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Napolitano as Homeland Security Secretary?

Postby korgy » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:13 pm

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Postby blueeyes_austin » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:17 pm

I like Napolitano, thought she would have made a good Veep choice.

That said, Homeland Security for her is a pure political payment. My only concern is that she was very illegal immigrant friendly as gov of Arizona.
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Postby tph24601 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:22 pm

well, if she takes the HLS job, I guess McCain's Senate job is safe if/when he runs for re-election in 2010....

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Postby Lost Soul » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:27 pm

blueeyes_austin wrote:I like Napolitano, thought she would have made a good Veep choice.

That said, Homeland Security for her is a pure political payment. My only concern is that she was very illegal immigrant friendly as gov of Arizona.

Indeed.

But the peasants of Arizona have spoken with several referendums that bitch slapped that clueless ho.

That liberal lesbian must feel that it is time to fuck up the national immigration policy as bad as she did to Arizona.

Bravo, Obamidiots.
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Postby tph24601 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:30 pm

....it is time to fuck up the national immigration policy

yes, the current national immigration policy is working so well, the Obamidiots willl only fuck that up once they take over

funny stuff.....

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Postby blueeyes_austin » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:32 pm

tph24601 wrote:
....it is time to fuck up the national immigration policy

yes, the current national immigration policy is working so well, the Obamidiots willl only fuck that up once they take over

funny stuff.....


I assure you it can get worse than it is right now.
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Postby Lost Soul » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:42 pm

tph24601 wrote:
....it is time to fuck up the national immigration policy

yes, the current national immigration policy is working so well, the Obamidiots willl only fuck that up once they take over

funny stuff.....

Nice edit, clown.

BTW, why do you care about Mexicans swarming the border states?
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Postby korgy » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:49 pm

the idea that the issues of domestic terrorism and immigration are rolled into one office seems a little odd to me.

just as it does that FEMA is part of the same organization.
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Postby tph24601 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:49 pm

blueeyes_austin wrote:I assure you it can get worse than it is right now.

sure, things can get worse, just as things can get better

of course having INS, Custom, and FBI putting more focus on terrorism instead of the other areas in the last 7 years didn't exactly help the illegal immigration enforcement

immigration reform bill, which party was against that one? but I guess nothing stops LostSoul from a good ranting...

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Postby korgy » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:55 pm

tph24601 wrote:
blueeyes_austin wrote:I assure you it can get worse than it is right now.

sure, things can get worse, just as things can get better


this is BEA being extremely careful these days. one can think "things will get worse when Obama takes office" and write "things can get worse".

the "i assure you" part is the giveaway.
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Postby Lost Soul » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:03 pm

BTW, why do you care about Mexicans swarming the border states?

No answer yet from the "foreigner" or the korky.
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Postby korgy » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:05 pm

did i say i cared about Mexicans swarming the border states?
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Postby Lost Soul » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:15 pm

korgy wrote:did i say i cared about Mexicans swarming the border states?

Yes you did.

You said that New York and New Jersey and New England should send a few billion down south to finance the health care of illegal aliens.
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Postby tph24601 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:15 pm

Mexicans have been swarming the border states way before she became governor of Arizona. Funny that Mexicans are also swarming California and Texas too, two other border states currently with GOP governors.

But she is the one who is fucking up the immigration policy.
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Postby korgy » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:18 pm

Lost Soul wrote:
korgy wrote:did i say i cared about Mexicans swarming the border states?

Yes you did.

You said that New York and New Jersey and New England should send a few billion down south to finance the health care of illegal aliens.


um, nope, not me.
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Postby judik » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:32 pm

LS - you frequently,if not always,makes slurs about Napolitano's sexuality when discussing her
Why?
Incompetent or not her sexuality isn't the cause and it should not be an issue
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Postby eric84 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:33 pm

you frequently,if not always,makes slurs about Napolitano's sexuality when discussing her


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Postby Scott_Baio » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:49 pm

BTW, why do you care about Mexicans swarming the border states?


