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Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby CatScanMan » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:40 pm

So I was in Mammas and Pappas yesterday and went over to the pram area. Quite a few prams cost in excess of £1k! Now, I've never given it any thought but if I had I would have thought prams topped out at about £250.

Don't get me wrong, these prams were nice. Baby containers looked solid and warm, general build quality looked excellent. I'm sure you could get your newborn to the Everest Base Station in one of them but £1K?

For that kind of money you can get a second hand car in the UK. With a bit of luck and TLC that same car will get you from A to B for a couple of years.

So why are prams so expensive? Why is baby stuff in general so expensive? Stupid.

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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby GLimpet » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:45 pm

Because the market's full of mugs. Especially for first baby.

Now that people mostly only have one or two kids and families are dispersed, there's a whole body of experience and commonsense that has withered away.

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Postby mad hatter » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:45 pm

because they can get away with it
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Postby CatScanMan » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:54 pm

Good points

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Postby mad hatter » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:04 pm

buy second hand. they are mostly in excellent condition and baby doesn't care
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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby Flora » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:18 pm

You're going to be a father?

Do you want my 4 wheeled city jogger for £130? All accessories like cosy toes, rain cover, buggy bar etc, looks like new other than wheels which have some wear (not so you'd need new ones tho). suitable from birth to 3+ years.

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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby muthafunky » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:29 pm

Are you having a kid?? Spill!

My experience has been there is a huge range of prices in baby stuff and if you're willing to buy used you can get stuff pretty cheap, but yeah there is pricey stuff out there too. We have gotten a lot of hand me down stuff so haven't felt as bad spending a bit more on some things. The crib, dresser/ changing table, stroller, car seat, diaper bag are things that come to mind that we bought new that seemed expensive.

I think part of it is some of this stuff is targeted at women and price points seem to be higher when that's the case. Prices for women's clothes, shoes, bags, etc always seem eye popping. Maybe that's just where my wife shops.

This is the stroller we have, looks like it was $500.

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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby Vodd » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:47 pm

Yeah always second hand or extended family / circle of friends for 80% of all stuff for first two years. Very little point buying brand new anything as it's outgrown within months. The only thing I've never scrimped on is car seats. Always use solid cardboard boxes.

GLimpet wrote:Now that people mostly only have one or two kids and families are dispersed, there's a whole body of experience and commonsense that has withered away.


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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby Chihiro » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:49 pm

Do you need a Moses Basket?

Are you in the London area?

C-1.9 has long since outgrown hers.

You are welcome to it, if you'd like... it comes with a stand.

I also have a huge lot of girls 0-3, 3-6 month clothes.
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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby GLimpet » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:09 pm

You know you don't want anything less than this:


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Postby Chip_Oatley » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:17 pm

Aussie friend here said "pram" in relation to the stroller, and the Yank mommies were like, "prawn? You're putting her in the prawn?"

So anyway she looked up the origin of "pram" and it's for "perambulator" -- so we decided it should be "peram" not "pram." OK.

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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby nycfellow » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:48 pm

A few years back, the Dutch made Bugaboo strollers were all the rage here: they are now over $1,000, but eventually people realized that you can't even get one of those things in the trunk of a cab. They were definitely a status good - there were neighborhoods where, for a couple years, you basically wouldn't see any other strollers. So, basically the really expensive ones are for showing off. And it's a particular kind of showing off - the "I will spend anything for my baby, my precious baby!" Anyway, it may make sense to get a really decent stroller, especially if you're intending to have more than one kid, because it's going to get a lot of use. We paid maybe $350 for ours. If I were in England, I can't imagine why I'd get anything other than a MacLaren. As it turned out, we ended up using various baby-carrying devices far more than our stroller, because they are more practical in the city.

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Postby GLimpet » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:57 pm

Can't go wrong with a McLaren.

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Postby rider5 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:14 pm

You're going to take on Everest. Good to hear.

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Postby Chip_Oatley » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:16 pm

Lmao Glimpet

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Postby CatScanMan » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:44 pm

Thanks for the offers. No, not about to become a father as far as I know.

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Postby eric84 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:53 am

Such a ridiculous waste of money. New parents are such suckers.
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Postby dBrother » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:02 am

OP, I'm sure EBay will be your freind in finding a top quality only used once, well for one sprog, pram for 1/10th the price..
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Postby Nines » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:21 am

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Postby eric84 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:45 am

dBrother wrote:OP, I'm sure EBay will be your freind in finding a top quality only used once, well for one sprog, pram for 1/10th the price..


Any garage sale will have kids stuff
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Postby guruwil » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:46 am

You don't need to go the top of the market but it is worth buying quality as most of it should last you at least two kids if that's the plan. Focus on practicality and durability, take someone along who has baby experience who can spot useless gimmicks and design flaws and tell how it will work in practice.
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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby Klara » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:11 am

The thing is, new parents think everything is superimportant and will have a lasting effect on their kids. Which, if you have a healthy child, is obviously total bullshit. You need the big pram for less than a year. Think about that. Then you'll want a €50 ultra light thing you can more or less fit in your pocket.
So what Eric said. We're terrible suckers.

