4.8 percent from its Great Recession high of 14 percent, Dow needs more workers and the program is helping fill that need.

2. Tesla and Google in Nevada

Nevada is another state seeing a resurgence from the economic downturn of 2008 and, by one estimate, there will be more than 600,000 new tech jobs in health care, manufacturing, and construction created over the next five years. In the northern part of the state where Tesla, Google, and Panasonic are expanding, those companies are working with a local community college to up-skill the local workforce. In Las Vegas, a registered apprenticeship program is helping close the skills gap in construction. Three times a week, 130 men and women gather in a classroom to learn to operate heavy equipment such as cranes or how to survey a site using drones and other cutting-edge tools. The other two days a week are spent on an actual union work site. At the end of the state-sanctioned construction apprenticeships, workers are being hired for jobs that start at $65,000 a year plus benefits.

3. J.P. Morgan, Bank of America and Wells Fargo in Los Angeles

Attrition is playing a role in the skills gap. More than 1.8 million specialists and clerks are expected to exit the financial industry over the next seven years as they get close to retirement. Combined with changes in technology, an estimated 4.5 million jobs will be vacant, creating a critical shortage. In Los Angeles, the JVS BankWork$ program is training jobseekers in underrepresented neighborhoods, preparing them for entry-level jobs in the industry. Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Union Banks and Wells Fargo are among the financial institutions funding the initiative. The intensive eight-week course is free, and newly-hired workers are offered an average of $16.95 an hour plus benefits for their first year.
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Post by twodogs » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:13 pm

For the week, the Dow is up 2.3%, the S&P is up 1.5%, and the Nasdaq finished 1.8% higher. This is the second straight weekly advance for all three, as well as the Dow’s best week since early June.

Does this mean we are in a recession?
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Good location decision by this French company for when GM stops building trucks in Oshawa.

"GM is spending nearly $3 billion to upgrade factories in Michigan and Indiana to build the next Silverado and Sierra. It’s a sleeker, more aerodynamic version with expanded powertrain options and functionality, for the 2019 model year."

Only 50 people a shift to run a 73,000 square foot facility means it is going to be highly automated.

"A new auto parts supplier plans to build in Toledo.

Faurecia North America is planning to open a factory in the old Jeep Parkway plant. They will supply auto parts to customers like General Motors and Ford.

"It's a recognized automotive area, so we know that the skills are here that we need to build the product for our customers," said Nick Howard with Faurecia Industrial Strategy and Projects. Faurecia will join Detroit Manufacturing and Dana as one of three auto parts manufacturers in the Overland Park Industrial Complex. The company expects to create about 100 jobs, running two shifts, six days per week

Faurecia plans to open its nearly 73,000 foot facility in April of 2019."
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Post by Godjira » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:29 am

50 people a shift?
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Godjira wrote:
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50 people a shift?
Correct, automation is astounding. I did some work at the old Toyota plant in Fremont when it had nearly 6,000 employees and at the new one in San Antonio which only has 1,500 employees. The improvement in build quality was amazing as well.
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Make America Great Again... for Robots!!
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Post by twodogs » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:49 pm

Automation is global and irreversible. It doesn't matter what a machine costs as long as it eliminates people. When you automate a facility you are usually able to reduce the number of employees and more importantly dwell time by at least half. Quality improves as well.
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Post by Chi_Rup » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:02 pm

Sounds like some radical wealth redistribution is required to prevent automation creating a permanent under-employed, low life expectancy varmint class, doesn’t it?

Trump won’t be doing any of that.

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Post by snowgirl » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:02 pm

I haven't read the last few pages but has anyone talked about anything other than the economy in this thread? Because in my world a great country doesn't take away children from people who end up at the border looking for asylum. A great country doesn't militarize their local police forces even while police killings of unarmed citizens is on the rise. A great country doesn't sit around watching their children get slaughtered at school and not come together to make sure it never happens again. A great country doesn't only allow the best healthcare for those who can afford it. A great country doesn't elect an admitted sex offender with a shrug.

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Post by Lost Soul » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:19 pm

eric84 wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:08 pm
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Who under-reported?
https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/06/news/e ... index.html

Better yet, who is telling you it's under-reported?
It was routinely over-reported under the Sacred Maobama.

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Ditchdigger, of course, agreed with Trumpiedooodle the candidate that unemployment rates are bullshit. I don't hear from him anymore, for some reason.
You have it backwards. Trump agreed with me. I've been calling them bullshit for 25 years.
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Post by eric84 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:36 pm

Except now.
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Post by Lost Soul » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:37 pm

Really?
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snowgirl wrote:
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America hasn't been great for a while now and it's not getting any better regardless of how the economy is doing.
No doubt America is in decline and has been for decades but as long as people still die or are willing to pay to move here it must not be as bad as some other countries. Perhaps one or two of the "great" countries could set up transfer points in Mexico to accept the flood of illegal immigrants and show them the compassion they deserve.
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A great country is run for the benefit of its citizens, not just slightly less than a third of the white ones.

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Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV will invest $1 billion at its Warren Truck Assembly plant to bring production of its Ram Heavy Duty truck to the U.S. from Mexico. The company said Thursday the move will add 2,500 jobs in Metro Detroit by 2020, when the plant retooling is completed.