Why would tph care about illegal Mexican immigrants cloggin up the system?

He lives in Ireland.
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Postby Lost Soul » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:09 pm

Scott_Baio wrote:
BTW, why do you care about Mexicans swarming the border states?


Why would tph care about illegal Mexican immigrants cloggin up the system?

He lives in Ireland.

I guess I was too subtle.
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Postby tph24601 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:15 pm

Scott_Baio wrote:
BTW, why do you care about Mexicans swarming the border states?


Why would tph care about illegal Mexican immigrants cloggin up the system?

He lives in Ireland.

hmmm, so all americans living outside the US don't care about US domestic issues, include US diplomats and soldiers

got it

of course that doesn't prevent guys like scotty and lostsoul shooting their mouth off about issues outside US, go figure....

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Postby Scott_Baio » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:21 pm

I'm just saying that you really don't have much of an idea on how it really is in places that have a lot of illegal immigrants in the area.

And what a drain it is. And how these people are jacking social security numbers left and right trying to commit fraud.

Sitting all the way in Ireland I would think it would be pretty hard to know what's going on.
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Postby Lost Soul » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:24 pm

of course that doesn't prevent guys like scotty and lostsoul shooting their mouth off about issues outside US, go figure....

I think one million Nigerians are just what Ireland needs. Sure they can't read, and they have no intention to learn.

To oppose them would be racist. Asshole.
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Postby Scott_Baio » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:26 pm

The best part is when I run a credit report for an illegal and the SS# belongs to a dead guy.

Can I report this chap to the local authorities to have him sent back to Mexico for trying to commit fraud?

Of course not. That would be racist.
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Postby eric84 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:35 pm

Hey, wouldn't it be funny if one of those illegal workers you used to employ walked into your dealership?
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Postby judik » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:40 pm

Judik- Why do you care if I call the governor of Arizona a lezbo?

Why do you feel the need to call her that among other things?
I recall the word"dyke" being used
How is that pertinent to the way she performs her duties?
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Postby Scott_Baio » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:56 pm

Hey...wouldn't it be funny if eric was working in the private sector and had to rely on his wit and ability to survive?

Yeah...hilarious idea.
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Postby korgy » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:21 pm

Scott_Baio wrote:The best part is when I run a credit report for an illegal and the SS# belongs to a dead guy.

Can I report this chap to the local authorities to have him sent back to Mexico for trying to commit fraud?

Of course not. That would be racist.


really? i totally disagree.

if someone comes to you using a fake SS#, not only should you report him, you have a societal obligation to do so. fraud is fraud, and i don't want some lying crook destroying our Social Security system.

that's my liberal point of view.

oh wait -- on second thought, you probably want the sale, and don't want to scare his friends away. right.
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Postby tph24601 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:49 pm

Scott_Baio wrote:I'm just saying that you really don't have much of an idea on how it really is in places that have a lot of illegal immigrants in the area.

And what a drain it is. And how these people are jacking social security numbers left and right trying to commit fraud.

Sitting all the way in Ireland I would think it would be pretty hard to know what's going on.

yeah, it's not like I lived in New York and California for 20 years or anything......

sitting all the way in some car dealership in US never prevented you from going off ranting about europe or iraq or afganistan or israel or china, but hey, that's scotty logic for you....

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Postby q5q » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:05 am

napolitano may get the vote for 'cabinet secretary i'd most like to have some beers with'. she sounds like she'd be fun.
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Postby crzypt » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:45 am

Lost Soul wrote:You said that New York and New Jersey and New England should send a few billion down south to finance the health care of illegal aliens.


Not too damned likely

New York, New Jersey, and New England are already subsidising the South in a big way - we pay out far more in Federal tax $ than we get back from Washington

Korgy has brought this up a few times and so have I

Besides, NY and NJ are already pretty well supplied with illegal aliens, as any resident of same could tell you.