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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby Flora » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:49 pm

I carried my child until about two months ago - we bought a 21 quid buggy off eBay at that point. City jogger was a present, but was also second hand off eBay. Buggies are a lot of a pain.

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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby Lime_Pickle » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:07 pm

Thanks for the offers. No, not about to become a father as far as I know.


Are you hanging around the pram section hoping to pick up yummy mummies?
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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby Klara » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:16 pm

Oh I seriously doubt it. We know how CatScan feels about single mothers.

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Postby GLimpet » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:25 pm

Nines wrote:Rubber baby buggy bumpers
Rubbr bby buggy bumprs

Easy for you to say.

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Postby Steve_in_Exile » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:11 pm

eric84 wrote:Such a ridiculous waste of money. New parents are such suckers

And fully exploited by the Parenting Industrial Complex.

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Postby muthafunky » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:22 pm

I spent $3k on a computer to play video games. $500 on a stroller we use every day seems like a bargain in comparison.

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Postby eric84 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:42 pm

And a 200 dollar diaper bag is practically theft! You're the best consumer ever, Mutha.
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Postby Klara » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:49 pm

Flora wrote:I carried my child until about two months ago - we bought a 21 quid buggy off eBay at that point. City jogger was a present, but was also second hand off eBay. Buggies are a lot of a pain.

I had two slings and I used them all the time for ages.
But I didn't know I would, obviously, which is why I also had a brand new pram. It wasn't a super expensive one, but it wasn't cheap either. It was a total waste of money.
I used the €50 buggy I bought later almost daily.

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Postby Flora » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:06 pm

I had a REALLY expensive changing bag. The most money I've ever spent on a bag. I sold it for £10 less than I bought it for.

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Postby Stephen_Dedalus » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:31 pm

CatScanMan wrote:Thanks for the offers. No, not about to become a father as far as I know.


So, basically, you were mooching about in the kids section.

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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby nycfellow » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:50 pm

I had two slings and I used them all the time for ages.

I became an expert on baby carrying technology. We owned: 3 ring-slings (one was a replacement, and we needed 2 at a time, because my wife is much smaller than I am and those things are a pain to adjust) - the little one hated these, so we never used them with her
Baby Bjorn (sport model) - this sucker got a huge amount of use. We also subsequently loaned it out for at least 2 more babies and finally gave it away - it was still working.
Some crazy hip carrier - I could never use it, but my wife liked it better than the Bjorn when it was hot outside.
Ergo - these guys are great for bigger children, but lousy for little babies.
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Postby Klara » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:09 pm

I had two New Native Baby Carriers. I ordered them from the States because I couldn't find one that was good enough for my precious baby in Europe. See what I mean?
And don't get me started on our Deuter baby hiking backpack. It cost a freakin' fortune.

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I downed my baby in the bathtub and spent the money on Holiday

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....breeders.....humph......
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Postby jessica_fletcher » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:49 pm

I bought Ted an orthopedic memory foam bed.

He has slept in the middle of my kingsize bed from the day he arrived.
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I bet that's not the only furry thing in the middle of your king sized bed.


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Postby leela » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:08 pm

My parents bought us the cot, my in-laws bought the buggy. Or t'other way around.
That buggy got so much use. It wasn't the cheapest, but certainly not at the expensive end either. I loved it. It even had enough room on the tray underneath, to put a supermarket basket.
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Postby Stephen_Dedalus » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:12 pm

I don't remember seeing kids in Ireland in prams in Ireland.
They just sort of crawled about, or rode on the back of a pig.
There definitely wasn't this car seat nonsense.
My aunt would fit all 9 kids in the one car, my uncle and me!

The irony is now, of course, whenever they are all together at the big house now, they have to park all over the place as there is 10+ blacked out windowed SUVs.

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Postby leela » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:16 pm

Ha! I remember my FIL thinking we were cruel, strapping our kids into car seats. Even seat belts he regarded as an infliction too far. He kept telling us how he used to fill the car with his kids and their cousins and drive them to Poland, sitting on each others' knees in the back. Which was true.
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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby jessica_fletcher » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:20 pm

My 13year old cousin drove us all home one night after a spanish family pissup.

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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby Stephen_Dedalus » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:28 pm

The Irish are like the Finns, great rally drivers.

One lane back country lanes at 60mph
Another car!
Up in the ditch....and continue.

Driving to Poland with someone on your lap has to be torture. I would prefer a pudding bottom over a bony arse

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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby EMG » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:29 pm

I wonder what it costs them to actually produce these thousand pound baby strollers. Probably about $50 right?

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Re: Pricey Pram Escalation!

Postby Stephen_Dedalus » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:05 am

As for hand me downs, bags of mine went over the water.

Two times really took the cake.

Arriving by my lonesome one day, opening the door, my blue bomber jacket on the floor with a footprint on it.

Going out picking spuds and seeing my female cousin wearing my Smiths 'Queen is Dead' t-shirt

She later won 6 All Irelands in camogie and football, with record All Star placings.

So, i was right to cut her some slack.

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