The automaker also plans to give its 60,000 hourly and salaried U.S. employees $2,000 bonuses.

“These announcements reflect our ongoing commitment to our U.S. manufacturing footprint and the dedicated employees who have contributed to FCA’s success,” CEO Sergio Marchionne said in a statement. “It is only proper that our employees share in the savings generated by tax reform and that we openly acknowledge the resulting improvement in the U.S. business environment by investing in our industrial footprint accordingly.”

The company said the move solidifies the U.S. as a manufacturing hub for Ram vehicles. Marchionne and the company said both the new investment and the bonuses were “made possible in part by the passage of U.S. tax reform legislation late last year.”

My guess is GM will follow suit very soon. No sense in building vehicles in Canada and Mexico when the tariffs are so high.
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"Truck-maker Oshkosh Corporation will place a factory in Jefferson City, creating more than 300 jobs by 2021, state officials announced Thursday.

“With products and facilities around the world, we are excited to grow our operational footprint,” Oshkosh President and CEO Wilson Jones said in the announcement. “Oshkosh Corporation is positioned for success in all segments and this new manufacturing facility will allow us to continue to respond to the demand for increased manufacturing capabilities.”

Wisconsin-based Oshkosh employs about 15,000 worldwide, with factories in seven states and Australia, Canada, China, France, Mexico, Romania and the United Kingdom, according to the company’s website. Founded in 2017, Oshkosh makes military, commercial and emergency vehicles under the names Oshkosh, JLG, Pierce, McNeilus, Jerr-Dan, Frontline, CON-E-CO, London and IMT."
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Post by Electrolyte » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:32 pm

300 jobs! Awesome! The unemployment rate just declined by .0003 percent (not counting the jobs lost in the trade war)!

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Post by twodogs » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:48 pm

I think so. Considering 40 part time nail benders got laid off and it made national news.
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twodogs wrote:I think so. Considering 40 part time nail benders got laid off and it made national news.
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Post by twodogs » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:55 pm

The JOLTS report also showed there were 6.6 million unfilled jobs at the end of May
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twodogs wrote:The JOLTS report also showed there were 6.6 million unfilled jobs at the end of May
You never answered my questions from the last time you posted.
What kind of jobs are they?
How many are full time?
How many are temporary?
Part time?
How many offer benefits?
What is the average or median pay for these jobs?
How many require advanced education?
College Education?
How many pay for relocation?
How many pay a living wage for the locations for which the jobs are offered?
How many are seasonal?
“Sure, you can get a job slinging hamburgers somewhere or working in a warehouse,” said Christina Jones, 53, of Mobile, Ala. Ms. Jones spent eight months searching for a job with living wages and benefits, after being laid off from a paper company where she had worked for nearly 13 years. Dozens of interviews later, she landed work last month at a concrete crushing company as an accounts payable clerk for $14 an hour — two-thirds her previous salary.

“You hear, ‘Oh, the unemployment rate is as low as it’s ever been,’” Ms. Jones said, but “it was discouraging.”

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More on the topic
Worker pay in the second quarter dropped nearly one percent below its first-quarter level, according to the PayScale Index, one measure of worker pay. When accounting for inflation, the drop is even steeper. Year-over-year, rising prices have eaten up still-modest pay gains for many workers, with the result that real wages fell 1.4 percent from the prior year, according to PayScale. The drop was broad, with 80 percent of industries and two-thirds of metro areas affected.

"Now, economic confidence has been good, we're in a strong economy, GDP is growing, but the question has been, where's the paycheck?" said Katie Bardaro, vice president of data analytics at PayScale.  

The answer is, largely, in the companies' coffers. Businesses are spending nearly $700 billion on repurchasing their own stock so far this year, according to research from TrimTabs. Corporations set a record in Q2, announcing $433 billion worth of buybacks — nearly doubling the previous record, which was set in Q1. 
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Post by twodogs » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:41 pm

When Fuyao Glass Industry Group considered building its first U.S. manufacturing site in 2013, the Chinese auto supplier concluded it would not be able to build a greenfield site and scale up as quickly as it had done in Russia and China. Instead, the company opted to tailor its manufacturing operations into an existing site using General Motors' former assembly plant in Moraine, Ohio, near Dayton.

The supplier already is growing in the new space. Fuyao used only part of the massive GM factory at first, about 1.4 million square feet. It has since expanded to nearly 2.1 million square feet. Tanner added that Fuyao employs more than 2,000 people in Moraine and has invested $700 million in the site to date.
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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by simon_in_exile » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:08 pm

2013? Thank Obama for that 💸⛪️🙏🏾
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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by twodogs » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:27 pm

simon_in_exile wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:08 pm
2013? Thank Obama for that 💸⛪️🙏🏾
Thanks Obama.

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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by simon_in_exile » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:42 pm

Thanks Vlad.
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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by eric84 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:13 pm

simon_in_exile wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:08 pm
2013? Thank Obama for that 💸⛪️🙏🏾
2dogs is very very dumb.
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Re: What if Trump Really is Making America Great Again?

Post by twodogs » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:42 pm

eric84 wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:13 pm
simon_in_exile wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:08 pm
2013? Thank Obama for that 💸⛪️🙏🏾
2dogs is very very dumb.
Juche!!!
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