Ours are a lot more 'diverse' though. Wouldn't surprise me at all if the Irish and Haitian illegals outnumbered the Mexicans 8)
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Postby Godjira » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:07 am

the illegal aliens in NJ create more wealth than they take away

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Postby rider5 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:15 am

blueeyes_austin wrote:
tph24601 wrote:
....it is time to fuck up the national immigration policy

yes, the current national immigration policy is working so well, the Obamidiots willl only fuck that up once they take over

funny stuff.....


I assure you it can get worse than it is right now.


Amnesty? It's coming. At this point where immigration issues have been back burnered to the point of ridiculousness, it's the only solution.

Hopefully the coming admin will be able to weasel some concessions from the Mex gov't in return for saving their ass.

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Postby rider5 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:27 am

Godjira wrote:the illegal aliens in NJ create more wealth than they take away


How do you know?

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Postby Godjira » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:45 am

rider5 wrote:
Godjira wrote:the illegal aliens in NJ create more wealth than they take away


How do you know?


because most illegal immigrants I have known have worked like slaves for less than the minimum wage.

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Postby rider5 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:48 am

Yeah? So? How does that back up your original claim?

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Postby Godjira » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:51 am

that's how I'm backing it, by what I have experienced and seen. What's better than that? Some skewed stat?

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Postby rider5 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:59 am

ok. Man on the street says illegal immigration is a net plus.

I suppose that's better than flipping a coin to set policy.

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Postby Godjira » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:06 am

last I checked, I don't set policy.

But, honestly- it's what I believe. I did try to find some stats to back up what I said, but everything seems to come from sites that hare highly opinionated and skewing the data for that opinion.

I'll try to find something, though.

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Postby Scott_Baio » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:06 am

h wait -- on second thought, you probably want the sale, and don't want to scare his friends away. right.


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Postby rider5 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:23 am

Scott_Baio wrote:The best part is when I run a credit report for an illegal and the SS# belongs to a dead guy.

Can I report this chap to the local authorities to have him sent back to Mexico for trying to commit fraud?

Of course not. That would be racist.


It wouldn't be racist, but it would be useless.

Local authorities don't give a fuck about low grade Federal matters like immigration, which they know that if they pursued it would result in fuckall.

The Feds have no intention of enforcing current immigration laws. They don't in Arizona, they damn sure don't in Illinois.

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Postby korgy » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:54 pm

crzypt wrote:New York, New Jersey, and New England are already subsidising the South in a big way - we pay out far more in Federal tax $ than we get back from Washington

Korgy has brought this up a few times and so have I


true -- well, i said we are putting in way more than we get back

korgy wrote:if someone comes to you using a fake SS#, not only should you report him, you have a societal obligation to do so. fraud is fraud, and i don't want some lying crook destroying our Social Security system.

that's my liberal point of view.


Scotttie, you didn't respond to this part of my post. do you agree?
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Postby StaunchLiberal » Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:40 am

It will be ironic that a woman who is rumored to be gay (Janet Napolitano) will be in charge of the nation's security. Homophobes have always argued that gays are a great threat to security but now President Obama will prove once and for all how stupid homophobes are.
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Postby Right_Turn » Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:22 am

Janet Reno's less attractive sister.

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Postby leelee » Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:15 am

the economy's getting so suckassed that soon all the illegals will be heading back home for better pay. :roll:

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Postby Disco_Stu » Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:26 pm

StaunchLiberal wrote:It will be ironic that a woman who is rumored to be gay (Janet Napolitano) will be in charge of the nation's security. Homophobes have always argued that gays are a great threat to security but now President Obama will prove once and for all how stupid homophobes are.


True. But they will still mock her for being unfeminine, as you can see above.

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Postby tph24601 » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:12 pm

Right_Turn wrote:Janet Reno's less attractive sister.

so now Sarah Palin is not around, we can go back to judge women solely based on their looks now?

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